Bad Chappelle Bits

Parker Molloy: https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/dave-chappelle-transgender

New from me: In his latest comedy special, Dave Chappelle said his trans friend was hounded into suicide by other trans people.
I couldn't find any evidence that it happened.
https://t.co/QhKbPsss6E

— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) November 17, 2021

guy seems pretty easily triggered

Dave Chappelle made a surprise stop to his former high school this week – and had a heated Q&A session with nearly 600 students about his Netflix special https://t.co/XYnhpCxYTp pic.twitter.com/8f3NTglVpY

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) November 25, 2021

One of his worst bits yet

Dave Chappelle personally came to a city council meeting and threatened to remove his $65m dollars of investments from his city if they allowed a developer to move forward with an affordable housing program. The objection wasn't to the build, but the affordable housing component. https://t.co/3ahCy1KqmN pic.twitter.com/l8MTxhhlJ7

— grimm (@ExileGrimm) February 9, 2022

He should be sliced to bits.

"hmm, don't think I've given people a large enough variety of reasons to hate me yet".

dudes about to get paid $10,000,000 for a standup special that's 2 jokes and a 50 minute rant about how poverty is a choice

and his fan base will grow to include more people that he might be alarmed are part of his fanbase if he actually gave a fuck about that anymore

2004: "fuck $50 million, my show may be inadvertently harming my own community, and that's more important to me"

2022: "Not in MY backyard!!!!"

It's just baffling.

Dave got old.

Rich dudes + weed usually = angry, parano rich a-holeness. Unless they're excellent musicians or something like that.

In the replies:

This is completely inaccurate. The objection is they are building it directly in his backyard, taking pictures of his home & using it as a selling point.
The PUD presented by Oberer planned for houses starting at $300k and up. Not affordable

torn between having absolutely no good faith left to give Chapelle and being skeptical of twitter news

(ok doing some digging those comments are bs, fuck Chapelle)

It’s amazing how low a person can fall.

It's always been weird & gross how much he clearly enjoys being the king of whatever that dumbass small town is that he lives in

"Traffic issues, a lack of parking ..." These are the kinds of BS objections people around here have raised every time a lower or mixed income or mixed use building has gone up over the past few years, and despite these fears never coming to fruition, afaict, they keep getting raised again and again.

On the other hand, calling $300k (reported starting price) homes "affordable housing" is a pretty big stretch. Maybe more affordable for *that* affluent exurb ... Anyway, Chappelle has burned through any benefit of the doubt - that's what being a professional asshole will get you - but I've yet to see a news story on this that delved deeper than clickbait cut-n-paste "Chappelle doesn't like poor people" headlines. From what I understand his main objection was not the idea of "affordable" housing but housing designed to attract more people like *him*, people with money that want to move or retire to a quaint blue town (pop. 4000) about 30 minutes outside of friggin' *Dayton* in the middle of red Ohio. And afaict, the development (single family homes) is still going forward, just in line with what had previously been agreed to rather than a more ambitious cash grab of duplexes and townhouses couched as "affordable housing." Like, I don't think we're talking Section 8 here.

Am I mishearing him in that lil speech or is he basically saying "I'm worth more than the developer company so you better side with me"?

thats what i got, too.

i dunno, ime people on chappelle's level dont make a massive distinction btw "section 8" and $300k home people

Dave's concern trolling of "guys this isn't really AFFORDABLE HOUSING" isn't cute

The rest of the development is going ahead, just not the affordable housing part. The houses going up are $300k not the proposed affordable ones.

Where did you see a proposed price on the "affordable" homes that got scuttled? Because I haven't seen that. (Not saying you're not right, just reemphasizing that I have seen very little actual reporting on this story).

Anyway, Chappelle is an asshole, but we're not talking Jimmy Carter coming in to hammer nails. This is a developer in a affluent and appealing exurb that wanted to change the zoning to allow them to build (and sell) significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict) houses to take advantage of a booming market. This is how they roll. They symbolically dangle out the prospect of affordable housing (and I think I did see they all but literally did this in the plan, offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future) while making bank off the bigger lots/homes.

I didn’t see a number on the affordable ones but the 150 single family homes are the $300k ones. That would, by necessity, make the cancelled affordable homes less than $300k.

Developer cynicism is correct but irrelevant here. The entire project didn’t get cancelled, just the townhomes/condos. The developer dangled affordable living and Dave & Co. got mad that the village council might make them a reality.

significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict)

Probably a topic for another thread, but: a combination of economy of scale and some baseline necessities means that smaller houses are not proportionally cheaper. If it has to have plumbing and electricity and hvac and a kitchen it's going to cost a chonk to build. Adding square footage is more costly but it's not linear. It may be the case that a 3,000 sq ft house costs twice what a 1,500 sq ft house costs, but other factors are at play.

