this entire interview: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/spoon-lucifer-on-the-sofa-interview-britt-daniel/
― na (NA), Monday, 8 November 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
OMG
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 November 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
Posted over on The Wrens thread: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/nov/24/its-repulsive-to-me-the-bitter-feud-of-indie-rockers-the-wrens
Whelan says he hopes for an eventual return to the band’s punk-rock roots, with “just four of us standing in a basement”.
― cwkiii, Thursday, 25 November 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
two people squatting in it
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 November 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link
just four of us standing in a basement
Good idea. More bands could benefit from stand-up drummers.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
I think we opened for them once in Trenton. It was fucking EMPTY, which was weird since they were supposedly a well-liked NJ band. Also IIRC they played a pretty spot-on cover of War Pigs. This was before I remember that song becoming one of the most played out covers of all time.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 25 November 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link
Just four people dapping in a silo
― Vinnie, Thursday, 25 November 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link
Brett Anderson says "Autofiction is our punk record. No whistles and bells. Just the five of us in a room with all the glitches and fuck-ups revealed; the band themselves exposed in all their primal mess."The record was produced by long-time Suede collaborator Ed Buller, and comes 30 years after the release of their debut single 'The Drowners' in May 1992. “Autofiction has a natural freshness, it's where we want to be,” Anderson continues. The album was recorded with a back-to-basics approach, thrashed out by the five members in a Kings Cross rehearsal studio. “When we were rehearsing and writing this record it was this sheer, physical rush. That thing where you're hanging on for dear life,” adds bassist Mat Osman.
The record was produced by long-time Suede collaborator Ed Buller, and comes 30 years after the release of their debut single 'The Drowners' in May 1992. “Autofiction has a natural freshness, it's where we want to be,” Anderson continues. The album was recorded with a back-to-basics approach, thrashed out by the five members in a Kings Cross rehearsal studio. “When we were rehearsing and writing this record it was this sheer, physical rush. That thing where you're hanging on for dear life,” adds bassist Mat Osman.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
Textbook.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 23 May 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link
Thrashed out!
― peace, man, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link
"This one is from our new album."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 May 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
ilxor must have a "prototypical lifecycle/album cycle of every band" thread? (even successful jokes would still be owned by "into the unknown/back to the known" tho. imo).
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Monday, 23 May 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link
Red Hot Chili Peppers have a new album out!
Interviewer: "And what did it feel like the first time you were all playing together again?"Anthony Kiedis: “It felt humbling and going back to square one... to remember what it was to be four guys in a room together playing music and then we started writing new songs.”
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
what
― calstars, Friday, 1 July 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
when did ppl stop recording music primarily in rooms
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
lol, but c'mon that makes sense
('together' being the key word)
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
Which is more than Anthony Kiedis does in that interview.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
just four guys, in a room, doing heroin
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
Writin' songs, playin' instruments
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
In Caaaaaalllllaaaaafooooooorrrrrnnnnniiiiiia
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link
when did ppl stop recording music primarily in roomsthough it faintly pains me to defend Tony Flow, my understanding is that RHCP have continued to record in rooms (regardless of other bands’ practices), but he is acknowledging that one of the four guys had departed the band for the previous ten to fifteen years of recording, and thus not been in said rooms.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 1 July 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link
John Wesley Harding, Let it Be, Beggars Banquet― niels
I've been looking at the origins of back-to-basics for something I've been working on, and I always assumed it began with The White Album, Beggars Banquet, and JWH. I was surprised, then, to read Jann Wenner's original review of The White Album, where he's bored with the whole idea, like it's yesterday's news:
"...in the past few months we have been deluged with talk of 'going back to rock and roll,' so much that the idea (first expressed in the pages of Rolling Stone) is now a tiresome one, because it is, like all other superficial changes in rock and roll styles, one that soon becomes faddish, over-used and tired-out."
― clemenza, Friday, 1 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link
Never got into Let It Be, but JWH,BB, and The Beatles/White Album are not just rehashed rootz.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link
xxp Perhaps, though "square one" for RHCP wasn't those particular four guys (and he doesn't say "THESE four guys in a room together..."). This ties into it being such a weirdly vacant-feeling quote, as if it's somehow missing every fourth or fifth word.
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
Always thought of Beach Boys, "Wild Honey", as being a precursor of "back to basics".
