ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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is it 'Jobs'?

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

well since there's time to kill...

S tier: green ray, tree mayor and the mediatheque, l'amie de mon amie, marquis of o, aviators wife, last night at mauds, perceval
A tier: tale of autumn, reinette and mirabelle, love in the afternoon, claire's knee, suzannes career, pauline on the beach, astree & celadon
B tier: triple agent, tale of winter, tale of summer full moon in paris, rendezvous in paris
C tier: the lady and the duke, a good marriage, sign of leo, collectioneuse, tale of springtime, bakery girl

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link

and appearance as 'the balzacien' in out 1 is, of course, essential

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

What does the S in S tier mean? I know it's good, but...

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

^^^Same Question. Shay d'oovre?

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

star, i've always assumed. idk it's a video game thing

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

Smasterpiece.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

<<star, i've always assumed. idk it's a video game thing>>

Wait - what does that mean? A star is better than an A?

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

The Hague

Meh

Sound, Solid

Good to Great

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

didnt want to infringe upon yr trademark alfred

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

"s tier" has always meant "shit tier" afaia

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

Tiers are not enough.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

Shittier than what?

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

(some zings from ILX's own Northern Lights right there)

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

I'm lost so I'll move on to say that this thread inspired me to watch Pierrot le Fou for the first time in eons and I loved every nanosecond of it, Belmondo's slip-on shoes most of all. S for Sexy Tier!

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

(xpost) Speaking of which...I think Cronenberg (and therefore Canada) is going to be shut out. I'd be surprised if he shows up this high.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

Is there a consensus Cronenberg? I voted for The Dead Zone, but I don't see that placing how.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

*now

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

Maybe Dead Ringers? The Dead Zone is my favourite too, but I didn't vote for it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

Yes, the consensus is that Crash is one of the ten best films of the 1990s. I agree!

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

re hong / rohmer. rohmer is def his daddy, but i think main difference is where rohmer was exploring the way cinema could advance existing literary traditions of narrative, particularly a sort of 19th c philosophical novel, hong is wrapped up in new possibilities of narrative engagement that can only exist in the moving image, and having the philosophy embodied in the structure rather than content.

― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a great post that only leaves out how much funnier hong is

plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

xp Would have to be Videodrome.

Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Crash is solidly S Tier--silly!

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

I definitely didn't vote for anything named Crash.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

Maybe Videodrome, maybe even The Fly. That's why he won't place--there isn't one.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

re hong / rohmer. rohmer is def his daddy, but i think main difference is where rohmer was exploring the way cinema could advance existing literary traditions of narrative, particularly a sort of 19th c philosophical novel, hong is wrapped up in new possibilities of narrative engagement that can only exist in the moving image, and having the philosophy embodied in the structure rather than content.

― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a great post that only leaves out how much funnier hong is

― plax (ico), Tuesday, November 2, 2021

I agree -- terrific post.

I won't rank them on a laugh-o-meter, but Hong's humor is as situational as Rohmer's, maybe even more reliant on po-faced characters taking their addled observations as seriously?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

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28. DOG DAY AFTERNOON (Sidney Lumet, 1975, USA) [901.25 points; 12 votes]
S&S: 418 | TSPDT: 286 | BOXD: 159

MORBS SEZ: "Watched Dog Day for the first time in eons on Friday -- really amazing neorealist texture, the quintessence of '70s New York (ie, better than Mean Streets or Taxi Driver). Possibly Pacino's peak, and I didn't realize Judith Malina and Lance Henriksen had small meaty roles."

search: dog day afternoon
destroy: the rest
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:14 PM

dog day afternoon x10000000
― and what, Friday, April 6, 2007 1:44 PM

I rewatched Dog Day Afternoon last weekend and it is perfect
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 30, 2019 1:35 AM

awesome story, Pacino's best role, John Cazale v. good as well, shocking ending too.
― Ludo, Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:07 AM

Went with Dog Day Afternoon without thinking about it. Having thought about it, I stand by that choice.
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:13 PM

Dog Day Afternoon is one of Lumet's better efforts. Not saying much but voila.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:54 AM

Dog Day Afternoon is kinda a Marx Brothers movie for the 70s.
― fistula pumping action (sarahel), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:50 PM

asthma inhalers in movies
The bank manager in Dog Day Afternoon has an asthma attack, I can't remember if there's an inhaler though.
― sandy, Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 PM

I'm enjoying his book Making Movies and how much he hates teamsters.
― flappy bird, Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:01 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

had a Cronenberg film not yet mentioned ITT at #12, it will not place

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

i like Dog Day Afternoon fine but really?

