Maybe not a terrible opinion/challops, but: games are more interesting when their primary inspirations aren't other games
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
Also, online multiplayer was a mistake
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
Which part of it? The games, or just the toxicity? Because I'm ok with online as long as there's no voice chat.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
Ledge's life tier list seems right to me, in terms of my normal day-to-day use of free time and what makes me feel better instead of worse, I think of it like "creating art > reading books > seeing friends > watching tv > playing videogames". Even though I really like playing a select few games, I generally feel the worst about my use of time if I spend too long doing it.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
xp I was half-kidding with that one. Mostly the toxicity, but also just the fact that in-person multiplayer is such a better social experience. To be fair though, online multiplayer is a nice thing to have when you're forced indoors due to a pandemic (for example).
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 5 November 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
it doesn't really make sense to me that games would be worse for your brain than tv but i guess i play a lot of puzzle games and rpg/strategy type games, maybe if you're just playing uncharted type stuff it's worse
― ciderpress, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
the only time online multiplayer is superior than local co-op is when it does things that are otherwise impossible, like a 100-player battle royale. otherwise, it is very much better to play with friends than strangers (unless your friends are also kids who keep their mic on all the time and are constantly arguing with their siblings)
― just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
I do feel that playing games is more active in terms of using my brain, but I mostly watch tv with my wife, so it's more of a shared experience that can generate discussion, etc. But I also feel better after watching something really engaging like say The Leftovers and doing some personal reflection, whereas playing games is more like going to the gym for my brain, a loop of quick thinking and reactions.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
The one time I remember playing a game all day - skyrim, from getting up to going to bed - I felt sordid and dirty. Possibly I've never watched TV for such a sustained period but I think that at its best TV (and films) can be as, ahem, improving, as literature, but all games teach you is how to play games. Sorry for old fashioned reithian ideas but this is a terrible opinions thread.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
That's total bs, dude, I just slayed a frost troll in the street the other day
― knuckleheaded mornonic bafoon (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
Yeah even though playing MtG Arena or a Dark Souls game is very mentally engaging, I feel strung out if I ever play for more than an hour.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
Don't agree with any of the ranking given above but it is as noted a terrible opinions thread
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
it's bad to break character because the central conceit of this thread is opinions that you kinda believe are indefensible but it's pretty fucking obvious that no aspect of culture is inherently less improving - lol - than another
― it isn't even a Fraktion (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 November 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
Mario Odyssey is a distinctly underwhelming experience, a bunch of eh decentish unexciting levels dragged down by the utterly terrible New Donk City part, that was all just utter bullshit
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 6 November 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link
New Donk City was a goddamn festival
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
atlus has only made one good game and it's radiant historia
― ciderpress, Saturday, 6 November 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link
Dino Riki is 10x better than 1942
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 November 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
smb3 is the worst game of all time
― just staying (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 November 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link
lol
― What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 November 2021 05:26 (two years ago) link
i just wanted to be terrible!
i haven't played dino riki, and the sad fact is that i've played 1943 more than 1942 :(
― just staying (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 November 2021 05:36 (two years ago) link
I've had it with these Hollywood celebrities. Keanu Reeves gets to sit in his car lobbing old chicken bones at people outside the shopping parade without a blind bit of notice. Me, I get arrested for farting on the bus. Unfair
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
Sorry, didn't realise this was ILG. Bit still
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 09:22 (two years ago) link
*but
What they should do about cut scenes: All these games should have an option to let you watch a whole bunch of extended cut scenes that explain the lore and backstory of the game while you eat your dinner, and then as soon as you're done, you just jump straight into the action.
I actually like cut scenes
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 6 November 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link
So as not to derail the Elden Ring thread... I don't know why I'm so sensitive to not enjoying sacred cows, I'm not that way anymore with other media nowadays. Maybe because I'm overconsuming a very monolithic slice of games criticism that constantly bangs on about the same bunch of games?
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Thursday, 24 February 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link
I could see how it would be annoying since the Souls games are critically beloved.
I, on the other hand, agree with thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38fjcyP1IQ
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 24 February 2022 22:40 (two years ago) link
Hah ha, fair enough. But for simpletons like me, running on a 20 year lag, this game (well the last game at least) is the stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 00:49 (two years ago) link
I'm not disagreeing with Dunkey there (after watching the video for 20 seconds), but I assume it glosses over a lot of what makes Horizon better than other open world games (that I've never played and probably will never play).
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Friday, 25 February 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
(I'm getting my terrible opinions out of my system.)
i can't listen to that cunt's voice
i can't vibe with From games tbh
― I have a voulez-vous? with death (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 February 2022 07:59 (two years ago) link
Dunkey's voice is quintessential "guy who is rude to fast food workers"
― Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 26 February 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link
i wd disagree with the 15 seconds of his premise that i hung in for anyway
i'd happily forever play iterations of games i already like with different stories and locations, innovation's fine but i don't think it matters much to lots of gamers
― I have a voulez-vous? with death (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 February 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
if your favorite band puts out a 5x LP you're probably overjoyed while the average person isn't interested in hearing the band's 20th through 50th best songs. open world games almost always feel like this unless the gameplay fundamentally makes use of distance and space (e.g. forza horizon). i don't think breath of the wild or elden ring are at all exempt here, theres just a lot of people whose favorite band is zelda or dark souls
― ciderpress, Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link
my favorite band is marble madness but the debut was too perfect to follow-up so they retired
― dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link
along the same line of reasoning, botw's world being so sparsely populated is actually an important part of why it was such a hit
― ciderpress, Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link
Disco Elysium as an exemplar of writing? IDGI, and don't feel the itch to ever play it again.
― Kira Nerys Witherspoon (Leee), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 04:11 (six months ago) link
Stories in videogames are maybe the worst and least interesting stories in the history of humans telling stories.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 04:38 (six months ago) link
You mean like on a PC? That would get annoying fast.
I actually like a lot of video game stories, and the immersion of playing them often lifts even the boilerplate stuff. I also find, just as no bad lyrics sink a great album but great lyrics make great albums better, that when you *do* come across great writing in video games, it makes an impact. I think of something like "Hades," an otherwise simple game which is really lifted by the quality (and quantity) of writing. "Red Dead Redemption 2" is an example of a relatively boilerplate story that is improved by the quality/quantity of writing. Or even "Hollow Knight," where the translated jibber-jabber of the characters give the (non) story more appeal, and your exploration more interest.
Though I'd argue both "Last of Us" games are elevated not really by the quality of the writing (which isn't bad) but the quality of the *acting*, which is especially unusual in video games.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 13:16 (six months ago) link