jean vigo?
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
No Wes Anderson, but given his pitiful showing in the Director's Poll (and no actual French Dispatch thread), I assume ILX's love affair w/him is OVAH.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
I still enjoy his stuff but yeah he's not needed here.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
Jane Campion?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
have an expectation wenders will (incorrectly) place
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
Darren AronofskyLouis MalleMike LeighDavid CronenbergWong Kar-WaiNicholas Roegall yet to place?
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
no chance of any Antonioni now I would guess
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
I'm guessing one Wong, with the others I'm not sure there's a consensus pick that would push them into the top 25.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
Mizoguchi, I hope
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
Don’t think we’ve had Howard Hawks or Billy Wilder?Werner Herzog and Elia Kazan two others on my list that we haven’t seen
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
Alfonso Cuaron
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
hideaki anno
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
Michael Winner
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
Frederick Wiseman. (0%)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
<< TSWA>>
I *loathe* this Paul Newman/Joanne Woodward film!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
I have seen Dielman. Interesting experiment. Much better as something to think back upon than as something to be sitting through.
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
Bill hated porn but I chagrined none will place unless Jurassic Park counts.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
If a director made 10 equally beloved films, they're 90% less likely than a single-film director to fill one of the slots in this poll.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link
― adam t. (abanana),
another lonely woman, albeit Belgian
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
are there personifications of Isolation and Anxiety and do they punch each other
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link
Is humping each other acceptable?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
Wilder likely to place two, I'd guess
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain)
We think so in the gay thread.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link
C. Grisso, what would Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn say about the results so far?
save us, eric
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link
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25. SUNSET BLVD. (Billy Wilder, 1950, USA) [942.5 points; 12 votes; 1 first-place vote]S&S: 61 | TSPDT: 33 | BOXD: 33
MORBS SEZ: "Sunset Blvd: a fun Hollywood vampire movie overrated by the feygelehs … and Manny Farber pointed out the sledgehammer obviousness of the store clerk's 'WELL, IF THE LADY IS PAYING' leer as a bad moment."Sunset Blvd. if only for von Stroheim and the chimpanzee funeral.― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:55 AMsunset boulevard's funnier than like 90% of these movies― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, March 5, 2012 11:52 AMSunset Boulevard is more on the thriller side of the spectrum, but one of the most high profile; Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is probably the epitome of that trope on the horror end.― emil.y, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:44 PMSunset Boulevard, to me, is maybe a bit overrated but pretty great anyway; Mulholland Drive is one the most self-parodic bits of claptrap I think I've ever seen (which I say as a big fan of Blue Velvet and much of Twin Peaks). It would never even occur to me to pair them in a poll, there's such a qualitative imbalance, although I can see where's a thematic connection.― clemenza, Monday, October 19, 2009 5:48 PMI liked Nancy Olson as a counterpart to Gloria Swanson― Dan S, Friday, April 10, 2020 7:17 PMBuster Keaton saying "pass" is one of my very favorite things in Sunset Blvd.― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:09 PMThe confident over-reliance on voice-over has always smothered Sunset Boulevard for me.― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:45 AM"It was all very queer. But queerer things were yet to come..."― flappy bird, Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:24 AM
Sunset Blvd. if only for von Stroheim and the chimpanzee funeral.― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:55 AM
sunset boulevard's funnier than like 90% of these movies― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, March 5, 2012 11:52 AM
Sunset Boulevard is more on the thriller side of the spectrum, but one of the most high profile; Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is probably the epitome of that trope on the horror end.― emil.y, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:44 PM
Sunset Boulevard, to me, is maybe a bit overrated but pretty great anyway; Mulholland Drive is one the most self-parodic bits of claptrap I think I've ever seen (which I say as a big fan of Blue Velvet and much of Twin Peaks). It would never even occur to me to pair them in a poll, there's such a qualitative imbalance, although I can see where's a thematic connection.― clemenza, Monday, October 19, 2009 5:48 PM
I liked Nancy Olson as a counterpart to Gloria Swanson― Dan S, Friday, April 10, 2020 7:17 PM
Buster Keaton saying "pass" is one of my very favorite things in Sunset Blvd.― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, October 5, 2017 1:09 PM
The confident over-reliance on voice-over has always smothered Sunset Boulevard for me.― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:45 AM
"It was all very queer. But queerer things were yet to come..."― flappy bird, Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:24 AM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
one of the greatest movies
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
DON: Cinema was and is a very important inspiration to us as Artists. We spent countless hours in dark screening rooms reviewing films like Grand Hotel, Psycho, and Touch of Evil as prep work for the writing of our classic Hotel California album.