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

Didn't vote for it--I think it really tails off the last half-hour or so--but I like that it's this high. Right there with Almost Famous for the best use of Elton John in a movie.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

Dog Day Afternoon deserves this placing, for the reasons given above, will be very happy if it has beaten Taxi Driver.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

DOG DAY AFTERNOON is a cool entry, personally I would have some other films I’d wish would be on this list to represent that vibe (eg, if THE KING OF COMEDY doesn’t place I’ll be sad), but there’s not really anything to dislike about the movie and pacino is great

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

We’ve had king of comedy!

siffleur’s mom (wins), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Pacino's best work. Maybe the only time a Lumet film, you know, moves, or, rather, has a sense of rhythm.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

oh we did lol

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

I'd swap Dog Day Afternoon's and King of Comedy's rankings tbh.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

Even more than "Attica! Attica!", I think Cazale's hair and hangdog demeanor are the film's most brilliant creations.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

Didn’t vote for it, although I did reference it on maybe my second post on this thread.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

I finally saw PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK recently and man, pacino was such a good actor in the 70s

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

Love Dog Day Afternoon. One thing about its '70s NYC vibe that sets it apart from Scorsese is its sense of the ridiculous. The movie feels as energized by the city as threatened by it.

otm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

Not sure if anyone else saw The Dog, but it was pretty good. As I remember it, John Wojtowicz revels in the celebrity the film brought to him.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

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27. JEANNE DIELMAN, 23 QUAI DU COMMERCE, 1080 BRUXELLES (Chantal Akerman, 1975, Belgium) [906 points; 9 votes]
S&S: 51 | TSPDT: 85 | BOXD: 130

MORBS SEZ: "None of Akerman's other films have approached Jeanne Dielman for me, though i like several (La Captive, Golden Eighties, Into the East) … and i will slap down anyone who points to DL's "18-hour movie" quote, bcz what is the Mary Tyler Moore Show besides a 90-hour expansion of Jeanne Dielman?"

Jeanne Dielman in the top 40 is a very pleasant surprise.
― jed_, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 3:21 PM

Is there a better film than Jeanne Dielman?
― i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, January 18, 2018 7:40 PM

It took me three days to get through Jeanne Dielman.
― jmm, Thursday, January 18, 2018 6:40 PM

I don't think Jeanne Dielmann towers above her other films, although it is hard to imagine a film that could so successful bring together so many of the themes of 2nd wave feminism in such a sharpened way.
― plax (ico), Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:00 AM

I'm gonna go watch Jeanne dielman to purge myself of my populist leanings
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, November 16, 2009 8:26 AM

was GONNA ask a guy out to see 'jeanne dielman' but we broke it off before that could happen (this particular guy would've been game, i imagine)
― naches supreme (donna rouge), Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:54 AM

Not only did I not get a date to see Jeanne Dielman, I didn't get to see Jeanne Dielman!
― Casuistry, Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:40 PM

Sure its her best film but the overall body of work is just immense (Tout Une Nuit is as good btw, but sure it doesn't capture a time like Jeanne Dielman does). La Captive is the only Proust adaptation worth watching. Golden Eighties is a beautiful send-up-as-love-letter to the musical (iirc given a kind of feminist makeover that works), her films on Pina Bausch and Plath are some of the few films that capture modern dance (and makes Wenders' film on the same subject to be vastly inferior) and the struggles of making anything -- never mind anything good -- come alive. I loved how a more avant-garde framing/video content is pulled into films as varied as the opening of the iron curtain (D'Est) to an exploration of her relationshp with her mother (No Home Movie, the best film of that year). Many more aspects to expore in her work.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, January 19, 2018 8:23 AM

DUDE FUCKIN JEANNE DIELMAN
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, May 5, 2006 11:47 PM

He'd better watch his back.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, May 5, 2006 11:51 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

Watching it for the third time during pandemic was better than therapy.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

this film deserves a better list

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

although at least we have it higher than sight and sound

devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

"A lonely Belgian woman comes to terms with her isolation and anxieties while staying home."

Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

zzzz

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

i still haven't see this but afaic chantal akerman is the best filmmaker of all time. (none of her films made my list bc i feel like i have yet to see my favorite)

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

NARRATOR: He will.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link


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