ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

I gave Anatolia a longlist vote so that's not true! xps

Some of us reacting now to Jurassic Park being the new de facto Spielberg center-of-gravity the same way Dwight MacDonald reacted to positive reviews of The Birds.

xp fair enough; you might have been the only one then ... for sure Showgirls had only super high votes

the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.

Yeah, but that interacts with the other effect you mentioned, where high numbers of votes means more bonus 10s.

800 points unweighted across 10 voters comes to 1140 points, across 15 voters comes to 1110 points, across 20 voters comes to 1120. Which are obviously not big deals, just mathematically interesting.

If there's any filmmakers out there watching us tonight wondering how to game the system, my advice is to pay this no mind, and just add more dinosaurs.

JP too low obv, spielberg’s most personal film.

xp let's see if that advice worked for Tree of Life.

Toy Story has a dinosaur...

I was wondering if any other animations would show up.

xps I'm no master statistician (or an accountant) but I tried a few different variations before settling on a formula that found the happy medium between accounting for the percentage of top-tier votes and completely jettisoning a lot of films that landed in the top 100 on points alone

If it's given us Ceylan, it'll do for me

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53. THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (Tobe Hooper, 1974, USA) [788.13 points; 8 votes]
S&S: 237 | TSPDT: 179 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I first saw it in the last 10 years, and the theater was rocking with laughter."

i had never seen the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and i started it last night...and i had to turn it off. it was totally making me paranoid.
― the table is the table, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:24 AM

I have lived my entire life being afraid of seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
― Sara R-C, Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:04 PM

Leatherface's first appearance from behind the sheet metal door is easily one of the top five horror shots of all time. Masterfully executed.
― the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:33 AM

The worst scene in Texas Chainsaw is where the girl gets out of the house, runs down the porchsteps, the Texas sky is so blue, and nope, Leatherface catches her and takes her back into the house.
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:40 AM

i've watched tcm so many times that the jump scares have lost a little impact (though yeah, masterfully executed), but what has never dulled for me is the unbearably...filthy vibe of the whole thing.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:51 AM

is there any better masterclass in scream-acting than Marilyn Burns (RIP) btw? holy God, she gets everything right, the shrieks, the mannerisms, the facial expressions, the hysterical laughing at the end.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:24 PM

(everyone else actively wanted Franklin to get killed, wheelchair or no wheelchair, right?)
― it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:06 PM

knowing the circumstances around the actors experiences in TCM makes lars von triers notable abuse of actors seem kinda huggalovable
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:09 PM

Pretty much everyone on that crew vomited once; some had to be hospitalized after they lit a bunch of dead dog carcasses on fire out back and the smoke seeped into the set.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:16 PM

I heard they did this on the set of Tom Hanks' "The Terminal" but they were professionals about it and walked it off.
― The Thnig, Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:17 PM

why would anyone set a bunch of dead dog carcasses on fire
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:20 PM

just another Friday at the quarry
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:21 PM

I love that this and JP are back to back, as I've long thought that Spielberg (who has a history with Hooper, recall) intended the final shot of the T-rex roaring triumphantly at the end of JP as a deliberate echo of TCMs closing shot.

oh shit

the best movie ever made, and nothing compares to seeing it in a theater

gonna limit my "what about this entirely sublime moment in jurassic park"s itt to one so everyone can move on. it's the way that the blurry image of the dinosaur, buried skeletal object of desire inaccessible except thru the media of technology and geological memory, flickers and vanishes the moment alan grant's fingertips brush the monitor glass, and then later this happens:

https://i.imgur.com/eiTlLHl.gif

pure cinema

crypto def otm

I only saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre for the first time not long ago. Its rep had always attracted/repelled me. I thought it was pretty great, and (sometimes at least) funnier than I expected. Nobody ever told me it had a vegetarian agenda. Didn't vote for it, but I respect its place in the canon. I have no complaints about Jurassic Park, really, but voted for a different Spielberg popcorn epic.

