That Velvet Goldmine movie...... did it do justice to glam rock?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (65 of them)

Though I'm sure some people wanted him to keep dragging the early 70s gear around, like Alice Cooper to this day.

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

I think it's less about people wanting him continue on in glam rock mode and more about the transition from the "I'm gay, and always have been" Melody Maker interview in the early 70s to the "David Bowie Straight" Rolling Stone cover in the early 80s. Been a while since I've seen the film but my impression was that it was kind of an allegory for how it would've felt to experience that shift for someone who had been able to point to Bowie and say "that's me!" in the 70s.

The Wikipedia on this film suggests that the Grant Lee Buffalo track "The Whole Shebang" is a pastiche of "Velvet Goldmine", the song. I hear a lot more "Changes" and "Oh You Pretty Things" in there.

I'm with you there -- I don't really hear "Velvet Goldmine" at all. Now I'm trying to figure out if the chorus is a pastiche of any specific Bowie song. It's always seemed so familiar, but all that's coming to me now is "Mr. Blue Sky."

Anyway, I love those pastiche tracks on the soundtrack so much, especially "The Whole Shebang" and "Hot One." I pretty much never listen to any of the covers though.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 18 November 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

"Mr. Blue Sky" and the two Bowie songs I mentioned all feature choruses with a descending bass line against eighth-note piano chords in the right hand.
"Hot One"'s inspiration is a little more vague - "Time" in the verses, maybe "Lady Stardust" in the chorus?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 November 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link

Think it's less about people wanting him continue on in glam rock mode and more about the transition from the "I'm gay, and always have been" Melody Maker interview in the early 70s to the "David Bowie Straight" Rolling Stone cover... my impression was that it was kind of an allegory for how it would've felt to experience that shift for someone who had been able to point to Bowie and say "that's me!" in the 70s. Oh yeah, that totally makes sense, some Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question discussion of Lou "Only a woman can love a man" Reed going "back in the closet" etc. w some description of his alleged marital set=up w Laurie, on the phone from sep apartments etc. But from a distance, especially, who knows how these things can work? I started being a confused observer in Collegetown. Some people do go back and forth, some don't come back and there are open marriages that last*, also a sexual---spectrum? Ani DeFranco caught it from "The Girl Police" as told in the song of that name, dunno where she's at now, though Revolutionary Love is her latest, I think.
Seems like Bowie and Reed would never address the issue in a song, unless there are unreleased tracks that do, hopefully.
*Recent life-and-works of novelist-etc. Dodie Bellamy in The New Yorker incl. quotes on "queer" B.'s open marriage to "gay" (what's the distinction? Tags they preferred, maybe) to poet Kevin Killian: "We had lesbian sex, we had gay sex..." Not just posing for the world/residual self-image of conformity they were brought up with---and "Only a woman can love a man," though obnoxious, esp, in ponderous "Heavenly Arms," doesn't incl. "sex," so a distinction/escape clause can be inferred.

dow, Friday, 19 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Coming to MUBI (US) June 9th!

The Original Human Beat Surrender (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 June 2023 02:09 (ten months ago) link

This is coming too (incl. theaters next month)
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/david-bowie-ziggy-stardust-the-motion-picture-50th-anniversary-edition/

dow, Friday, 2 June 2023 03:47 (ten months ago) link

Holding the Music in Your Hands ®

dow, Friday, 2 June 2023 03:49 (ten months ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.