REM: Classic or dud?

And "Driver 8" is a new song so...

sometime in 1984, although can't find set list that matches the sequencing

Could be a compilation of a couple of broadcasts

Yep

Possibly this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvhQqQ-AYgI

A recording of the show was broadcast nationally on US radio in late ‘84 or early ‘85.

I’ve been down in a massive live rem hole since the last time this thread was bumped btw

I didn’t mention before that I actually saw them in 86 which is the year I keep listening obsessively to.

Camper Van Beethoven was opening and I was there for CVB. I was too cool for REM by this point - had gotten LRP and felt it was a huge letdown. I barely even paid attention to REM’s set. What a dumb little pissant!

haha, no i think some things just take time! curious though, do you remember what put you off LRP when it came out?

Probably just standard discomfort with the more straight ahead rock sound. Honestly more than anything it was probably the fact that i had fables and murmur on cassette and LRP on LP and hadn’t made a tape of it yet, so I hadn’t listened to it 100x like the other two.

IDK I went through the same thing with Huskers on Warehouse and later CVB with key lime pie - I was not one for the art that conceals art at that stage in my life. If a band got less weird that was bad.

xxxp That Seattle show has a different set list from this bootleg – but, yeah, the track order could be swapped around (or it could be pulled from various shows).

Interesting that "Hyena" dates this far back...

LRP is often my favorite R.E.M.

(I just randomly compared the two versions of "Boxcars" across this boot and that show, and they ain't the same)

“Harborcoat” is still my jam.

Interesting that "Hyena" dates this far back...

They apparently had a bunch of songs that they played live for years before they recorded them. They were playing “Just A Touch” as early as ‘83.

I had never heard of that "Skank" number which closes the Seattle (YouTube) set... apparently it was the band's "all-purpose jam"?

Anyway, this German "Pale Blue Eyes" boot – whatever the show is – is a really good recording & performance. (And yeah, the "Harborcoat" at the end is terrific.)

The chords of that song have always felt like tumbling water to me; it's such a special sound.

Yeah, good description.

Just heard "Oh My Heart" for the first time, after it closed episode 3 of The Bear, and now hearing Collapse Into Now for the first time. Had no idea this was good!

I guess that bootleg discussed above has disappeared…

xpost Ha, me too, from "The Bear." I've never heard that album, so had never heard that song, but it's loooooovely.

Yeah, "Oh My Heart" is good. After the band broke up, I decided to revisit all of the post-Berry albums to give them another chance, and that track was one of the standouts. I had all ten Berry-era albums and I ended up liking Up enough to get it, but otherwise, I made this compilation to fill out the rest of my collection:

The Best Of R.E.M.
1998-2011

1 Lotus 04:31
2 At My Most Beautiful [radio mix] 03:33
3 Daysleeper [single edit] 03:31
4 The Great Beyond 05:07
5 I've Been High 03:26
6 All The Way To Reno (You're Gonna Be A Star) 04:43
7 Imitation Of Life 03:56
8 All The Right Friends 02:48
9 Bad Day 04:07
10 Leaving New York 04:49
11 Electron Blue 04:12
12 Living Well Is The Best Revenge 03:11
13 Man-Sized Wreath 02:33
14 Supernatural Superserious 03:23
15 Hollow Man 02:39
16 Houston 02:05
17 Discoverer 03:31
18 Alligator_Aviator_Autopilot_Antimatter 02:45
19 Überlin 04:14
20 Oh My Heart 03:20
21 It Happened Today 03:48
22 We All Go Back To Where We Belong 03:35

Up and "Imitation of Life" are pretty much the only post-Berry things I will listen to. Sorry I am basic

I’ve Been High is really beautiful imho

I'll defend the first three Up tracks.

er, Us.

Reveal!

Mine world be:

1. Hope
2. Why Not Smile (Demo)
3. Daysleeper
4. Falls to Climb
5. The Lifting
6. I've Been High
7. Electron Blue
8. Living Well is the Best Revenge
9. Horse to Water
10. I'm Gonna DJ
11. Every Day is Yours To Win
12. Blue
13. A Month of Saturdays
14. Bad Day
15. A loop of the "Sing Along" bit from "Diminished" that lasts thirty minutes

Falls to Climb and Diminished, yes.

Isn't Bad Day originally from the LRP era, and subsequently resurrected? I will leave it to purists to debate whether it counts as an 80s track or an 00s track

yeah, it's a draft version of It's The End of the World.

Really disappointed that the new Chronic Town 40th anniversary reissue doesn't have anything at all in terms of demos or live stuff.

it does seem kind of strange, give the kitchen-sink approach to (imo) much-lesser R.E.M. anniversaries ... I feel like a pre-Murmur box set of some kind could be really good.

Yeah I would be totally into that box set!

Totally -- I don't know whether any of these songs exist outside live recordings, but stuff like "Wait", "Body Count," ... love it, raw energy

"Bad Day"is so much more than a draft version of EotW, it's its own song parts of which were repurposed -- that and "Romance" are the two songs from the era so good it's shocking they weren't on a real album

oops I forgot we were supposed to be talking about post-Berry, in which case I'll stick up for Discoverer (which I just nommed for the 2010 tracks poll, go vote!)

sorry to derail!

The latter-day era has some compassionate dirges that haven't been mentioned:

Parakeet
Boy in the Well
High Speed Train

and other great up-tempo songs:

Walk Unafraid
Accelerate
All the Best

Chronic Town strikes me as one of the few EPs that doesn't just seem like half an album; five songs is just enough in that style for them to move on to the more eclectic Murmur (not to excuse re-releasing it with no extras).

For up-tempo, I like "Mine Smell Like Honey" too, it's got one of REM's better choruses from the last few records

Parakeet is great, I should've remembered that one

I just re-listened to The Lifting, and it kinda sounds awful out of anything except a crisp 1990s CD player

Am I the only one that reads that song title as Stipe referring to his farts?

farts or feet

We're talking about "The Lifting", right?

"The Lifting" ranks with "Begin the Begin" and "Radio Free Europe" among my favorite R.E.M. openers.

So is "Me in Honey" about Stipe in a roomful of his own farts then?

"That's a fart, that's a fart of meeee!"

I can't remember where I saw this, but somewhere out there (probably on a blog) an R.E.M. fan wrote about an awkward encounter with Stipe in the mid-'80s where they were waiting in line for something and laughed to a friend how the guy next to them smelled like pee. To their surprise, it was Michael Stipe, who then berated them for saying that.

"That's a fart, that's a fart of meeee!"

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kudos

I went looking for it, and found several other stories about how Stipe smells bad. I didn't realize that was a thing with him.

Anyway, here's the anecdote, buried in an old thread in a film-related forum:

As a native Athenian, I've had plenty of run-ins w/the members over the years (I worked in a Kroger that literally everybody shopped at, so it was bound to happen from time to time)...

Stipe is known around town for not bathing too regularly. Once in college, I was with my roommate at Jackson St. Books, and the guy ahead of us reeked as if he hadn't bathed in a week, and my roomie turned to me and whispered "That guy smells like pee." "That guy" apparently heard, because he turned around and surprise!--it was Michael Stipe, demanding to know why she'd said that.

I worked in a record store in Boulder, Colorado back in the 80s. Once, a couple came in who I thought were probably homeless (the store was on the outdoor mall downtown, there were a lot of unhoused people who ended up there esp. in the summer), or possibly just traveling people. Only after they left did I realize it was Michael Stipe and Natalie Merchant, who were in town to perform that night.

“beat a drum” is the best song on reveal

otm, always loved that one

I owned the album and can remember almost nothing about it.