Literary treats - recommend great reads

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oh shit, yeah, the boys of my youth is the best. really influential for me. i also love beard's novel in zanesville though it could be construed as ya

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 04:31 (two years ago) link

Dog of the South - Charles Portis

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 05:13 (two years ago) link

Very much appreciating all these recommendations! I had fiction in mind but not opposed to non-fiction at all as long as we're talking real treats, such as well written, perhaps even gripping journalism or narrative essays. Poetry also welcome. Most important is that it be a kind of rewarding read that is not too demanding, an archetype of the treat I'm thinking of could be The Old Man and the Sea or Babette's Feast (although I'm more interested in novels than novellas).

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 09:20 (two years ago) link

The True Deceiver, Tove Jansson - The best of her adult novels I've read, female children's author who writes stories about harmless little bunnies rubs up against independent, hard edged woman in small village. Ideal Winter read, a good one to gift people as they usually don't have it.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 10:31 (two years ago) link

You may already be familiar with The Hearing Trumpet by Leonora Carrington but that seems well-suited here.

Also second the Charles Portis recommendation -- any of his novels, really, especially Masters of Atlantis.

Chris L, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

_The True Deceiver_, Tove Jansson - The best of her adult novels I've read, female children's author who writes stories about harmless little bunnies rubs up against independent, hard edged woman in small village. Ideal Winter read, a good one to gift people as they usually don't have it.


Will check this out

suggest bainne (gyac), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 12:41 (two years ago) link

War With the Newts by Karel Capek. 1936 Czech satire in which people discover and enslave a species of giant intelligent newt and the global economy becomes entirely dependent on them, leading eventually to global Newt revolution and a disastrous rise in sea levels.
― Lily Dale

Ah cool, so is Capek worth reading in general, then? Obv famed for popularising 'robot', but I've never been sure if he's worth digging into in his own right.

You may already be familiar with The Hearing Trumpet by Leonora Carrington but that seems well-suited here.
― Chris L

Seconded!

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

The 'no experimentalism' thing is throwing me a bit, bah. Especially as I feel like IOAWNAT isn't even close to a difficult read! Also I'm guessing that the treat element means nothing too cynical or depressing, right?

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

I'm going to stick to the rools and go with one: A Month in the Country by JL Carr (practically ILX canon, tbh). Swells beyond its 135 pages into timelessness.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 21:06 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

need to read this; his FA Cup book is absolutely amazing and does similar

imago, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

xp I like experimentalism as much as the next person but it just doesn't really fit my idea of a treat

then again rules are meant to be broken and if you know an experimental short novel that's the equivalent of a bounty bar, well... I'd be interested!

some depressing/cynical stuff leaves the reader elated (like Thomas Bernhard) and in that case it's fine by my

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

*me

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

also The Hearing Trumpet is one of the best books ever as far as I'm concerned btw, 100% concur, get on it, etc

imago, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

I think it's less that I want to recommend pure experimental lit and more that sometimes I don't know what people would consider overly experimental - to me something like The Third Policeman is a real treat, but would its quirks rule it out? But if experimental stuff is not completely banned, just not preferred, then that feels easier.

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

I recently got around to The Invention of Morel by Adolfo Bioy Casares and that felt quite treat-like. The central character is overly obsessive about a woman he never speaks to, which may be off-putting, but I didn't feel pushed into empathising with that emotion but rather found myself chuckling at its extent. Mileage might vary, I guess.

emil.y, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

books like The Third Policeman manage to be both treats and the best books ever written tbf, this thread absolutely needs its ilk

imago, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

A Happy man by Hansjorg Schertenleib is a book that's prob a treat, just a guy walking around with a happy (or well-adjusted) life and every sentence it seems like he's going to die, a very strange tension that I haven't really seen very much

Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

Edmund White's Forgetting Elena is... [pause to consider] quite acceptable here. Don't you think?

alimosina, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

various things by John Einarson though I noticed a few years ago that his name keeps getting mispelt on different books or possibly listiongs. He has done some really good music bios including ghost writing/compiling Arthur Lee's memoir. His Mr Tambourine Man on Gene Clark was really good too.

I really enjoyed Behind The Scenes on the Pegasus Carousel by Love drummer Michael Stewart Ware. It was one of the first insider memoirs from the band· I haven't reread it in a while and it has had 2 different updates which I also haven't caught up with.
just looking around my room and seeing love posters on teh wall so being reminded by that.

Simon Reynolds various books on post-punk including Rip It Up And Start Again.

