ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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so much fun

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

Never saw it until recently streamed it with a 9-year old. He was the perfect age for it I think. I find it baffling that this is considered top tier Spielberg.

o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

I mean just in terms of soulless action and special effects wizardry I think it pales in comparison to say "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", but that sort of thing is not really my cup of tea.

o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

ethan wtf is up with your habit of reviving your own threads just to go "yup, i still agree with myself."
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:42 PM

King shit

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

Chris L otm.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

the people have spoken, Jurassic Park is the #1 film of all time

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

...and the Golden Boys (xp)

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

finally a good movie

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

There are many aspects to film mastery, and dinosaurs are one of the most neglected.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

The only 90s action flick I'm rooting for is The Wrong Trousers

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

don't think i would have voted for jurassic park in a spielberg poll, let alone this one. it slaps though

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

Wouldn't vote for it, but I can't deny that it's in my DNA.

jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

i would like to point out

raw point totals + (average points per vote x 3) + (number of votes x 10)

Prior to weighting, ballots' top 25 got from 100 points down to 76 points (or 88 points if unranked), and the honorable mentions all received 20 points.

the (number of votes x 10) part just gives every vote 10 more points, so a #1 movie = 110 points, etc.

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

Jurassic Park was mind-blowing when I was 9.

jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

there are dinosaurs, they're in a park, whoa!!! perfect, five stars

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

the only spielberg i voted for was a.i. and i am already bitter that it won't place

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

don't think i would have voted for jurassic park in a spielberg poll, let alone this one. it slaps though

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

this feels fair

how many coens do we think will place btw

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

The Golden Age of Film is Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine...

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

xp
2, joel and ethan

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

Stencil and Trife?

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

Oh wait, sorry. Mods!

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

the (number of votes x 10) part just gives every vote 10 more points, so a #1 movie = 110 points, etc.

Sure, but that doesn't get included in the 'average points per vote' calculation, so you get a weird effect where for a given vote total, the boost is higher at high and low numbers of voters than it is in the middle.

I'm guessing that Once Upon a Time in Anatolia was just outside the 100 on unweighted count, and Showgirls was waaay outside?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

Yes, I believe those were the two that got bumped in based on neither having (to my knowledge) any "honorable mention" votes.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

And yes, I wanted to tilt the balance a bit more toward passion than respect.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

The Joe Biden of Spielberg films.

Um, I gave the image the "hope" color scheme for a reason.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

i thought it was a discoballasaurus

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

I gave Anatolia a longlist vote so that's not true! xps

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

Some of us reacting now to Jurassic Park being the new de facto Spielberg center-of-gravity the same way Dwight MacDonald reacted to positive reviews of The Birds.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

xp fair enough; you might have been the only one then ... for sure Showgirls had only super high votes

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.

Yeah, but that interacts with the other effect you mentioned, where high numbers of votes means more bonus 10s.

800 points unweighted across 10 voters comes to 1140 points, across 15 voters comes to 1110 points, across 20 voters comes to 1120. Which are obviously not big deals, just mathematically interesting.

If there's any filmmakers out there watching us tonight wondering how to game the system, my advice is to pay this no mind, and just add more dinosaurs.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

JP too low obv, spielberg’s most personal film.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

xp let's see if that advice worked for Tree of Life.

Chris L, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Toy Story has a dinosaur...

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

I was wondering if any other animations would show up.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

xps I'm no master statistician (or an accountant) but I tried a few different variations before settling on a formula that found the happy medium between accounting for the percentage of top-tier votes and completely jettisoning a lot of films that landed in the top 100 on points alone

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

If it's given us Ceylan, it'll do for me

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/053-the-texas-chain-saw-massacre.jpg

53. THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (Tobe Hooper, 1974, USA) [788.13 points; 8 votes]
S&S: 237 | TSPDT: 179 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I first saw it in the last 10 years, and the theater was rocking with laughter."

i had never seen the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and i started it last night...and i had to turn it off. it was totally making me paranoid.
― the table is the table, Friday, January 18, 2008 10:24 AM

I have lived my entire life being afraid of seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
― Sara R-C, Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:04 PM

Leatherface's first appearance from behind the sheet metal door is easily one of the top five horror shots of all time. Masterfully executed.
― the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:33 AM

The worst scene in Texas Chainsaw is where the girl gets out of the house, runs down the porchsteps, the Texas sky is so blue, and nope, Leatherface catches her and takes her back into the house.
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:40 AM

i've watched tcm so many times that the jump scares have lost a little impact (though yeah, masterfully executed), but what has never dulled for me is the unbearably...filthy vibe of the whole thing.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:51 AM

is there any better masterclass in scream-acting than Marilyn Burns (RIP) btw? holy God, she gets everything right, the shrieks, the mannerisms, the facial expressions, the hysterical laughing at the end.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:24 PM

(everyone else actively wanted Franklin to get killed, wheelchair or no wheelchair, right?)
― it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:06 PM

knowing the circumstances around the actors experiences in TCM makes lars von triers notable abuse of actors seem kinda huggalovable
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:09 PM

Pretty much everyone on that crew vomited once; some had to be hospitalized after they lit a bunch of dead dog carcasses on fire out back and the smoke seeped into the set.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:16 PM

I heard they did this on the set of Tom Hanks' "The Terminal" but they were professionals about it and walked it off.
― The Thnig, Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:17 PM

why would anyone set a bunch of dead dog carcasses on fire
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:20 PM

just another Friday at the quarry
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:21 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

I love that this and JP are back to back, as I've long thought that Spielberg (who has a history with Hooper, recall) intended the final shot of the T-rex roaring triumphantly at the end of JP as a deliberate echo of TCMs closing shot.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

oh shit

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

the best movie ever made, and nothing compares to seeing it in a theater

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

gonna limit my "what about this entirely sublime moment in jurassic park"s itt to one so everyone can move on. it's the way that the blurry image of the dinosaur, buried skeletal object of desire inaccessible except thru the media of technology and geological memory, flickers and vanishes the moment alan grant's fingertips brush the monitor glass, and then later this happens:

https://i.imgur.com/eiTlLHl.gif

pure cinema

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

crypto def otm

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

I only saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre for the first time not long ago. Its rep had always attracted/repelled me. I thought it was pretty great, and (sometimes at least) funnier than I expected. Nobody ever told me it had a vegetarian agenda. Didn't vote for it, but I respect its place in the canon. I have no complaints about Jurassic Park, really, but voted for a different Spielberg popcorn epic.

I highly recommend this discussion of TCM between John Darnielle and Walter Chaw if you are a fan of any or all of those:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA4d4sr4YCk

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 29 October 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

One of the reasons I'm inclined to believe the Spielberg Poltergeist myth is there's no shot in that film as beautiful and pure as the chainsaw in the sunset scene

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 October 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

Disbelieve lol excuse me thumbs

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 October 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

Still firmly in the Poltergeist represents the best of both worlds camp.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

Well, aside from Texas Chain Saw Massacre and A.I. both being better than Poltergeist.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

I was rewatching a bit the other night on one of the subscriber stations here. Couldn't believe how cleaned-up the outdoor scenes were; I thought back to the first time I saw it, some godawful print in the late '70s. It looked like Days of Heaven all of a sudden. (Hey, Dune makers: the grimmest films can also be wildly funny at moments.)

clemenza, Friday, 29 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link


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