Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting; 2019 Vlad Guerrero Jr/Blue Jays thread

If they had picked both a right-handed and a left-handed starter, as these lists sometimes do, I think Jimmy Key's the lefty, right? Am I forgetting someone obvious? For manager, it has to be Cito, controversies and all--unless you think it should be Bobby Cox. Mascot, I'll take Munenori over B.J. Birdy.

David Wells...Would have to compare their time with the Jays, but my intuition is that Key was better.

I think Key for sure over Wells. Well’s best years were elsewhere and was a reliever for a while here. Key was solid for a long time and I think went kind of unnoticed in Stiebs shadow.

Clear advantage Key:

Key - 9 years, 3.42 ERA, 1.196 WHIP, 122 ERA+, 2.34 K/BB, 3.70 FIP, 29.7 bWAR
Wells - 8 years, 4.06 ERA, 1.275 WHIP, 110 ERA+, 2.67 K/BB, 3.84 FIP, 15.0 bWAR

Better K/BB for Wells, nothing else.

I still remember Wells best as the dude who threw the ball into left field because he didn’t want to get taken out of the game.

Didn't he have the opposite controversy too, where Cito left him in to get absolutely shelled one game?

Aug. 20, 1992: 4.1 IP, 13 earned runs.

https://tht.fangraphs.com/tht-live/20th-anniversary-david-wells-hung-out-to-dry/

Cito was right to do it!

He’s no longer a Jay - but Stroman continues to tweet stroman things.

And continues.

The source is me. https://t.co/ZGVvuRDV6h

— Marcus Stroman (@STR0) November 27, 2021

Seems to have removed the above tweet. Agent to Stroman: "Shut up!"

well now he's in trouble for liking a tweet where a reporter got called a "wop"
this dude literally cannot stop embarrassing himself online. this has to be having a serious impact on incoming offers at this point.

the best RHP in jays history is…roger clemens

*ducks*

If you think of peak as two years, unquestionably--those were two of the greatest seasons by any post-war pitcher anywhere. Obviously the guy was thinking more in terms of players who represent the franchise, though, and Clemens probably had one eye on the Yankees the minute he arrived here.

(The guy who gets lost in the shuffle for the Jays is Carter. Overrated, for sure, and you can't put him ahead of Bautista, but still crucial to Jays' history, beyond even the big HR.)

Is there anybody else ever who did what Clemens did with the Jays--stay for one or two seasons only, both epic (11.9/8.1 bWAR...I guess the second wasn't quite as epic), then move on? There must be.

Last thing, looking over his stats: to show just how much K/BB ratio has been cheapened the past few years, Clemens lifetime ratio is 2.96 (Maddux and Johnson are over 3.00; Pedro is over 4.00). Of the 14 guys who pitched 30+ innings with the Jays last year, all but two exceeded 3.00.

Ray is probably about to do it :,(

Apparently Ray and Matz are both unvaccinated and would not have been allowed to play in Canada next season, which may have made those decisions a little easier for the Blue Jays

Signed with the Cubs, apparently, a few hours before the lockout? And broke the news himself you-know-where.

MLBTR had predicted stroman would land at Five years, $110MM. I am certain he tweeted away at least a year off what he could have gotten.

He's pitched in 29 MLB parks--every park except, yes, Wrigley.

I don't really have any strong feelings about this--pre-COVID, I was getting out to three or four games a year.

https://www.blogto.com/sports_play/2021/12/toronto-blue-jays-rogers-centre-upgrade/

Marcus Stroman won't stop tweeting.

Manclown and his boys need to figure it out and stop ruining the game of baseball. https://t.co/gfQz4ctQas

— Marcus Stroman (@STR0) February 6, 2022

I wonder if other players feel about Twitter Stroman like I felt when Madonna would let loose with some harebrained comment as Obama tried to make his way through a landmine during the 2008 election: please, just disappear for a few months.

(Hoping I can dodge the expected Madonna-love/Obama-antipathy such a post would be greeted with on ILX.)

RIP, Morbs

excellent dave stieb video

(48 minutes...part 1 of 4?!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlviajJlctQ

Will definitely take a look. Jays thread title circa 1985: "Dave Stieb Won't Stop Tweeting."

Jesse Says Relax

Jack Morris or Dave Stieb? https://t.co/CceTcM6f4V

— Jay Jaffe (@jay_jaffe) February 25, 2022

i can't believe that's supposed to be a 4 part series. incredible

lol

>Tom Collins
@TommyCollins99
Feb 25
Replying to
@jay_jaffe
Jack Morris

>Greg Thompson
@gregthompson07
Feb 25
Oh, Tom

Was looking for a famous birthday today to talk about on a supply job, and it's Joe Carter's 62nd.

All these rumours about Freeman are crazy. It makes such little sense. I doubt he’d want to DH full time - and moving Vlad back to 3b would be crazy. He’d be a great player to have if we didn’t already have an all star 1b and didn’t have needs elsewhere (3b/2b) that needed addressing.
Maybe they don’t want to give up the farm for Chapman, but is Bryant really that bad of a signing for 3b? Is Story or Correa as a 2b or SS and siding Bo over and then letting our spare parts play 3rd until (if) Groshans or Martinez are ready not a better option / use of money?

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-agree-on-contracts-for-vladimir-guerrero-jr-10-others-002410791.html

Vlad gets $7.9 million for one year. Not sure how that compares historically--going into his fourth year at 23, coming off an epic season--but I'm glad they avoided arbitration, never a good thing for future negotiations.

Fucking Pete Walker got a DUI last night. Along with doing like double the speed limit.
Fucking selfish asshole. He’s worked all kids of magic with our staff, past and present and now he fucking risks his job because he’s too fucking unless to call an Uber?!

OK what's the new thread named, cuz we need a new one

2022 Toronto Blue Jays - Chappy Bird Friends

not that though X^D

why did they take berrios out, i don't have sound on

Because of all the base runners.

This has been quite the game so far!

love the opening day bullpen game, very 2020s

Jays came back from down 7, Raptors came back from down 24.

raptors? it's like i don't even know you

I'm very indiscriminate in my bandwagonism--Leafs too right now.

(tbf i don't actually know you and also please carry on! auston matthews is awesome)

Oh Clem - I found all the fridge magnate calendars I had told you about! From 2006 (calendar has pics from the Burnett and Ryan signings lol) to 2014 with a couple years missing and then a Reds calendar too somehow.

Great--would still love to get them in a trade, will message you.

Those were two fine games, despite the starters not doing so great

pic.twitter.com/rjlw3z5J9o

— No Context Blue Jays (@No_Context_Jays) April 9, 2022

AL Cy Young obviously just a formality this year...Don't think I appreciated how really good Manoah was last year--should have finished much higher than 8th for ROY (maybe fourth).

bleacher report had his as their darkhorse Cy winner!!

This should have been obvious, but it made me laugh anyway: start to google "Vladimir," and auto-correct fills in Putin first, Vladdy second. Sorry, famous Russian writer, your time has passed.