Mark Mordue's book on the young Nick Cave Boy On Fire
Clinton Walker's Stranded on Australian punk and its aftermath

Stevolende, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

Natasha Ginzburg - Sagittarius
Joy Williams - The Quick and the Dead
Elizabeth Taylor - A Wreath of Roses

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

based on these selections, one would do well to read any given new york review classic

mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

I've run into a few duds in NYRB Classics, but overall it has an excellent hit rate. If I see one shelved in a used bookshop I always investigate it and usually buy it, read it and enjoy it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

Black Wings Has My Angel by Elliot Chaze is another really good NYRB book - a forgotten classic of noir that I can't begin to describe but that made me put the book down and stare at a wall several times while I was reading it.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

That may not sound like much of a treat but I meant it in a good way.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

Loved reading Eva Baltasar's Permafrost earlier this year. Maybe too caustic for a treat? But the prose is really packed, maybe reads a bit like what it is -- European fiction in translation -- but it was as vital to read as anything I've read in a long time.

They hired me on a Monday, three months after my first article. For the first time, I felt colorless — a dreadful muddle of various hues, an unthinkably grim and grayish green. My skin was like a mollusk shell, my body parched, my muscles fibrous like esparto grass — and inside I smelled of a parking lot.

I enjoyed the two above-mentioned Babitz books too.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

loved 'black wings has my angel'

flopson, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

That one’s on my list/pvmic

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link

- The Beginning of Spring (Fitzgerald), my favourite book by my favourite author, the perfect midpoint between her early and late styles
- At Freddie’s (Fitzgerald), the funniest one
- The Beiderbecke Affair (Plater), the best ever novelisation of a TV show (not counting Steven Moffat’s The Day or the Doctor, which is probably too niche for this list)
- Harriet the Spy, one of the few books everyone should read

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link

I really love The Long Secret, the sequel to Harriet the Spy.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link

I’m just about to start reading that!

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link

Black Wings Has My Angel by Elliot Chaze is another really good NYRB book - a forgotten classic of noir that I can't begin to describe but that made me put the book down and stare at a wall several times while I was reading it.

Hard Rain Falling by Don Carpenter has a similar effect as this, and goes in a couple of directions you wouldn't necessarily expect from this genre.

May as well start rounding out the list of NYRB Treats. The classic Western Warlock by Oakley Hall was one of my most captivating reads of the last few years. You can see the seeds of Deadwood being planted as you're reading it.

Chris L, Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link

Warlock rules, can confirm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link

gah i started it last year and had trouble getting into it. i will try again.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link

lol i basically tried every nyrb classic that the library had five years ago but couldn't get into any of them. the hearing trumpet and the tove jansson book look promising though.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

I borrowed my brother's copy of Warlock, didn't read it, and accidentally dropped it through the library return slot because I mistook it for another NYRB book. This is a good reminder that I should get around to ordering him another copy.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

The Tove Jansson one is super good.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

Ish Reed's early Yellowback Radio Brokedown, The Freelance Pallbearers, and Mumbo Jumbo are short, not sweet, and imaginative, in a fun way (can see where Blazing Saddles might have come from, for inst).
ZZ Packer's Drinking Coffee Elsewhere is a stone cold classic collection of modern short stories, funny and scary and touching.
AJ LIebling's The Earl of Louisiana set standards for The New Journalism, also the old journalism; in 1959, he checks out a particularly wild turn in the epic career of Louisiana Gov. Earl Long, little brother and lifelong rival of the sainted Huey. Sprung from an asylum after brief, pesky experience, he revs up to run for re-election yet again, though now even his juggling of various shades of black-creole-cajun-WASP-country-urban-etc. interests, also the rich, who tend to hate him but make some deals, even his skillz are tested by backlash vs. civil rights movement, as both sides begin to accelerate
---Liebling is well-quaiified to hobnob with sources in NOLA and elsewhere, but mainly he's partaking of the insider gossip, while observing with the eye of a quick study and very seasoned pro (was war correspondant as weill as appreciator of racetracks and victuals, also one of the best New Yorker rovers of his era). Edutaining as all hell, serious too, and not very long (I checked pape count for all of these) _
This may well have been an inspiration for the Coen Brothers movie in which Paul Newman played Earl (good job, though visually a stretch).
Ditto for Billy Lee Bramner's The Gay Place, three novellas from the orbit of a Texas governor w some of the same feats and challenges as Earl (and some other historical pols of those crispy times)---but TGP is too long for this list sry

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link

yes, i have and have read the tove jansson. it's also short!

