The Best Song on The-Dream's Love vs. Money

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I've been into "walking on the moon" a lot lately. mainly because of its great and clean production (the beat is huge and although there are a lot of synths and stuffs going on, there's a lot of space, somehow) and the "I'll pull down the clouds" part which lovely. Kanye is annoying, though.

AleXTC, Monday, 20 July 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm back at the top of the ferris wheel on this album and i'm starting to think that "put it down" is one of the three or four best songs on either album

there's a blap for that (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I think that one, "Fancy" and "Love vs Money, Pt. 1" are the best here

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

put it down put it down put it down

cutty, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

all up on you like a monster truck
all up on you like shawty what's up

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

all up on you like a white tee on a thug

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Spent a good two hours in a train station yesterday listening to Electrik Red --> LoveHate --> Love vs. Money

A-T-L-A-N-T-A-G-A IS WHERE I STAY

Oy!J da Jewman (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

the way it opens is awesome

there's a blap for that (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

when love is the problem.......NOTHING CAN SOLVE IT

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link

so kiss that nigga
hug that nigga
love that nigga to death
go head and please that nigga
feed that nigga
in time you'll see the problem's yourself

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link

really like that part where he goes "had to run up right out the VI, pop that, seen you drop that, and now I'm like do that again" (gain gain)

dyao, Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

that song is one of the oddest of his career imo - like i said upthread, it always immediately strikes me as aurally unappealing, really thin & flat & compressed. but it has some really great lyrics, my thing about terius being great at club sloganeering fleshed out over a whole song. plus the 'titties like woooHOOOOOH' part which is arguably the high point of his career and the keyboard whistles that punctuate throughout. it's a song with so many gifts that presents itself as so ordinary imo. i always have to remind myself how much i love it.

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link

good summation; I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of its thinness, which applies to a lot of the album in general - probably the reason why I only really listen to Fancy through Mr. Yeah, and prefer LvH over this one.

dyao, Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's weird, like, "love vs money" and "love vs money pt 2", i think these are two of his best songs across either album, but sonically they're not "plain" but they are definitely less involved than a ton of the productions on the album. now, i think they work as this two part apocalyptic & hectic mini suite but i'm still taken aback sometimes at how abrasive and simple they are. but, i totally love & buy into them so i totally buy into the mood that tricky & terius were going for

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

ayo sarge I think your d/n has been done before fyi

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link

damn really?

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't see anything in search results \(o_O)/

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Other great things about "Take U Home 2 My Mama":

  • His awesome twang
  • The way he slides into falsetto on the line "I'm makin' my way through the mother-*fuckin club*"
  • The "OH SHAWTY DO THAT AGAIN" chant
  • "I'm like...damn/ My niggas like *DAMN*"
  • Another great slide into falsetto (he does kinda excel at knowing exactly when to do this) "Shawty look good/ Shawty look fly/ She said we could leave after one more dance/ I said *Take your time*"

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I should listen to the damn Mariah album already.

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link

either this or electrik red is my favorite album of the year depending on which i'm listening too

imo

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

for me it's similar except they are #2-3 behind Blaqkout

I think I just thought up your d/n at some point but never used it.

The Reverend, Saturday, 10 October 2009 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link

lol he tried to bite my "blap for that" a few days ago too ¯\(°_o)/¯

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"take u home 2 my mama" has gotta be one of my favorite terius songs period but for some reason i always forget about it when naming my favorite songs from this album - it's not until i play the album and i realize it's coming up that i appreciate it.

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway i think i'm back to repping "rockin that shit" as my favorite now - listened to this while lolhigh and the beat just fuckin jumped out at me like crazy, the synths are so fucking huge

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

like i said in another thread though, i've also recently come to the realization that most of my favorite terius songs are LOS joints, i could seriously listen to his schtick all damn day.

