Are you telling me this is AE: SIGN? (Autechre LP 14)

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Comparing NTS to SIGN is like comparing Trans Europe Express to Radioactivity. I strongly prefer Radioactivity but I know a lot of people would disagree

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

And ohmigod some of the tracks on NTS go on for sooo loooong without really doing anything. I don't know how they can justify something like bqbqbq being 11 minutes. It's interesting for all of the first minute

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link

super disagree on that, it's a maximalist piece which asks "what if this, but played out to its fullest extent" and I could listen to that all day. So many tracks mutate, or splinter into tangents, and the length basically forces you to work past your first impressions and listen for other things.
and re: all end, sure there are other works of similar magnitude and concept, sure it's just a timestretch of a simple noise piece, sure there's any number of ways you could criticise it, but lukas is right that it's a ganzfeld on which I hallucinate my soul. I listened to it cranked, a few times in full, during a phase of my life where my emotions were basically unbearable and unprocessable, and it felt like being suspended as a cloud of atoms and was immensely healing to me. So I don't really care if it's clever or original or whatever, it's just wonderful. This kind of art is equally about selection as creation, and putting that up as an hour-length block was clearly an aesthetic decision. Wouldn't matter if it was a field recording of an electric fan.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link

I agree with dog latin - I get that the length and drawn out patterns are part of the appeal but certain tracks on here just don’t do anything for me and they just go on soooo long. I love a good 3/4 of it though. Including “bqbqbq” (which you gotta admit is pretty funny to have as the 2nd track)

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link

I think we can all agree that … we want more AE in 2022, though, right? 🙂

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

mattt otmfm

lukas, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link

I’d be down for more Autechre sure

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

Every time this thread comes to life I get a PTSD shock that the band might have dropped another 8 hours of music.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

I still want a physical 5CD box of Elseq. I know it’s never coming but I hold out hope.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link

fwiw the individual NTS Sessions on vinyl are actually pretty cheap, you can get them for like $25 + shipping even though they are 3xLPs. I guess too many people (correctly) decided this was ridiculous to have on wax. but they're wrong. it's awesome on vinyl even changing a record and flipping a side in "all end"

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 03:29 (two years ago) link

because of the activity on this thread I am listening to PLUS and honestly I think it's as good as anything they've released, at least on a per minute scale. and it's probably the most accessible thing they've done since LP5, outside of Oversteps/Move of Ten. pretty much all the things they do well are on it. and it's got "lux 106 mod" which is arguably prettier than anything on SIGN! can't help but wonder how it would've been received had it been released first.

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

also its nice to hear Autechre making music that sounds funny again. "TM1 open" is like Hobbit disco

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link

because of the activity on this thread I am listening to PLUS and honestly I think it's as good as anything they've released

been meaning to make this exact post all day

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 04:15 (two years ago) link

anyway now that I'm done I will be listening to Cluster, who in many ways were the original Autechre. no I will not elaborate on that

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 04:20 (two years ago) link

@unperson yes! My NTS Sessions CD set gives me warm wibbles and it's a shame we can't have the same with Elseq.

raven, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 07:18 (two years ago) link

Listened to Plus yesterday, aside from a track or two it still mostly passes me by, possibly because I was never so much into "beat based techno in the classic era". Love the lush and pillowly Sign; I also think of NTS as a career peak and a monumental achievement that transcends its own few longeurs. What I go to most often for a quick and easy hit of ne plus ultra ae though is elseq 1 tracks 2-5.

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 07:54 (two years ago) link

I bet they press elseq on vinyl for the 10th ann in 2016

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 08:03 (two years ago) link

*2026

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 08:03 (two years ago) link

Fuck, just realised that's not far off

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 09:08 (two years ago) link

Unperson, that’s something I want too.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

Speaking of which, I got notified today that my Copies of Chiastic and LP5 have been dispatched and OMG I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR LONGER THAN BQBQBQ

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 12:21 (two years ago) link

Good news! Hopefully that means mine are en route too. I typically prefer Autechre on CD but I'm very excited to get these.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

yeah i don't know why i even own Autechre on record, but these are very impotant albums for me and it will be a nice way to rediscover them

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 13:19 (two years ago) link

Just another voice on the Internet saying "I'd like an Elseq CD set" (was even considering some Russian boot but now all I see on Ebay is a thumb drive in a box).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

Is "buy it and burn it" not an option? or unsatisfying without artwork?

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link

the lack of a physical copy means that despite Ae being one of my favorite musical acts ever I'm barely familiar with elseq relative to the rest of the catalog

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

xp -- probably mostly the latter for me, plus CD-Rs being more likely to degrade over time than factory-pressed discs (Russian boots in my limited
experience have been factory-pressed)

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

but lukas is right that it's a ganzfeld on which I hallucinate my soul. I listened to it cranked, a few times in full, during a phase of my life where my emotions were basically unbearable and unprocessable, and it felt like being suspended as a cloud of atoms and was immensely healing to me.

I recently programmed some LED lights to create a visual ganzfeld while in a sauna listening to All End for 20 mins, and this description feels like it matched my experience a bit

octobeard, Thursday, 18 November 2021 06:03 (two years ago) link

my soul sibling

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 18 November 2021 06:59 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

picking this up again after a year and I never realized how symphonic a lot of this album is. you could almost envision an orchestra playing it. guess I missed a lot of that because I'm not used to hearing stuff like that out of Autechre.

frogbs, Monday, 22 May 2023 03:07 (eleven months ago) link


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