Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

Mars Volta dude did have a pretty sweet Ibanez signature model about ten years ago IIRC

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

If I had $3K, I'd buy Omar's EBMM model: https://www.music-man.com/instruments/guitars/mariposa

Wait, who releases things *only* on cassette with no download? The general practice with all tape labels I know is that the tapes are the physical format for those who want one but they always come with downloads too.

yeah thats always been my experience. im not into lofi noise tape culture but i would assume that anybody honestly doing tape-only-no-download releases has a pretty good idea that their fans are really into playing tapes?

I know Dump did that on this more recent release:

https://editalaservidumbre.bandcamp.com/album/dump-blown-dunks

no, being able to listen to the songs you want doesn't make you need to rate, rank or list anything, there must be something else wrong with you.

― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, November 9, 2021 5:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

for sure but I don't think I'm necessarily alone in this. idk maybe part of this was first getting access to high speed internet in 2004, when the word was the RIAA was gonna shut down all illegal downloading and sue everyone who downloaded "LiNkIn-PaRk-nUmB.exe". also I am pretty sure torrent trackers were getting shut down on a monthly basis. so there was this attitude of "get in while the gettin's good". I would guess the next generation, for whom everything is just available on Spotify and YouTube all the time, does not feel this way.

fwiw I'm not arguing that digital music is a bad thing, in fact it's been a very very good thing for me, just saying the fact that there is effectively an infinite amount of music out there can cause its own type of anxiety

ive talked before about how a big part of what keeps me in physical media is that, having grown up in the pre-streaming era, i find it hard to wrap my head around the infinite options of streaming, my brain shuts down, it becomes too overwhelming. the physical tactile element of 3-dimensional objects that i can look at, flip through, make stacks, stumble across, set aside, etc is just such an ingrained part of how i listen, remember, and organize music in my brain. i stream as well, but its almost always either triggered by a physical release or results in me getting a physical release.

I still enjoy physical media as well, but I recreate "pulling things off the shelves to listen to later" by simply keeping a list on my phone of things that pop up in my head. Since I can stream them all, it means I never struggle to decide what to listen to next.

Wait, who releases things *only* on cassette with no download? The general practice with all tape labels I know is that the tapes are the physical format for those who want one but they always come with downloads too.

Bunch of examples here where only cassette format exists: https://boomkat.com/new-releases?q[format]=Cassette

this thread was made for this website?
https://kollektivx.com/

I think I understand this as you pay money along with a group of strangers, for someone to buy a record, then this person gives you a rip of the record and this person keeps the record.

But also there’s an option for the buyers to vote to sell after it’s been ripped?

back in my day we shared dope music with anyone who would listen 100% for free.

seems like another nightmarish way that the internet is monetizing what used to be organic human interaction.

i mean, neat idea to get otherwise obscure music "out there" but right up front there's a huge disclaimer about how it's for "TEACHING, RESEARCH, PRIVATE STUDY, AND REVIEW ONLY I SWEAR GUYS I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY" and i am as equally as horrified by it as i am enchanted.

thread delivers two days and running. very creepy "sunday in perfect suburbia" vibes, this last one.

ahh shucks, i got this one confused with Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

but still, this is a really great one too.

that is some weird trapdoor backgroundo elitist ridiculousness! ever heard of YouTube? oh wait are these supposed to be like Dr Ebbetts quality?

iow, what austin said!

lads i just had lunch and i’m storing up a few big lossless rips myself

FLAC

This thread from Scat Records is, disheartening, to say the least.

We've been pressing records at RTI for 25 years. They're so backed up now that they won't accept *new* print deliveries for the last 3 months of 2021. Much of the print we've sent their way earlier this year is being stored outside.
Time to take the hint. Open to suggestions.

— Scat Records (@_ScatRecords) November 4, 2021

My distributor: "we've gone beyond pressing delays to systemic collapse"

— Scat Records (@_ScatRecords) November 4, 2021

related, on the trucking shortage:

https://jalopnik.com/greed-is-why-the-supply-chain-crisis-isnt-ending-veter-1848068966

Is this rolling US economy into shitbin?

Is this rolling US economy into shit cut-out bin?

Fixed

this is such bullshit, bring back CDs already

just sell cds in the same sized jackets that vinyl came in, best of both worlds, no more backlogs

this is such bullshit, bring back CDs already

― brimstead, Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:12 PM

BUT MY WARM AESTHETIC!

maybe VNYL can sell "smug, unearned superiority complexes" for a premium too if they run short on product

then what have i been paying for this whole time!!????!?

surely this isn't real

https://better-records.com/collections/new-arrivals

Imagine paying $650 for Blind Faith.

the FAQ teeters on the edge of being an actual store for the ludicrous Hot Stampers guy we were mocking this summer, and being an extremely knowing parody. the item descriptions feel overwhelmingly like the latter, so somehow sadly i think it's probably the former.

What’s the difference between White Hot, Super Hot, and Nearly White Hot. Are these Goldmine standards.

lol this is good.

Imagine paying $650 for Blind Faith.

"tell me you have more money than you need without telling me you have more money than you need"

from the Jackson Browne description:

This one was bigger and bolder, with more Tubey Magical richness on Jackson's voice

"The most Tubey Magic, without which you have almost nothing. CDs give you clean and clear. Only the best vintage vinyl pressings offer the kind of Tubey Magic that was on the tapes in 1978"

Pretty sure no one was using tube equipment in 1978.

three hundred for supertramp!

(i thought these might be nfts)

Wait, does this dork think all analogue recording was on tubes?

Hot Stamper FAQ answers written as if the jig is up, probably with the salesman mindset that coming off as brutally honest and self aware will build trust.

$150 for the Doowackadoodlers!

IMAGINE THE PRICES FOR DOODLETOWN PIPERS ULTRAHOT STAMPERS!

most of our clowning on Hot Stampers as a concept is in the Snake Oil thread. the discussion I was thinking of from last year starts here: Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

"The most Tubey Magic, without which you have almost nothing. CDs give you clean and clear. Only the best vintage vinyl pressings offer the kind of Tubey Magic that was on the tapes in 1978"

Pretty sure no one was using tube equipment in 1978.

― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Monday, January 31, 2022 11:43 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

there is still tons of tube gear being used to this day

though a lot of it is being used on digital recordings which kinda defeats his point

but tube consoles are still used in studios all the time and were even more so in 78

Hot Stamper 'First Mention': Crazy Priced Vinyl On EBAY

lmao at the last sentence here

What makes you guys think you know it all?
We definitely don’t know it all. In fact nothing could be further from the truth. If we knew it all we couldn't learn anything from the piles and piles of records we listen to every day. With practically every shootout we learn something new about our favorite records. That, more than anything else, is what makes the kind of tedious, time-consuming, mentally exhausting work we do fun. Case in point: a Columbia Pressing we played not long ago.

Self-XP And that post was about 'Better Records'!

that paragraph from frogbs makes me feel attacked

though a lot of it is being used on digital recordings which kinda defeats his point

but tube consoles are still used in studios all the time and were even more so in 78

https://vinylblade.com/product

won't this be a bit heavy and tricky to play at the right speed? i dunno about this

also, not vinyl:

Vinyl Blade’s grooves are copper-clad steel, which may wear your stylus down faster than a normal record.

and not really a saw:

Do not use Vinyl Blade on a saw. It is not rated or intended for use as a functional saw blade. Attempting to use Vinyl Blade on a saw could result in serious injury or death.

yup really got my doubts on this one

what could possibly go wrong

got to up the speed to play it right, just be very very careful