GLENN: Orson Welles taught us there was more to the concept of a 'Touch of Evil' than whatever was happening between Lois Chiles and ol' Deep, I mean Golden Throat over here after the show!
DON: Well, yeah.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
morbz otm, it's a great watch but not sure it quite lives up to it's shadow
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
One of the most surreal aspects of the Trump rallies was when he'd lapse into one of his campy reveries - "Whatever happened to movies like Sunset Boulevard" - and the mutants would have to recalibrate and figure out how they were going to go along with this one.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
President Norma Desmond
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link
hollywood vampire movie has a big shadow cos it is great imo
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
^agree
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
That shot of Holden hauling himself out of the pool, my god
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
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24. IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE (Wong Kar-wai, 2000, Hong Kong) [952.55 points; 11 votes]S&S: 33 | TSPDT: 42 | BOXD: 37
MORBS SEZ: "I didn't find much 'emotion' in In the Mood for Love. I liked the whistles and bells in [2046] more, and preferred its view of 'love' -- more meanness and random kindness / cruelty."I just want to gush about how gorgeous In the Mood For Love is, which I just finished watching again.― sleep (sleep), Monday, December 12, 2005 9:22 PMWe have paved the way for the American remake of In the Mood for Love starring Ice-T and Alan Cumming.― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, January 20, 2003 3:12 PMEw now I'm getting mental images of In the Mood for Love with Stiller and Jack Black as the leads.― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:46 PM I am a big WKW fan, but I am one of the only people I know who didn't enjoy In The Mood For Love.― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:21 PMI'm the other. I keep telling myself it's because I saw it on a small TV screen on video and wasn't able to enjoy the "sumptuous" cinematography.― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:00 PMIn the Mood for Love works on a 13" set! You were watching a color TV, right?― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, September 12, 2005 11:43 AMit's fairly boring (though at the same time beautiful).― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:04 PMWow, In the Mood For Love is the most crushing movie I've ever seen, perhaps.― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:07 PMIn The Mood For Love is fine, but not a patch on earlier Wong. Best movie of the century for any of them, no....― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:00 AMFinally got around to In the Mood for Love and yeah it's gorgeous but a bit of a snooze and frustrating - just do it already!― i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:26 AM
I just want to gush about how gorgeous In the Mood For Love is, which I just finished watching again.― sleep (sleep), Monday, December 12, 2005 9:22 PM
We have paved the way for the American remake of In the Mood for Love starring Ice-T and Alan Cumming.― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, January 20, 2003 3:12 PM
Ew now I'm getting mental images of In the Mood for Love with Stiller and Jack Black as the leads.― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:46 PM
I am a big WKW fan, but I am one of the only people I know who didn't enjoy In The Mood For Love.― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:21 PM
I'm the other. I keep telling myself it's because I saw it on a small TV screen on video and wasn't able to enjoy the "sumptuous" cinematography.― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:00 PM
In the Mood for Love works on a 13" set! You were watching a color TV, right?― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, September 12, 2005 11:43 AM
it's fairly boring (though at the same time beautiful).― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:04 PM
Wow, In the Mood For Love is the most crushing movie I've ever seen, perhaps.― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:07 PM
In The Mood For Love is fine, but not a patch on earlier Wong. Best movie of the century for any of them, no....― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:00 AM
Finally got around to In the Mood for Love and yeah it's gorgeous but a bit of a snooze and frustrating - just do it already!― i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:26 AM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
was fairly nonplussed about this when i saw it, but at this point my stance is firmly "the emperor has no clothes and too much slow motion"
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
Don't like the only Wong I've seen (Chungking Express) but will give this one a go.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link
have seen it 3 or 4 times now and it seems deeper and more complex with each viewing
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
This is the spot Chungking Express had on my ballot.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
as I mentioned in another thread, it's a compressed, complicated story that advances in largely shorthand scenes with unexpected moments that are suddenly intimately expanded
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link
also a lot of content dealing with time and memory, with presaging or echoing of certain moments and the replaying of scenes with a different perspective
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
...also the use of multiple different frame rates, overcranking, step-printing, different exposures
