Ope, I trust no one needs clarification that S&S equals Sight & Sound 2012, TSPDT indicates They Shoot Pictures Don't They's 2021 edition, and BOXD is from the Letterboxd top 250 from a couple weeks ago.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
You didn't mention Armond White.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
By design.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
Helen DeWitt's The Last Samurai will make you either want to rewatch this immediately or never want to hear it mentioned again, I'm not sure which.
― Chris L, Monday, 25 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
we're expecting more Kurosawa to place, right? like this is his most canonical work but if nothing else places that's a fucking scandal
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
we should do a poll of 100 best mifune facial expressions after this
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, October 25, 2021 10:30 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is a good one
http://thebigpicturemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Mifune-2.png
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
here
https://putthison.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tumblr_mjz9oxG0wv1qa2j8co3_400.jpg
Not sure if anyone had better style.
― Chris L, Monday, 25 October 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pvBwUYOaNTI/YIZPjCyaU5I/AAAAAAAAulA/JKutjOywaxEro4Im71AmAwwRb6LeoCd1ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1080/159108454_232115771968576_4321267911198124944_n.jpg
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
I mean, maybe.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/096-meshes-of-the-afternoon-1.jpg
96. MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON (Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid, 1943, USA) [625.71 points; 7 votes]S&S: 139 | TSPDT: 276 | BOXD: DNP
MORBS SEZ: "that kneeslapper Maya Deren"I've seen Meshes at least once a year for the past six years and I never really figured out why. It's not particularly interesting in and of itself, but one can see the horror that came from it -- that is to say, every art school stereotype stems from it. The closeups, the pretensions, narciscisim disgused as melancholy and the idea that, in order to be considered a serious artist, one must avoid any sort of accessability. You want good female directors? Ida Lupino and Lina Wertmuller. Deren is garbage.― JM, Friday, September 21, 2001 7:00 PM
I've seen Meshes at least once a year for the past six years and I never really figured out why. It's not particularly interesting in and of itself, but one can see the horror that came from it -- that is to say, every art school stereotype stems from it. The closeups, the pretensions, narciscisim disgused as melancholy and the idea that, in order to be considered a serious artist, one must avoid any sort of accessability. You want good female directors? Ida Lupino and Lina Wertmuller. Deren is garbage.― JM, Friday, September 21, 2001 7:00 PM
Lol at Morbz sez quote.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link
never seen it
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
It's like 12 minutes long, Addison.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
An opinion.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
i didn't vote for any short films but no film has had a more profound impact on me probably????
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
didn't vote at all but 'meshes' + 'mulholland drive' = perfectly apposite short + a feature combo
― donna rouge, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
I can't remember if this is the one we watched in 1998 at uni or not.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
A ballot without shorts (and longs) is foreign to me.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
It's fun to watch that Totoro tree growing scene with little kids who've seen it before. They do that motion along with the characters.
I suspect there is one higher short in the list, unless a Looney Tunes short also made it.
― adam t. (abanana), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
One of my film professors worked with Maya Deren when she came to Toronto in 1951. He said, "I found her very funny because she had no sense of humour whatsoever"!
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
depending on how you draw the line for shorts i can think of a few that should be up the list
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
"I found her very funny because she had no sense of humour whatsoever"!
heh -- Gore Vidal said the same about Anais Nin.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
The aforementioned duck amuck could well show up I think, along with the dog I think is being alluded to by abanana
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
Halfway: who?! Is this York or UT?
― clemenza, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
Doug Davidson, who taught at York. He would have been 22 then, attending U of T I believe.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
Maya neighbour Toronto
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
She might not have been all that humourless: here's a quote from a local article written at the time:
"She was astounded to find we had been running her silent films at silent speed, calling us 'long-suffering ones'." (They were shot at the faster, sound speed.)
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
i just watched meshes of the afternoon (here)
what a fantastic score!
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
_ "I found her very funny because she had no sense of humour whatsoever"!_heh -- Gore Vidal said the same about Anais Nin.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
i did not expect a 1943 film to have slapback echo that reminds me of the caretaker and fusion era miles davis
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
Doing a youtube mashup of Meshes Of The Afternoon with the Curb Your Enthusiasm soundtrack. Gotta say it erally works.