I highly recommend this discussion of TCM between John Darnielle and Walter Chaw if you are a fan of any or all of those:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA4d4sr4YCk

One of the reasons I'm inclined to believe the Spielberg Poltergeist myth is there's no shot in that film as beautiful and pure as the chainsaw in the sunset scene

Disbelieve lol excuse me thumbs

Still firmly in the Poltergeist represents the best of both worlds camp.

Well, aside from Texas Chain Saw Massacre and A.I. both being better than Poltergeist.

I was rewatching a bit the other night on one of the subscriber stations here. Couldn't believe how cleaned-up the outdoor scenes were; I thought back to the first time I saw it, some godawful print in the late '70s. It looked like Days of Heaven all of a sudden. (Hey, Dune makers: the grimmest films can also be wildly funny at moments.)

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52. NOTORIOUS (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946, USA) [793.63 points; 8 votes]
S&S: 200 | TSPDT: 139 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I do like it, but no it's not creme de la creme … Goddammit, my last post was sposed to go on the REBECCA thread! … and since i don't care how ilx votes on anything BACK TO HITCHCOCK"

man cary and ingrid are hotttt together.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:39 PM

Notorious might be my favorite movie ever. Ingrid Bergman is so so so amazing in it.
― horseshoe, Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:40 PM

the interesting thing about Notorious is that you're not quite sure who you ought to be rooting for. Cary Grant's character is a bit of a bastard, and Claude Rains's Nazi agent is strangely sympathetic, especially at the end of the film.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, January 8, 2004 2:10 PM

Of course "Notorious" was a big hit here, though my daughter has gotten kind of annoyed at all these films where more or less the instant the male and female leads meet they are magically "in love." The best I could come up with is that in the era they had to be "in love" to make the romance morally acceptable, because god forbid the affair be an actual casual fling.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:58 PM

On that tip, you should tell her about why the big kiss scene is so broken up and stretched out.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:26 PM

It's one of the few Hollywood films of the period -- or ever -- to understand sex and what men expect from women who enjoy it as much as they do.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, September 6, 2007 8:41 PM

I may give Notorious another shot, but I found it kinda boring.
― billstevejim, Monday, June 9, 2014 9:31 AM

Years ago, I read/heard someone relate the following (paraphrased) anecdote: "I was in the street with Hitchcock one day when a beautiful, well-dressed young woman walked by. After she passed, he turned to me and whispered: 'Wouldn't you just love to smear shit in her face?'"
― Alba, Thursday, September 6, 2007 11:51 AM

"Actors should be treated like cattle. Women should be treated like toilets."
― kenan, Thursday, September 6, 2007 12:33 PM

I don't auto hate Spielberg and I don't disagree but that one shot trumps all

know what josh’s daughter is referring to in general but don’t find the relash in notorious artificial or hastened, except in the ways that it is diagetically artificial and hastened (because secretly a recruitment). they have chemistry immediately but that’s chemistry. after spending some time together under exotic pressure they fall in love, which is experienced mostly as a problem.

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51. PSYCHO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960, USA) [793.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 36 | TSPDT: 22 | BOXD: 64

MORBS SEZ: "The first time I stole away to NYC on my own as a teenager was to see Psycho at a revival house … per Robin Wood, I think of Psycho as the cinematic equivalent of Hamlet as much as a proto-slasher film."

Psycho is easily the best "b-movie" of all time.
― kenan, Monday, September 3, 2007 8:53 PM

I watched Psycho again recently and had forgotten just how funny it was in places.
― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:50 AM

i watched psycho recently for the 1st time in years. definite classic. theres a quote on the wiki where hitch gives 33% of the credit of it working to the music. honestly, that might be underselling it imo
― johnny crunch, Friday, June 1, 2012 8:20 AM

Wicker Man beating this is some bullshit
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:56 PM

