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i also think those kinds of lists are really harmful and destructive.

explain please

Isn't Anything is better than Loveless.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 10 November 2021

Sunny Sundae Smile is better than both

At this point I’m more interested in hearing someone passionately defending it. But to be clear, I am not that person.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 November 2021

Yes, it's boring because it doesn't live up to its progressive rhetoric. It should be the prog rock of dance music with tempo/key/time signature changes all eventually resolving to an ultimate, grandiose 4/4 at various tempos, but instead its more like the English version of jam bands. just noodling.

Symphonic house, now there's a thought. Does it exist?

basically simon should have demanded this in Energy Flash. Show us, where are ya?

dance music with tempo/key/time signature changes does not work as dance music, because nobody can dance to it.

dance music with tempo/key/time signature changes does not work as dance music, because nobody can dance to it.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 10 November 2021

Decolonise your penis, please.

You are so gross

otm

That said, out of tempo, time sig and keychanges, one of these things is not like the others wrt dancing, unless admittedly like most of ILM a surfeit of melodic invention brings you out in a rash

You are so gross
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 November 2021

I'm extremely fastidious with personal hygiene, I'll have you know.

dance music with tempo/key/time signature changes does not work as dance music, because nobody can dance to it.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 10 November 2021

Objectively and historically and scientifically wrong in any case, so quit with the patronising. Although this doesn't have key changes, but that would hardly be a problem for our future progressive dance epics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUskMOQ6kP4

Circumcision cleanses the soul from imperialist prejudices.

jfc Robbie, not going to engage with this

jfc Robbie, not going to engage with this
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 10 November 2021

Sad face emoji vibes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCxASlE5XI

Yes, it's boring because it doesn't live up to its progressive rhetoric.

Prog house not being all that progressive yeah that's clear but then again lots of genres got their name early on and ended up somewhere completely elsewhere - IDM very quickly ended up very much not "dance music", etc. If they had called it deep groove instead or something similarly accurate, it'd still be just as boring, but few people would make this big "progressive? ha!" deal about it.

It should be the prog rock of dance music with tempo/key/time signature changes all eventually resolving to an ultimate, grandiose 4/4 at various tempos

Well there's the whole psy angle - Shpongle, Younger Brother & all. Hard to make that work in the context of a DJ set though, which is what 99% of dance music is produced for.

I'm counting four tempo changes in this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRN2OgYoZUU

"in the context of a DJ set for a dancefloor" I should probably say.

I find the extremely specific genre names under the electronic and metal umbrellas silly.

of course it's silly, but at least it's fairly helpful for picking what club night to go to.

IDM is at least amusing though, as you can just pretend the phonetic way a speech synthesiser pronounces it, 'ihdm', is its own, made up word.

As for dj sets, this shouldn't be an excuse but then again the dance music industry is hopelessly anachronistic — still using cdjs (got to be a CIA psyop, surely?) when you can have 4-6 deck hooligan plunderphonics meltdowns on virtual dj, why would you choose to remain hopelessly out of date? At least in the 90s using an outdated format was born out of necessity, today it's just rave grandad-ism, which is fine and all, but at least own up to it rather than the pseudo-spiritual tosh of dj sets being some kind of amazonian shamanic ritual — they are rituals alright, but for sinners, and certainly not for noble or religious purposes. Structure - We are Structure and we will blow your mind out like a fuse on 303s.

I find the extremely specific genre names under the electronic and metal umbrellas silly.

It can be fun to mix them. Death trance acid. Hard black glam. Industrial hair.

Personal note: I pretty much noped out in 1995 when I encountered earnest gatekeeping about the boundaries of vegancore.

There should be more genres based on diet tho: ovo-lacto-disco. paleo ska. Etc.

I like that, I'll start to pronounce it 'iddim.

4-6 deck organized chaos will probably happen, but not by human dj's

i could definitely rank my 5 favorite donald duck comics

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:21 AM (fifteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I like making lists in my mind, and I don't even know why. It's not that I think the lists have much value, it's just the kind of exercise that my brain likes as a thinking prompt.

xp please rank your 5 favorite Donald Duck comics!

― Lily Dale, Wednesday, November 10, 2021 12:23 AM (fifteen hours ago)

the golden helmet (1952), pool sharks (1951), the old castle's secret (1948), letter to santa (1949), the talking dog (1953). (all by carl barks, of course.)

Most songs would be improved if we replaced guitar solos with Mariah Carey whistle vocals.

paleo ska

This is giving me chills. A gang of like 7 ripped dudes with trombones.

Carl Barks is imperialist prejudices

The Golden Helmet is classic, Lost in the Andes and Back to Long Ago are up there for me.

I definitely would like more dance music that changes tempo/key and that. Don't see why not and don't agree you wouldn't be able to dance to it. Plenty of tunes switch up/down partway through

Most songs would be improved if we replaced guitar solos with Mariah Carey whistle vocals.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:25 (one hour ago) link

Dinosaur Jr would sound bonkers

Death trance acid

I'll have some of this, plz

Yes, it's boring because it doesn't live up to its progressive rhetoric.

Next up: RobbiePires DESTROYS airline food!

I'll have some of this, plz
― beard papa, Wednesday, 10 November 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bvm2U2CFw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBYI2E3mwGo

I definitely would like more dance music that changes tempo/key and that. Don't see why not and don't agree you wouldn't be able to dance to it. Plenty of tunes switch up/down partway through

like, view one ballet plz

Max Martin is a terrible songwriter who has ruined pop music for over two decades.

That's controversial?

Imago actually likes Wet Leg.

The list of MM #1s is like a gallery of crimes against text setting in the English language.

I just think of him as second-generation ABBA, me

he seemed pleasant enough on Jessie Ware's podcast

you know what?

fuck sonic youth.

they suck. fucking overrated trash.

wow i feel better.

Still better than McCartney.

otm

Daydream Nation is the only good Sonic Youth album.

Daydream Nation is the only good Sonic Youth album.

I don’t know if saying the debut EP is my favorite Sonic Youth is a challop or anything but “Burning Spear” runs through my head A LOT.

Goo is the only good Sonic Youth album.

It feels like all of you came here specifically to strike back against Sund4r, lol

My favourite Sonic Youth albums/moments are such outliers that I feel like I must subconsciously hate the band: Ciccone Youth, the first song on Experimental Jet Set, the s/t EP. I generally like any given Kim song tho

As for enjoying Sonic Youth when they're being Sonic Youth I do really like Rather Ripped and Nurse

Sonic Youth were an important band for me growing up but I haven't listen to any of their records post Washing Machine.