What, like Hiroshima?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 November 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
You saw nothing in Hiroshima.
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuBIz0G_pls
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
Gosar is a pox on this thread
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
ugh
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
^^The Important Thing Is To Love, which also has Jacques Dutronc and Klaus Kinski!
Shows up in Françoise Hardy's autobio, she was very worried Dutronc would fall for Schneider and leave her.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 09:12 (two years ago) link
just saw Sans Soleil, what an amazing film. I plan to see it again but as many times as I could watch it I don’t think I will ever be able to absorb it all
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
its fun to watch in a movie marathon with la jetée and vertigo
― plax (ico), Sunday, 14 November 2021 09:52 (two years ago) link
So good, and you barely started on Marker (if that's your first by him).
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 November 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link
also watched La Jetée, which is even harder to parse
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
it was the inspiration for twelve monkeys if that helps.
― koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
Hard to parse, you say?
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link
:)
There are a couple of others available on the Criterion Channel and one on Kanopy, I will watch, but among his 67 credits there is nothing else I can find right now, including on dvd
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link
Tonight I watched one of the films I hadn't seen: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I really liked the structure and timing; the opening crawl and graveyard shots set up the tension, then large segments of the first half of the movie are hippie kids wandering through meadows like some anodyne public television footage I might have watched as a little kid. Many of the most horrific scenes take place on a sunny afternoon or a pale dawn; two of the characters don't even realize they're in danger until two-thirds of the way through. It's definitely true what Clemenza said above that the most horrible scenes are also the most funny. I was also pleased to find that none of the film had been spoiled for me by being quoted or memed (or maybe I just haven't encountered it).
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link
I should totally have voted for TCM. It's better than Georgy Girl, or whatever shit I put at 25
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link
the scene with the takenoko-zoku dance troupe in Tokyo in Sans Soleil was really great
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
everyone should retire at age 20? not sure I heard that right
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:30 (two years ago) link
there was so much that went by in that film
― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link
There really is, and as many times as I've seen it, I find myself catching something new in between the bouts of me nodding my head "yes" constantly.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
“The Stargate sequence in 2001 has dated worse than most special effects from that era - feels like something you'd see in some psychsploitation film - and make it v difficult to tune in to the film's idea of transcendence imo”
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, November 5, 2021
that is not true at all, it still feels transcendental. When was a sequence like this ever imagined before
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:00 (two years ago) link
By Brakhage.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link
they are very different
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
Kael compared the Stargate sequence (not favorably, to put it mildly) to another filmmaker--checked back, and it wasn't Brakhage but Jordan Belson, who I don't know at all. But this does suggest a strong influence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFA29CsDRe0
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link
oh come on
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link
I'm not saying it's better. I'm not saying anything except there's clearly some similarity, and I suspect Kubrick was aware of it's existence. (Belson wasn't working with a major studio and a big budget, and it was 1959.)
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:32 (two years ago) link
there is no comparison
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link
Okay, Dan S.--Kevin's wrong, Kael's wrong, I'm wrong. Stargate is sui generis.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:43 (two years ago) link
:) I respect your point of view, but think it is!
― Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link
This won't change your mind, but you should find this piece interesting:
https://offscreen.com/view/beyond_the_infinite
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link
The one thing I got above all else from Michael Benson's 2001 book (and it's not one of my favourite films, but one that interests me a great deal) is that Kubrick was hyper-attuned to everything around him in the culture--like Godard, or Dylan, or Warhol around the same time--and that he grabbed at anything he thought he could use. That's not a criticism at all, far from it. He's still the one who took all that stuff and turned it into something.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link
its certainly fair to bring up Jordan Belson as an antecedent to the stargate sequence, but Kael calling the sequence "third rate" Belson has got to be one of the looniest challops of her career. iirc in the Benson book Trumbull IDs John Whitney (who did the animation in Vertigo) as one of his main influences on the sequence
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 December 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link
I thought that was way off too.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link
I read that Kubrick did attempt to get a contemporary experimental filmmaker to help create the Stargate sequence, but I don't remember who now.
Last week I watched John Carpenter 's The Thing from this list. It was well done, but I'm the sort of horror-film viewer who watches avidly in the early "ominous" scenes where helicopters land on empty patches of snow or someone walks down an empty corridor. By the later scenes, when blood is geysering and chest cavities are imploding, I'm shrugging. It also seemed to me that the threat the Thing posed was whatever Carpenter decided it needed to be from scene-to-scene. First it has to hide inside a human being, but all of a sudden it can tear through the ground like a submarine going 100 miles an hour? I didn't feel the film was playing fair with expectations. But one detail I liked was that the cast was large enough that I really didn't get a handle on who each character was until most of them were dead; it kept me guessing about the human drama.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 December 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link
that is not true at all, it still feels transcendental.
Pfft, seen it a bunch of times and haven't transcended once.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 3 December 2021 10:17 (two years ago) link
I'll transcend you.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 3 December 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
Mikhail Kalatozov's The Cranes Are Flying is a pretty great film, looking forward to I Am Cuba
― Dan S, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link
Funny, Cranes has been on my mind this week as one to revisit. Of the two, Cranes is the better film in terms of storytelling - the drama & acting in I Am Cuba are pretty cartoonish, but Cuba's rep for eye-popping visuals is well deserved
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link
have been reading this thread again, it is the best ilx film thread ever
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:48 (two years ago) link
even better than the 101 Directors poll, which was also great:
All Right, Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready For My Close-Up ... It's The ILXOR's Top 101 Director Poll Results Thread
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link
does anyone know when the 2022 S&S poll will come out?
― Dan S, Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:51 (two years ago) link
I don’t even know who is getting ballots. Everyone I’ve asked has said they haven’t (so far)
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 April 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
I read on twitter today that the call for ballots has now gone out. I hope the films critics here will be able to vote. I will look out for contacts
― Dan S, Saturday, 7 May 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link
I’m only surreptitiously a critic but I might shamelessly beg for a ballot
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 May 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
You know who didn't submit a ballot here? mark s didn't.
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
you call that a comprehensive list? what good does that do?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link
I watched The Night of the Hunter again, it's very creepy and quite good but I wouldn't put it in the top 10 films of all time
― Dan S, Friday, 9 September 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link
Haven't cross-referenced these lists against each other, but I'd bet that at least a third factor into both, maybe even half ...
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 December 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link