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
Yep, there's the "one Wong." I love Wong to pieces so my only beef with In the Mood is that it sucks up oxygen from other things I love, like Chungking Express (which I also voted for), 2046, and Ashes of Time. I can understand knocking it as "just" a style exercise, but I think in Wong in a lot of ways style is content. (If this wallpaper could speak ...)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link
(my top 25 vote for In the Mood was really kind of a collective Wong vote, but I knew that was the one that would make the chart)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link
it's definitely worth watching on a big screen
Chungking Express is also great. I remember liking Happy Together, but it's been a long time since I've seen it
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
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23. ALIEN (Ridley Scott, 1979, USA) [983.75 points; 12 votes]S&S: 265 | TSPDT: 111 | BOXD: 78
MORBS SEZ: "Alien bored and disgusted me in high school (but it's FEMINIST lol) … Alien was shown in big-screen glory at Lincoln Center today, and in honor of this thread, I didn't go."Alien did terrify me when it came out, but whatever it is that brings me back to a horror film once the scares are registered, that was missing.― clemenza, Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:15 PMthat maternal subtext is HUGE and significantly complicates the subtext of the first (ripley defending her womanhood against the asexual rapaciousness of the alien and the asexual murderous logic of the android) the sexual subtexts are easily the best thing about the alien movies - why else have giger design the shit?― vahid (vahid), Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:19 PMEven though Ridley considers the theatrical cut his "director's cut," I think Alien does benefit from exactly two additions in the longer cut: The scene where they listen to the alien beacon, which is an amazing piece of sound design; and the longer version of Harry Dean Stanton's death, where Kotto and Weaver run in at the end and his blood splashes down on them.― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:19 PMalien is my comfort movie― i am not an idle hunter-gatherer, i am a scientist (rrrobyn), Friday, November 14, 2008 4:19 PMI think it is a.) the greatest monster movie ever, and b.) better at being the best-ever in its category than any of the other best-ever category contenders that I've seen (important caveat). Its real leap (beyond its amazing design and conception) was dispatching with the superfluous hero and boiling the story down to monster vs. damsel. IN SPACE! Seriously, I think it's one of the greatest movies ever made. I don't know how you could improve it.― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:23 PMAlien a satisfyingly canonical non-canonical pick.― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:14 PMI am the HR Giger of cock.― Snappy (sexyDancer), Monday, February 7, 2005 7:39 PM
Alien did terrify me when it came out, but whatever it is that brings me back to a horror film once the scares are registered, that was missing.― clemenza, Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:15 PM
that maternal subtext is HUGE and significantly complicates the subtext of the first (ripley defending her womanhood against the asexual rapaciousness of the alien and the asexual murderous logic of the android) the sexual subtexts are easily the best thing about the alien movies - why else have giger design the shit?― vahid (vahid), Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:19 PM
Even though Ridley considers the theatrical cut his "director's cut," I think Alien does benefit from exactly two additions in the longer cut: The scene where they listen to the alien beacon, which is an amazing piece of sound design; and the longer version of Harry Dean Stanton's death, where Kotto and Weaver run in at the end and his blood splashes down on them.― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:19 PM
alien is my comfort movie― i am not an idle hunter-gatherer, i am a scientist (rrrobyn), Friday, November 14, 2008 4:19 PM
I think it is a.) the greatest monster movie ever, and b.) better at being the best-ever in its category than any of the other best-ever category contenders that I've seen (important caveat). Its real leap (beyond its amazing design and conception) was dispatching with the superfluous hero and boiling the story down to monster vs. damsel. IN SPACE! Seriously, I think it's one of the greatest movies ever made. I don't know how you could improve it.― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:23 PM
Alien a satisfyingly canonical non-canonical pick.― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:14 PM
I am the HR Giger of cock.― Snappy (sexyDancer), Monday, February 7, 2005 7:39 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
I'm chagrined that Nathaniel Dorsky, Roberta Findlay, and Teo Hernandez will not make the top 25.
P. S. That's a lie. This poll has been lots of fun. I've been watching some of the more remote-to-me titles lately. Tonight's The Mirror. Rewatched North by Northwest recently and it went so poorly that it made me feel like one of Hitchcock's dreaded plausibles. But a provocative essay in Lee Edelman's No Future: Queer Theory and the Death Drive is opening it back up. Reads Landau as the agent of reproductive futurism's destruction.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
Today probably would've been a "bye thread" day for old Morbsy.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
Reads Landau as the agent of reproductive futurism's destruction.
that's the line in Landau's resume.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
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― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link