― Noel Emits, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/095-showgirls.jpg
95. SHOWGIRLS (Paul Verhoeven, 1995, USA) [628 points; 4 votes]S&S: 1,176 | TSPDT: 1,297 | BOXD: DNP
MORBS SEZ: "Sorry kids, it sucks. (Every counterrevolution has to begin somewhere.) ... my central problem w/ Showgirls is it's juvenile, and not in a way that personally appeals to me (ie not THAT gay)"Cronenberg's doesn't really have anything comparable to Showgirls in his ouevre - can't decide if that's a good or bad thing― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:14 AMYou know that scene where they imply that Nomi is going to be a big star in the tradition of LaToya Jackson and Paula Abdul? They totally imply Paula Abdul starred in topless musicals on broadway! I swear, Showgirls totally slanders Paula Abdul's good name!― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:20 PM"Showgirls" wins [over "Roadhouse"], and I haven't even seen it. What decides it? Believe it or not, KILLING JOKE have a track ("Hollywood Babylon") on the soundtrack (unavailable elsewhere). Huzzah!― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:27 PM
Cronenberg's doesn't really have anything comparable to Showgirls in his ouevre - can't decide if that's a good or bad thing― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:14 AM
You know that scene where they imply that Nomi is going to be a big star in the tradition of LaToya Jackson and Paula Abdul? They totally imply Paula Abdul starred in topless musicals on broadway! I swear, Showgirls totally slanders Paula Abdul's good name!― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:20 PM
"Showgirls" wins [over "Roadhouse"], and I haven't even seen it. What decides it? Believe it or not, KILLING JOKE have a track ("Hollywood Babylon") on the soundtrack (unavailable elsewhere). Huzzah!― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:27 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
Not a huge Kurosawa fan, my favourite is _High and Low_, with Mifune at a lower key of intensity.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
Behind-The-Poll: Yes, these point totals are weighted with a combination of the number of voters against the average ranking each movie got on the ballots it placed. Don't kvetch, weighting the results didn't change the makeup of the top 100 aside from letting two movies in and ushering two movies out. Showgirls was one of the two beneficiaries. I owed Morbs that much.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
I just watched the Deren, or, rather, re-watched b/c my film professor screened it. Just about every cool Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel video is a descendant.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teiji_Itohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshes_of_the_Afternoon
what did i learn about on wikipedia today?
The original print had no score. However, a musical score influenced by classical Japanese music was added in 1959 by Deren's third husband, Teiji Ito.[1][4][5]
ok, now it makes more sense. i could not reconcile the music i was hearing with 1943, even though it seemed just barely possible!
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
The YouTube version I saw had an electronic score.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
Meshes is my favorite Kate Bush video.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
Possibly nothing more needs to be said about Showgirls, now officially a Great Film, but here I'll note that both KJB and myself were among the four voters.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link
Meshes also referenced in Sun Ra's Space is the Place movie.
― Chris L, Monday, 25 October 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
"Cronenberg doesn't really have anything comparable to Showgirls in his oeuvre"
Stereo has some gratuitous topless scenes, but it's not the same.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
Possibly nothing more needs to be said about _Showgirls_, now officially a Great Film, but here I'll note that both KJB and myself were among the four voters.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
Rose: “I know what you mean. I should have said no to the Miss St. Olaf beauty pageant. It was 1951. That was the first year they let humans enter too. I was way ahead after the evening-gown and log-rolling competition. People don't realize how hard it is to roll a log when you're wearing an evening gown. And the shocker is I lost out on the intelligence quiz.”Dorothy: “Quelle surprise!”
Dorothy: “Quelle surprise!”
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
voted for a different verhoeven but showgirls ebbed at the edge of my top 25 anyway
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
I had several Verhoeven in top competition.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
he is the goat
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
did you all abide by the "one per director" rule? or wait, was that an actual rule in the poll? i can't remember. either way, i followed that rule
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
my ballot is as boring as all of mine on any other poll, but i'm hoping some of them place so i can see how bill trashes them! :)
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link