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link

oh i meant to say and is very good lol

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Thomas Farber's Tales for the Son of My Unborn Child Berkeley, 1966 - 1969: thoughtful portraits of men and women he knew, also turns the camera around when he gets embarrassingly involved with a sub-Gurdjieff cult leader, a swaggering asshole, shitting on your illusions (worse than Mr. Natural, because realer, although we're left to judge, if we care to, how much of this collection is fiction).

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link

Ah cool, so is Capek worth reading in general, then? Obv famed for popularising 'robot', but I've never been sure if he's worth digging into in his own right.

Yes! I adore Capek, and I went back and forth between recommending War With the Newts, his short story collection Tales from Two Pockets, and a work called Three Novels that might be my favorite but that I ruled out because it could be classified as experimental. He's remembered more for the sci-fi stuff because it's so prescient - he specializes in scenarios where people invent something dangerous, become economically dependent on it, and then keep using it when it's clear that it's actively destroying the world - but he's also good at the small-scale stuff; he's human and humane and funny and dark and intensely empathetic. He's a realist, a magical realist, a satirist, a visionary, and the most grounded and approachable of philosophers. I love him in the same way I love John Prine.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

Damn, that's me sold!

Ish Reed's early Yellowback Radio Brokedown, The Freelance Pallbearers, and Mumbo Jumbo are short, not sweet, and imaginative, in a fun way (can see where Blazing Saddles might have come from, for inst).

Was thinking about suggesting Mumbo Jumbo myself, actually (I haven't read the others). There are elements that I would describe as experimental but it really carries you along, definitely was a fun treat for me when I read it.

emil.y, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

Seconding Out Stealing Horses.

Adding

Love and War in the Appenines - Eric Newby’s beautifully written memoir of being a POW, escaping and then hiding out in Italy during WW II.

Edisto - Padgett Powell. Novel about a boy growing up on the South Carolina coast with an eccentric mother.

that's not my post, Thursday, 18 November 2021 06:00 (two years ago) link

I think I read the Newby book under the title of When the Snow Comes, They Will Take You Away. It was really good.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 09:45 (two years ago) link

If the question is 'what's a book that's just enjoyable to read?' -- then my most immediate answer is probably: Raymond Chandler, eg: FAREWELL, MY LOVELY.

the pinefox, Thursday, 18 November 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

I've only read Long Goodbye (loved) and Big Sleep (good on a sentence level, story kinda generic). Are any of the others as good as Long Goodbye, or like The Big Sleep, but better?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 November 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

Two of my favorite pure treat books, just 100% delightful to read, are Brat Farrar and The Singing Sands by Josephine Tey. Both classic mystery novels but with much more emphasis on the novel part than the mystery part.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 November 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

Oh cool, need to check her. After inspecting the Parker jacket in Lucy Sante's Maybe The People Would Be The Times(2020--great collection, but prob too long and experimental for this thread, so don't repeat DON'T READ IT), I did finally get to Dirty Money, l Richard Stark's last, only one local library has---doesn't matter, prob could have been at any point in the series, at least after the first, blanking on the title, but filmed as Point Blank, one of the best crime pix of 60s, next to Get Carter. In the debut, there's a revenge factor, but once he gets his groove on, Parker's just stealing to steal, doesn't even seem thrilled by it, or anything, just wants to get a plan and a crew together and go do it, as true catalyst, unaffected by the changes he causes, the havoc in other lives, leagues, other crims, and some unwitting accomplices, later w shrewdie self-images shattered ("How could I have missed that??")
What an asshole, and I was rooting for him to get caught, though I think Sante mentioned that he'd done fine in prison, duh. Not perfect, but kept me reading for sure.

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

"leagues other crims" I meant "colleagues, and other crims" (others being targets, also side-switchers when nec., though he still screws with them)

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

I really love The Long Secret, the sequel to Harriet the Spy.

― Lily Dale, Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I’m just about to start reading that!

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Often my favorite novel

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 November 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

I'm more involved with Inspector Maigret, whether he 's emotionally drawn into his latest case or not: sometimes he's just breaking it down w expertise, w something seedy and poignant through the cracks: good enough explanation for him, as he's thinking about a little paperwork, stopping in for a drink, home again so the wife can "feed him like a toddler," as one female Simenon historian observed.

