when did inverted look stop being the default?

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(So as not to hijack the 'terrible opinions' thread):

If you don't think "inverted look" is default your brain doesn't work properly; the lunatics have taken over the asylum

Obviously this is true but when my 5yo daughter is looking at photo thumbnails on the computer screen and says 'go up' she gets cross when i swipe up on the trackpad to see what's higher up, which scrolls the screen down.

And yet on my phone i swipe down to scroll the screen down - exactly the opposite, but both feel perfectly natural. In the computer screen (= inverted look), conceptually I'm moving my point of view of a static information field; on the phone (= non inverted) my POV is static and I'm moving the information field. So it's not that non inverted is fundamentally wrong but it would seem like its adherents have a different conception of the game world, it's something they move around not something they move around in.

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Friday, 5 November 2021 11:35 (two months ago) link

So maybe it's phones that caused the change. Inverted look (moving up to go down) doesn't make sense when you are effectively directly manipulating the information field, and if that's your first UI experience you then apply it across the board.

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Friday, 5 November 2021 11:40 (two months ago) link

Used to be fully inverted believer but past few years for some reason I totally hate it. It was definitely initially because I'd played flight sims a lot on 16 bit computers, then first person shooters on pc it just felt right. These days though, nope, up is up and down is down for me.

sorry for splitting.

Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Friday, 5 November 2021 11:43 (two months ago) link

mouselook games were never inverted look by default were they? it was a joystick thing

ciderpress, Friday, 5 November 2021 13:40 (two months ago) link

Hmm, you maybe right. In fact the first fps game I played on pc might have been Dark Forces where I used a flight stick to control - of course it was inverted and felt right.

Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:45 (two months ago) link

also possible that I played most of my fps and third person games on consoles, things like GTA3 etc

Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:48 (two months ago) link


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