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah "take you home" is so ridic -- just checked and unsurprisingly it's the most played song on the album in my itunes

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i have an all-LOS playlist i've been meaning to burn to disc for a while, maybe i'll post the tracklist and see if anyone can point out anything i forgot

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

man i was gonna request that someone do that actually - ive been listening to a bunch of his shit recently but his wiki page is wayyy underdone, i'd love if you posted what you've got

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

at the moment it's just a basic mix of stuff from the albums i already have -- T-D and Electrik Red plus one track each from the latest Mario/Jamie Foxx/Usher/Mariah/etc. haven't gotten around to getting copies of all the scattered singles like "Bed" and "Stilettos"

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

which mariah track did he do?

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

listened to that karina pasian album last night too, he's got a couple great songs there too, as do tricky/dream

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, "candy bling"...hmm

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"1 Fan" from the new R. album is pretty good, definitely gonna do the shameless segue to or from "Kelly's 12 Play" for that one

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah this song's dope, i need some sort of rss feed for LOS beats so dont miss these

we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

lol he tried to bite my "blap for that" a few days ago too ¯\(°_o)/¯

― we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:23 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

?? i searched the archives & didn't see anything

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

listened to this while lolhigh and the beat just fuckin jumped out at me like crazy, the synths are so fucking huge

― we beat so many gimp (k3vin k.), Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:26 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

ftr all music sounds like this while high

it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i think u guys have conceptual and thematic confused or something xps cos i really have no idea what any of u r talking about when u start talking about how shit is conceptual and i went to art school for four years....

plax (I know, right?), Monday, 26 October 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Courtesy of P4K Guest Lists.

(Ed Droste also had Lv.M on his best-of list but this was hilarious)

Chris Taylor, Grizzly Bear
The-Dream: Love vs. Money
Abner Jay: True Story of Abner Jay
Dirty Projectors: Bitte Orca
Nirvana: Live at Reading
John Maus: Love Is Real
Atlas Sound: Logos
Phoenix: Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix
St. Vincent: The Actor
Cass McCombs: Catacombs
The-Dream: Love vs. Money (yes, it's on the list twice)

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

In fact, Memory Tapes and Wavves also list LvM on their best of the year lists, while the guy from Girls lists Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel as his special treat.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link

So...Terius is now the consensus indie-rocker pick apparently?

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link

WOW SHOCKER

robster craws (cutty), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice to see the album finally get the love it deserves in indie circles. I wish I had thought of putting it on my end of the year list twice.

Evan R, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Too bad these indie fucks need approval from the dudes in Grizzly Bear before they dare crack open a mainstream pop/R&B album.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 14 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

sock sock sock sock sock sock

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Totally serious. Kudos to the Grizzly Bear dude, though, for having it on his list twice. That's just awesome.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

And again, with the caveat that The-Dream needs no approval from P4K whatsoever, I'm sort of baffled that Rockin' That Shit is the consensus pick from the album? I mean, unless a second Terius joint is popping up in the Top 50 but that seems unlikely.

It might be the strongest single, I guess, but the brilliance of LvM is all in the deep cuts. And by "in the deep cuts", I mean "Fancy".

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

popular singles artist being praised for his most popular single of the year shocker

some dude, Monday, 14 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

But he's not a popular singles artist exactly...I don't think I heard him on the radio once all year. For someone so high-profile in terms of writing credits, I usually have to explain who he is to people.

Wikipedia says Rockin' That Shit got to 22, so I suppose it's in the realm of actually popular, as opposed to Ryan Leslie or whatever, but if that's his highest peaking single, I think it's disingenuous to act as though radio-airplay and singles are how The-Dream's work's been consumed, especially in critical circles, especially given the acclaim for the album as a whole.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

well it is still a tracks list & ppl are likely to vote for actual singles in those lists

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Fair. Maybe it's my memory - I seem to recall Pitchfork going out of its way/having a tendency to frequently rate non-singles. Anyway, nothing interesting to say about this really. Recusing myself.

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link


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