I love this movie but I have to say it loses steam between the detective getting killed and the climax - the boyfriend is such a stiff (and Hitchcock wasn't very fond of the actor either, according to IMDB).
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, March 8, 2010 11:18 AM

shrink near the end saying "Yes...aaaaand no!" has brought the house down every time i saw this in a theater. that whole sequence is unfortunate.
― zvookster, Sunday, March 7, 2010 5:25 PM

my parents saw Psycho on a date without knowing much about it and it scarred my mother to the point where she almost cries at any type of jump scare
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:57 PM

the actual final sequence - of norman wearing the shawl and speaking in the voice of mother - is possibly the film's creepiest moment (especially when hitchcock superimposes the skull over norman's face.) the very last shot, the car being dragged from the swamp, is both a piece of incredibly economical storytelling and an image full of possibilities and dread
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, June 5, 2010 6:10 PM

I'd agree it's impact is different now than in 1960, most everybody now who watches Psycho for the first time will have seen a dozen spoofs of the shower scene before they ever see the original. Don't get how the editing is hokey, I feel like it strains for effect a lot less than plenty of other self-conscious stylists. If there's any shock in the scene, then or now, it relies more on what hm just implied - Marion is a rounded character by that point in the movie, certainly more so than a lot of the teen cyphers in post-Psycho slashers. I think part of what's still disorienting about the scene is the way Hitchcock's technique almost works against what is being portrayed - a brutal murder becoming abstract and symbolic which is kinda like some Greek tragedy going down - not that I think Hitch is referencing that at all.
― Tibetan 'buca the Dead (Noodle Vague), Sunday, March 7, 2010 3:36 PM

100. ROSEMARY'S BABY (Roman Polanski, Roman 1968, USA) [620 points; 10 votes]
99. LA JETÉE (Chris Marker, Chris 1962, France) [623.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]
98. MY NEIGHBOUR TOTORO (Miyazaki Hayao, 1988, Japan) [623.9 points; 10 votes]
97. SEVEN SAMURAI (Kurosawa Akira, 1954, Japan) [624.67 points; 9 votes]
96. MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON (Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid, 1943, USA) [625.71 points; 7 votes]
95. SHOWGIRLS (Paul Verhoeven, 1995, USA) [628 points; 4 votes]
94. ONCE UPON A TIME IN ANATOLIA (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011, Turkey) [636 points; 6 votes]
93. ERASERHEAD (David Lynch, 1977, USA) [636.9 points; 10 votes]
92. THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972, USA) [643.4 points; 10 votes]
91. LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD (Alain Resnais, 1961, France) [645.82 points; 11 votes]

90. MANDY (Panos Cosmatos, 2018, USA) [646.5 points; 8 votes]
89. THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Rob Reiner, 1984, USA) [650.91 points; 11 votes]
88. JOHNNY GUITAR (Nicholas Ray, 1954, USA) [651 points; 6 votes]
87. THE SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE (Victor Erice, 1973, Spain) [652 points; 8 votes]
86. A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Edward Yang, 1991, Taiwan) [655.5 points; 6 votes; 1 first-place vote]
85. THE LADY EVE (Preson Sturges, 1941, USA) [656.4 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
84. CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING (Jacques Rivette, 1974, France) [658.57 points; 7 votes]
83. THE KING OF COMEDY (Martin Scorsese, 1983, USA) [659.82 points; 11 votes; Morbs gold]
82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]
81. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946, USA) [661.63 points; 8 votes]

80. CALIFORNIA SPLIT (Robert Altman, 1974, USA) [663 points; 6 votes]
79. UNDER THE SKIN (Jonathan Glazer, 2014, UK) [665 points; 12 votes]
78. THE WICKER MAN (Robin Hardy, 1973, UK) [668.5 points; 8 votes]
77. THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (Sergio Leone, 1966, Italy) [670 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
76. DAISIES (Vera Chytilová, 1966, Czechoslovakia) [674.29 points; 7 votes; 1 first-place vote]
75. THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE (John Ford, 1962, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]
74. DAYS OF HEAVEN (Terrence Malick, 1978, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; 1 first-place vote]
73. BEING JOHN MALKOVICH (Spike Jonze, 1999, USA) [700.6 points; 10 votes]
72. PIERROT LE FOU (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965, France) [705 points; 6 votes]
71. MIRROR (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975, USSR) [708.38 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]