Most recent fave: A Maigret Trio---Three Novels Never Before Published In The United States (early 70s, which is when he'd lived in the US long enough to get into English well enough to become dissatisfied w earlier translations, launching a big redo of complete works, which concluded fairly recently, if at all, really)
All from the Inspector and his creator's last professional decade, and figures from M.'s past figure, professionally-emotionally, in different ways (usually sucks for him, great for us).

dow, Thursday, 18 November 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

the second half of butcher’s crossing just feels too brutal to feel like a treat, i admit this is v subjective

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 November 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

yeah but that was the best part, to me

certified juice therapist (harbl), Saturday, 20 November 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

Some lively discussions of Williams novels on past WAYR?! More than one, prob---seems like one of those subjects we come back to over the years, like when somebody discovers Jean Stafford.t Stoner,in particular, gets folks het up. (I still mean to read it, and maybe everything by him, at least I do when I think of those discussions.)

dow, Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

yeah but that was the best part, to me

― certified juice therapist (harbl), Saturday, November 20, 2021 10:16 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

agreed!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

since the hearing trumpet has already been repped for multiple times, another novel by an english surrealist i also really love: ithell colquhoun's goose of hermogenes

no lime tangier, Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

I found Augustus better realized than Stoner.`

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

I admire what he brought off: a ruler with magnificent self-control writing crisp prose that aspires to be boilerplate but ends up self-revealing.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

1 good short literary type book I read this year -- John Berger's The Red Tenda of Bologna. kind of a travelogue but mostly reminiscences and opinions on art and culture. short chapters and many are self-contained. available as a penguin mini, around 60 pages, 2007.

adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 21 November 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

Omg Harriet trying to come up with a rhyme for her poem in The Long Secret is the best thing

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 21 November 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

A saft ansuer tooneth away rat

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 November 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

Harriet watching TV, as seen through Beth Ellen's eyes, is my favorite thing.

"Look at these things. Look at all these dumb people. Look at these rotten things. I never saw such dumb things. There isn't anything I'd like to see. There's never anything I'd like to see. What a bunch of ridiculous...HEY!" she suddenly yelled. "There's a GREAT Nazi movie on!"

She turned to Beth Ellen, who was flipping channels like a zombie.

"Quick," she screamed, "turn it to that!" She leapt across the room.

Beth Ellen looked over her shoulder at the program, then turned to the right channel. Some Nazis were beating up an old woman on the street.

"Look at those rotten things! Oh, boy!" said Harriet and sat down, stuffing a great gob of popcorn in her mouth.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 21 November 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

Hup.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 November 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

I may have misunderstood the assignment here but I can definitely second Yellowback Radio Brokedown.

A lot of the time for comfort and quick serotonin hits I revert to fun creative nonfiction (Joan Didion, John McPhee or whatever) or Annie Dillard way before I open a novel.

popcornoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 November 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

1 good short literary type book I read this year -- John Berger's The Red Tenda of Bologna. kind of a travelogue but mostly reminiscences and opinions on art and culture. short chapters and many are self-contained. available as a penguin mini, around 60 pages, 2007.

Yes, that one meets the thread's remit. Little pages with paragraphs in the middle, portable, bite-sized. I don't appreciate food or textiles much in real life, but I felt like I did when I read this.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 22 November 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

Jon Fosse - Morning and Evening

115 pages. Gets you emotionally very quickly.

abcfsk, Monday, 22 November 2021 11:47 (two years ago) link

really appreciate all the recommendations!

do not personally care for John Williams, but I agree that if you like his style a book like Stoner must be a treat

Two of my favorite pure treat books, just 100% delightful to read, are Brat Farrar and The Singing Sands by Josephine Tey. Both classic mystery novels but with much more emphasis on the novel part than the mystery part.

intrigued by this (and the Maigret recommendation) as mystery/crime is a genre I like but where I have a hard time finding enjoyable books

corrs unplugged, Monday, 22 November 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

I would highly recommend the Maigret novels; the vibe is quite a change of pace from the typical crime novel. I love the ones where he's just sort of hanging out at the fringes of a scene where shit went down/is about to go down, but not actually acting in any sort of official capacity.

cwkiii, Monday, 22 November 2021 14:01 (two years ago) link

Yeah, "Hey chief, big shoot-out here 10 minutes ago, Suspect B is all over the place." And he, like his creator, knows that he can't do his job like he's committed to if he isn't tuned into that human stuff, w/o gettin' snowflake--it's just that M. and S. have seen sooo much of this over the many years: the series is built for that, w/o getting to soap opera heroine w 7 spouses, 10 comas, x number gettin' into trouble for breakin' all the rules, like so many crime series.

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

I mean usually there's more compartmentalization and repetition of big bravura SFX, none of that here.