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
In a fresh way, yeah.
xpost Keidis also had his own book to do:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71WwOBbOEzL.jpg
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Keep in mind that, if the back-to-roots idea had been in the air for 10 or 11 months before Nov 1968, that was already more than half of Rolling Stone's lifespan. Also Wenner might have wanted to get out in front of the next trend by saying, "we pioneered this, but we're already onto the next thing".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Well, in a weird way, it was in fact Smiley Smile.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
Well, yes, I thought of that, in terms of being stripped back and home recorded, but there's far too much psychedelic era weirdness going on!
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
Keidis book Co-written with Larry Sloman, dubbed "Ratso" by the Rolling Thunder Review, when he was the Stone's rolling Rolling correspondent. They assigned him to taking Dylan's dog for walkies. He dubbed Berlin The Sgt. Pepper's of the 70s. Sample text on Amazon page looks disappointingly normie so far.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link
have to imagine a lot of pretty much forgotten bands reacting to Pepper et al with "yeah we're taking it back to rock and roll" in the press?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
home recorded, but there's far too much psychedelic era weirdness going on! That was home to Brian, his sandbox being thee least of it.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link
JWH,BB, and The Beatles/White Album are not just rehashed rootz..
No, but I think it was a somewhat amorphous concept that meant different things in different contexts. For Sha Na Na, it meant an imitation--a pretty dire one--of 1957. With those three albums, I take it to mean something like, "Last year we were doing '2000 Light Years from Home,' now we want to play things that sound like 'Prodigal Son.'"
― clemenza, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link
Also, blues rock was coming up, first Canned Heat album was released '67.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link
OMG, they were uneven----w Al Wilson and John Lee Hooker, and sometimes even without, could be quite good, but a Rolling Stone reviewer (Ed Ward?) said another album should have been titled Yassuh Boss.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
That's around the time I started seeing the term "blooze," although Mayall and some other dealers had their high points from time to tim.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
I love Canned Heat!
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
Yeah, they could be very good!
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
Future Blues is a peak w Al Wilson (also there's a Wilson compilation now), also Hooker n Heat is uneven, but the Hook keeps it going, and The Very Best of Canned Heat is good.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
I enjoyed Robert Johnson’s back to basics phase
― calstars, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
hooker and heat is totally badass
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link
I guess Zeppelins back to basics record is presence? Not really tho. Good on them to never have reached that point
― calstars, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link
I've been looking at the origins of back-to-basics for something I've been working on, and I always assumed it began with The White Album, Beggars Banquet, and JWH.It pretty much started with Music From Big Pink, which — along with bootlegs of The Basement Tapes — essentially forced all UK rock musicians to simultaneously stop taking acid. Two hugely successful bands (the Small Faces and Cream) broke up because of the Band, and every other remaining group tried to sound like the Band.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
Yeah, although that wasn't just going back to roots, it was what you could do with them: a fairly slow set, kicking off with a dirge ffs---but so intense in its way, in layers and segments of genres, subgenres, within as well as among tracks---psychedelic in its way, expanding and contracting thee lines around things (I don't love it, but I think I understand it).
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link
Understand its influence, for better and worse.
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link
Perhaps, though "square one" for RHCP wasn't those particular four guys (and he doesn't say "THESE four guys in a room together..."). This ties into it being such a weirdly vacant-feeling quote, as if it's somehow missing every fourth or fifth word.not unlike Kiedis’ lyrics amiriteand while it pains me still, this is at least the third time that Frusciante has joined the band, and he pursues decidedly non-Chi-Pep musical interests during his interregna, so it plausibly does take the 3.1 musicians learning from scratch how to play together each time.(None of this lessens the quote’s qualifications for starring itt obv!)
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Saturday, 2 July 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link
stop taking acid.
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link
Also I really do think it's vanishingly rare for a huge band to track drums/bass/guitar live together these days (as RHCP does) , rather than layering them.
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 2 July 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link
Related--not sure where else to put it...Saw a trailer for this tonight before the Neil Young film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YRb0qY5eKc
The whole back-to-basics thing started in '68, but this really accelerated it.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2022 07:49 (one year ago) link
Geddy Lee was there and taking notes: "One day, God willing, I will honor Bo Diddley with 'The Temples of Syrinx.'"
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2022 07:52 (one year ago) link