70. M (Fritz Lang, 1931, Germany) [708.67 points; 9 votes]
69. THE LIFE AND DEATH OF COLONEL BLIMP (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger, 1943, UK) [715.71 points; 7 votes]
68. CRUMB (Terry Zwigoff, 1994, USA) [716.63 points; 8 votes]
67. PULP FICTION (Quentin Tarantino, 1994, USA) [717.5 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
66. TOUCH OF EVIL (Orson Welles, 1958, USA) [719.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote]
65. 3 WOMEN (Robert Altman, 1977, USA) [725.3 points; 10 votes]
64. BACK TO THE FUTURE (Robert Zemeckis, 1985, USA) [728.55 points; 11 votes]
63. ALI: FEAR EATS THE SOUL (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1974, West Germany) [729.2 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
62. THE MALTESE FALCON (John Huston, 1941, USA) [733.1 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
61. AU HASARD BALTHAZAR (Robert Bresson, 1966, France) [734.91 points; 11 votes]

60. SUNRISE: A SONG OF TWO HUMANS (F.W. Murnau, 1927, USA) [752.6 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
59. SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK (Charlie Kaufman, 2008, USA) [768.67 points; 9 votes]
58. GROUNDHOG DAY (Harold Ramis, 1993, USA) [772.46 points; 13 votes]
57. IMITATION OF LIFE (Douglas Sirk, 1959, USA) [774 points; 6 votes]
56. THE 400 BLOWS (François Truffaut, 1959, France) [779.33 points; 9 votes]
55. THE GRADUATE (Mike Nichols, 1967, USA) [783.33 points; 9 votes]
54. JURASSIC PARK (Steven Spielberg, 1993, USA) [786 points; 9 votes]
53. THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (Tobe Hooper, 1974, USA) [788.13 points; 8 votes]
52. NOTORIOUS (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946, USA) [793.63 points; 8 votes]
51. PSYCHO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960, USA) [793.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]

(Ugh, imagine a Morbs silver on Psycho.)

Good batch today; the first where I've seen all 10.

Two from my own top 20, and also a couple that wouldn't be in my top 5,000.

are we continuing tomorrow or having a break until Monday?

Going to do just five each Saturday and Sunday and then pick up from there, wrapping Thursday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftOCvwrygCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_0V0IXEkc

i'm guessing jurassic park is probably gonna be the only dinosaur/monster movie that makes the list? maybe king kong has a shot.

i have never been brave enough to watch texas chainsaw. maybe this is the year.

I saw it for the first time in the last year. It is such an evil insane film

psycho was my number five. last saw it in lincoln center, accompanied by the philharmonic strings. it was sweet.

I learned recently that The Birds was based on a Daphne du Maurier short story. Just watched Rebecca for the first time this week, it is a huge step up in quality from his first du Maurier adaptation, Jamaica Inn, released a year earlier

I watched Psycho just last night, for the first time in years. I completely forgot about the first 45 minutes, the setup to why this soon to be murdered! person is out at the hotel

this list is getting spooky

just in time for Halloween

Good mix of the masterful and the godawful. I look forward to the obscurities on individual ballots.

Showgirls was fun to watch, it had a largely straight content (except for Gina Gershon) with an entirely gay sensibility, which I loved, but I’m just not thinking it is one of the best 100 films ever

at this point wondering if Buñuel, Kiarostami, Martel, Fellini, Visconti, Akerman, Rohmer, Weerasethakul, or Varda will show up

I hope In the Mood for Love will feature in the top 50. and Twin Peaks: The Return

and Taxi Driver and McCabe & Mrs. Miller

Hitchcock may have filmed Rebecca, The Birds and Jamaica Inn, but it was another director's Daphne du Maurier adaptation I had highest on my ballot, hope it places.

also recently rewatched Don't Look Now (is that the one you mean?), a really great film

That's the one, yeah.