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

But I came here to say that mention of the xpost bite-size Berger reminds me of recently noticing a stand-alone of Michael Herr's "Illumination Rounds," an advance excerpt from Dispatches: got me going in New American Review, the mostly (?) 60s-published mass market paperback lit mag.

dow, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

seconding early ishmael reed & hard rain falling, will nom joseph mitchell joe gould's secret or even better the collection up in the old hotel - this is a whopper which is against the rules which are made to be broken, but it's a collection of smaller pieces tbf
(and skip the fiction probably)

another whopper the sot-weed factor is pure pleasure

muriel spark

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

i picked up 'at swim two birds' because of this thread

i lucked out and got this dalkey edition with this quote by dylan thomas on the cover

This is just the book to give your sister if she's a loud, dirty, boozy girl!

https://entertainment.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2011/07/t100_novels_atswimtwobirds.jpg?w=258

flopson, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link

Forgot about that quote.

Duck and Sally Can’t Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

Wanna get back into my middle school fave Saki, but library only has Complete Works in one smallish (Modern Library-style) volume: tiny type!! I may read it anyway, 'til eyeballs rebel.

xpost Muriel Spark: o hell yes The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is great gateway, and just the right length for this thread.

up in the old hotel - this is a whopper which is against the rules which are made to be broken, but it's a collection of smaller pieces tbf
(and skip the fiction probably)
Did Mitchell write fiction? Would like to check it if so.

dow, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

There has been some controversy in certain quarters over how much fiction may have crept into Mitchell's nonfiction. IIRC a few of the pieces in "Up in the Old Hotel" are labeled as fiction. Some others may have been "embellished". They are definitely treats though. Of books I've read recently the one that might best meet the criteria laid out for this thread is "Price of Salt" by Patricia Highsmith, i.e. an effortless, engrossing read.

o. nate, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link

There are all sorts of shades of 'non-fiction', depending on the subject matter and how the author decides to present the material.

Embellishment is intrinsic to any kind of storytelling that pretends to convey a sense of life and action, no matter how strongly it is based in actuality. I guess the phone book (which soon will be completely obsolete as a thing known and familiar) would be a good example of minimally-embellished non-fiction, but even a phone book could be said to impose tiny amounts of imagination and coloration upon the bare facts.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 04:00 (two years ago) link

Yeah, but I read (and skip the fiction probably) as distinguishing between two sets of publications, as if the author or someone since had straight-up designated, say, features over here, short storied over there.

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 04:17 (two years ago) link

justin3 recommended “The Gone World” upthread & i read it last week

holy shit. a horror/scifi that really pushes the boat out. the horror is legit scary af, the scifi is v ambitious, really well written.

it was described as true detective meets inception but inception is wrong. maybe edge of tomorrow?

anyway, get into it, genre-nerds

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 06:04 (two years ago) link

xp yeah I was referring to the handful of short stories collected in up in the old hotel which were explicitly published as fiction

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 07:15 (two years ago) link

Thanks! Didn't remember that distinction, will have to re-read with it in mind, though was pretty sure he at least massaged some of his material. (In Joe Gould's Teeth, Jill LePore says that some documents have come to light which Mitchell couldn't have known about, but also 0 indication among his copious papers that he ever responded to several people who offered to be interviewed etc re Gould.)
The Wikipedia article on Mitchell incl. several pieces that have appeared in The New Yorker this century (think it was the most recent one that I read and liked):
Wiki page has links for each, though they're behind account wall; dunno if you can just sign up and view w/o having to pay)
2000–2015
Takes Takes (May 28, 2000)
Street Life Personal History (February 3, 2013)
Days in the Branch Personal History (November 24, 2014)
A Place of Pasts Personal History (February 9, 2015)

dow, Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

xxp i also read 'the gone world' on justin3's recommendation and it was v. good

however

as someone who grew up in southwestern pennsylvania at the same time as the protagonist (I was born a year later), i feel compelled to point out that teenage girls there in 1985 who dressed like madonna or had michael jackson jackets absolutely did *not* listen to AC/DC (especially not powerage, which didn't even have a hit?!)

otoh the author might have simply been heightening the contradictions? get out of my head

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

I really wish someone would read Keith Maillard, perhaps only to disabuse me of the notion that he’s utterly fabulous. I and about a dozen other people think he’s a treasure - and his books are a treat. Anything, really, but I was knocked out by his latest novel, Twin Studies.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 2 December 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

An English Murder, Cyril Hare - Cozy mystery, set at x-mas no less, but with real life 50's politics intruding - aristocratic family includes a cousin who is Chancellor of the Exchequer in the labour govt as well as a son leading a neo-fascist group; the Poirotesque outsider, a Hungarian Jewish academic, is a holocaust survivor. Breezed through it, great stuff.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 10:37 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Sigrid Nunez has been doing it for me lately, The Friend and What Are You Going Through? total gems

corrs unplugged, Monday, 16 May 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link


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