quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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(sung to the tune of "Fell in Love with a Girl")

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 November 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

Or "Never Been In A Riot."

nickn, Monday, 22 November 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

"In this Ohio diner, "fete" still means Boba, but they don't think a Columbia student should turn it down just to stay home and read."

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

i’ve been to amesthyste but i’ve never been to me

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

lol

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 November 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

We fact-checked President Biden's claim during the #SOTU about strong U.S. job growth.

Follow our live analysis: https://t.co/wmEgwIYSOi pic.twitter.com/HwXEcia7IL

— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 2, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:17 (two years ago) link

hahaha you have got to be kidding

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:20 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, clearly leaving out the great job boom of 1843

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 12:49 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Experts say a new generation of less destructive nuclear arms may make the prospect of a nuclear strike less unthinkable than it once was. https://t.co/hcBaMzI8gc

— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 22, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 04:20 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

meet the new executive editor of the new york times

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQuZGRIXwAA_W9f?format=jpg&name=medium

Kahn is the eldest child of Dorothy Davidson and Leo Kahn (1916–2011), founder of the Purity Supreme supermarket chain in New England and co-founder of the global office supply chain Staples.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link

he looks like a staple

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link

very strong "I am a real human doing real human things" energy

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link

Look, I have taken off my bespoke suit coat and am relaxing on my antique oriental carpet in only my silk shirt and $500 necktie.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

“just a little more seething hatred for the camera joe… that’s it”

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 22:39 (two years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/20/magazine/van-life-dwelling.html

I truly don’t understand this article on several levels - reads like a series of dull emails from a whiny person who got paid to drive around for a week

calstars, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

For the most part, I don’t remember things.

I remember when Caity Weaver could write.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

Paywalled. That sounds like a premise for an article that could be entertaining enough to read if done well, although not by someone who did it for a mere week.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

Paywalled.

huh how’d this get here

Toxoplasmosis Jones (cat), Thursday, 21 April 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

wtf. i thought auto dealership owners were working class pic.twitter.com/cGhyMW5Oew

— jonathan financial-crime (@xoayquanh) May 15, 2022

A lot of people hammering me for having a PhD in economics and knowing nothing about how the economy works: I plead guilty. I got a PhD in economics largely because I loved Freakonomics & wanted to study the data of sports & random things about people.

— Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (@SethS_D) May 15, 2022

Thinking about how shocked people are that I didn't know about auto dealerships & beverage distribution as paths to get rich. Proves value of data. We ALL have misleading view of the world from unrepresentative stories; rich people in my town were athletes, actors, & rap stars.

— Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (@SethS_D) May 16, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 16 May 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

rich people own

jmm, Monday, 16 May 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

pwn3d

calstars, Monday, 16 May 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Thinking about how shocked people are that I didn't know about auto dealerships & beverage distribution as paths to get rich. Proves value of data. We ALL have misleading view of the world from unrepresentative stories; rich people in my town were athletes, actors, & rap stars.

Translation: I unwittingly revealed how stupid I am about the world I live in, but in my defense, you're stupid, too, and ugly, so there.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

Can’t wait for his work diving in to the economic realities of our big beautiful boaters.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 16 May 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

I'll cop to the fact that I didn't know people who owned car dealerships made so much more money than doctors or lawyers, I thought those were all the same general type of rich people

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

“rich ppl i notice/know about” vs “irl rich ppl” are two different things & the ppl on the first ie your own may not even be ~on~ the second irl list

idk its just that arrogance of thinking that what you personally know is the sum of knowledge

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

also re auto dealers, i think i just knew this from watching Friday Night Lights, Buddy owned dealerships & was like the richest guy in town lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

yeah well I'm a real American who doesn't watch prestige dramas

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

Friday Nights Lights is Texas football, son. Aint nothin presige about it (spits)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

I remember realizing this when Kid Rock was at the peak of pretending he was some kind of Detroit-era white-trash-made-good hero and it came out that his father owned a string of car dealerships all over Michigan and he grew up in a house the size of your average art museum.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

I thought he was a cowboy

calstars, Monday, 16 May 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link

he is neither a kid nor does he rock, talk amongst yourselves

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't think 'car dealers' in general but the size of businesses - if you're employing hundreds of people in any context, I would assume you're pulling in a lot of income.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

car dealerships are an enormous racket, and the dealers are rich and powerful enough in local and state politics to keep it that way

mookieproof, Monday, 16 May 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

A "new car dealership" is at a completely different level than owning a "used car lot". The dealership is a big business backed by a global multi-national business, while the latter might be scaled down to about the equivalent of owning a junk antique shop.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

The economics of new car dealerships are bizarre and opaque - almost no profit on actually selling a car (despite the risk tied to having a $50k fragile piece of machinery sitting on an open lot), all tied into whatever side deals they can wrangle on financing kickbacks and extended warranties and $500 bumper film and shit.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

The economics of new car dealerships are bizarre and opaque - almost no profit on actually selling a car (despite the risk tied to having a $50k fragile piece of machinery sitting on an open lot), all tied into whatever side deals they can wrangle on financing kickbacks and extended warranties and $500 bumper film and shit.


You also forget the absolute morons like my parents who only take their car to the dealer mechanics for repairs because…oh wait, there’s no actual reason for it, they’re just idiots.

(I love my parents but this sort of shit drives me up a wall! )

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

yeah well I'm a real American who doesn't watch prestige dramas

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, May 16, 2022 2:23 PM (one hour ago)

what about Arthur?

rob, Monday, 16 May 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

it's funny this guy is just now discovering capital is a thing, but how many people are we talking about here who own the kind of franchised car dealership that gives the owner an income of >1.6m? that's the salary of a mid-level engineering manager at facebook and google.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

where do those mid-level engineering managers live, and what's the cost of living there? (and how many of them are there?)

mookieproof, Monday, 16 May 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

A couple of thousand dealership (income-)millionaires, I'd guess - Ford has 3000 dealers, Chevy presumably similar, on down the list. But then you start to add in the people who own a dozen 7-11 franchises and Arby's franchises and et al..

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 16 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

i think there are more "auto groups" that are partnerships not just a guy

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 16 May 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

welp

towards fungal computer (harbl), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

iirc google USA headcount is 30k. i would guess there are 1000 people at google earning over 1m. maybe the same again at facebook, apple, and microsoft, amazon. 500 each at netflix, twitter, airbnb, snap, etc. 70% in california, 10% in seattle, 20% in nyc.

pretty soon you're talking about real money.

i guess my point is that 1) granted, this guy is an idiot for not knowing that small business owners are very rich 2) i'm not sure if people realize (are sufficiently angry about?) how much big tech people with ~10 years of experience earn from their regular income (i.e. not once in a lifetime startup IPO stuff, just their W2 income).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

I know this but I also lived in the Bay Area from 2008-2017

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

https://smile.amazon.com/Millionaire-Next-Door-Surprising-Americas/dp/1589795474 is in many ways a vile text, full of frugality gospel, but it's also a book the baby nate silver upthread should read.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

this was the article (sorry, it's the atlantic) bandied about in the wake of yesterday's quiddities/agonies (i have not read it yet, but then i also did not publish a half-assed op-ed in the nyt about its subject)

American Gentry

The jet-setting cosmopolitans of popular imagination exist, but they are far outnumbered by a less exalted and less discussed elite group, one that sits at the pinnacle of America’s local hierarchies.

mookieproof, Monday, 16 May 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

Patrick wyman?!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

Another work in this genre (on my reading list but can’t vouch for it) https://newrepublic.com/article/163818/99-percent-upholds-inequality-book-review

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link


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