In my neighborhood there is a tax structure that incentivizes developers to set aside x percent of units as "affordable" so that x percent can be market-rate. But the housing is (or supposed to be) all constructed at the same time by the same developer, comparable in quality, and all up to code. hence

offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future

is a bullshit move

Yeah. So this is the only close to reported story I've seen on this:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/video-yellow-springs-votes-no-on-housing-plan-after-chappelle-others-speak-up/WFSD7UXAYVECLOFCZPWU4IV4FE/

If I read the proposal right, the original plan was 143 single family homes, but the abandoned plan divided those homes between single-family and duplexes/townhomes, starting at mid-$200k (categorized as "high & moderate-income for sale + affordable types"), with, yes, "donated land for affordable housing."

Anyway, Chappelle is an asshole, but we're not talking Jimmy Carter coming in to hammer nails. This is a developer in a affluent and appealing exurb that wanted to change the zoning to allow them to build (and sell) significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict) houses to take advantage of a booming market. This is how they roll. They symbolically dangle out the prospect of affordable housing (and I think I did see they all but literally did this in the plan, offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future) while making bank off the bigger lots/homes.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

josh bringing the NIMBY solidarity

Anyway, Chappelle is an asshole, but we're not talking Jimmy Carter coming in to hammer nails. This is a developer in a affluent and appealing exurb that wanted to change the zoning to allow them to build (and sell) significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict) houses to take advantage of a booming market. This is how they roll. They symbolically dangle out the prospect of affordable housing (and I think I did see they all but literally did this in the plan, offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future) while making bank off the bigger lots/homes.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

josh bringing the NIMBY solidarity

even putting the affordable housing issue aside, it’s good to build houses in rich exurbs and bad when rich incumbent homeowners abuse the political process to stop it

All I know is that I drove through this part of Ohio over the summer and ... they can have it.

Crikey
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-04/dave-chapelle-tackled-during-hollywood-bowl-comedy-show

"Getting tackled by guy with knife" is pretty cutting edge.

I'm sure everybody will rush to blame Will Smith, who was the first person ever to attack or heckle a comedian in history

Well, I guess his martyr complex about being a besieged beacon of free speech or whatever will now be turned to solid stone.

First ever “the narrative demanded it” defense

nice of the LA Times to spend half the article talking about the trans stuff, in case any conservatives hadn't made the baseless connection yet

tbf sounds like Chappelle made the baseless connection first

"while the attacker was getting beat up,” Chappelle “made a joke about him probably being a Trans man.”

can't believe this guy used to actually be fun

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/04/dave-chappelle-other-fan-attacks

Dave Chappelle attack the latest in a trend of performers targeted onstage

It's a trend!

"Musicians Keith Richards, the late Amy Winehouse and Akon all also experienced fan incidents at their shows, per Rolling Stone."

wow. All this recently?

yes of course, you didn't hear about the late Amy Winehouse being attacked by a fan at one of her concerts that has taken place since the Will Smith incident, in this recent and alarming trend??!

I guess Drakeo the Ruler getting murdered at a concert didn't count because it happened off stage.

Jamie Foxx's Chappelle impersonation lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TvWBPJkMtw

I really hope this is the Akon "fan incident" they're referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vygxmr8iKmA

I guess Drakeo the Ruler getting murdered at a concert didn't count because it happened off stage.

also being assassinated by the LASD for exposing their corruption in court is a degree or two different from angering one listener with your material

my favorite part of tonight was when dave chappelle ambushed us at the john mulaney show, told a bunch of transphobic jokes, a massive stadium of people laughed, and then john mulaney hugged him at the end

— rylan ☻ (@testosteronejew) May 21, 2022

so is the trans shit like, his entire act now? what the fuck

I know people who've seen him a couple times at small gigs over the past month and it's mostly trans and woke jokes now

Yeah, it’s apparently his whole thing now. There was a thread on Twitter going around about his “surprise” appearance before Mulaney at Red Rocks last month that was all trans jokes, with some jokes about disabled people and apparently a mocking Chinese accent thing too. Fuck Mulaney for supporting this dude.

think Mulaney may have severely misjudged his own fanbase here

Guys who go down that hole don't come back.

Really disappointed in Mulaney, though.

with some jokes about disabled people

Specifically making fun of a disabled girl in the front row, and saying he assumed she had sex with her dog.

I pledge no anti trans weirdo surprise guests on my summer tour.

— Tim Heidecker (@timheidecker) May 21, 2022