General fighting games thread

There's rumors of a Warner Bros. smashlike. Cartoon characters and DC and other properties.

finally i can pit marvin martian against darkseid

https://newlegacy.fr

very extensive Super SF2 Turbo fan patch that goes beyond what HD Remix tried. The character change notes come with hitbox images and specific match-up differences. It can be played online with Fightcade which I should probably stop putting off and install already.

Mandatory presentation on corporate synergy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUQl2i24qQ

You must clap now.

Think of the DLC opportunities

Sauron
Top Cat
Blade
Johnny Bravo
Jason X
Yogi Bear
Alex DeLarge
Rosie the Robot
Ramsay Bolton
Wyldstyle
Snowflame
Cowardly Lion
Tony Soprano
Michigan J. Frog
Sister Jeanne
Dumbledore
etc.

Wow they really put in Super Saiyan Shaggy
I do like that they're focusing on 2v2. Only character that seemed out of place was the Game of Thrones character

Finally cracked open Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath, having also picked up the final Kombat Pass later on. The online Tower structure for single player is still a mixture of cool and unnecessarily grindy, but I got sucked back into the skin game. The super violent Saturday Morning cartoon-level story was fun, and I LOVE the sheer ridiculousness of having Robocop, Terminator and now JOHN RAMBO as playable characters. (Faster load times on enhanced PS5 version also a nice bonus.)

There was a DLC pack to reskin AND re-voice Johnny Cage, Sonya and Raiden with the '95 movie actors (like they did with Shang Tsung), and yes that includes Lambert. To my shock, the actors actually recorded ALL the match dialogue, intros and various taunts and such. That's a lot! Easily worth the sale price of $3 for that level of amusement.

Really wish the Street Fighter franchise had this level of money, polish, love and actual attention to the single player side. The SF6 teaser didn't do much for me, and makes me think we're far off from an actual game - maybe spring '23? And hopefully less rushed than SFV's launch was.

My hope is that Capcom's bad single player modes were because of Ono, and without him, SF6 will be an improvement.

I can't totally blame Ono - clearly Capcom was unwilling to put serious money and effort behind their SF franchise as well as MvC4. I mean, look at the stuff they're putting out with Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, etc - it's just sad how little they care about the fighting division.

has more to do with jp fighting games historically being thought of as arcade games first with the console versions being ports, i suspect. pretty much every anime fighter has half-assed single player content too, same with SNK games, it's not just capcom

I guess it depends if you count stuff like the Naruto games as anime fighters, but that's fair... Guilty Gear doesn't even try anymore with a real story mode, but at least their tutorials/trials/MoM-mode stuff is meaty. DBFZ did try to do a proper story mode, but was pretty much garbage and only slightly better than Capcom's efforts. I agree that stuff like Under Night/KOF/Tekken (maybe) are at or below SF-level. Smash Ultimate did very well, imo.

None of this stuff comes close to NRS games in any case. And it's not like they're the only ones who did this sort of thing ever - I remember the home ports of Soul Calibur 2 having a pretty solid single player RPG mode as well, though from what I saw later games didn't go as well.

Daigo broke out some new anti-Urien tech during the most recent big SFV tournament. Pretty hype!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ7UH8nbB3I

great video

Always wondered how Martial Masters looked so much like Capcom at their peak of 90s 2d animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a495wV4Afk

lol @ the English guy with Sabretooth's super from XvSF
i like the occasionally fluid animation but the designs are kinda weak

Nick Brawl got voice acting, mostly by the original actors! I've heard the game isn't very good!

oh and the entire SF6 roster leaked

Cautiously optimistic about SF6 and its leaks. I thought V looked pretty good at the time too (Ken's face not withstanding)

Got Nick Brawl from a Humble Bundle and it's free on PS+ this month so will be happy to try it out at somepoint

I haven't played fighting games since probably SF2 Championship Edition and MK3 so I'm way out of the loop, but the hype around SF6 and some Guilty Gear news have kind of piqued my interest? Is the point of fighting games though mostly online PVP though (which is kind of a non-starter for me)?

Unfortunately yes, most games are all about PvP. Although SF6 has a single player World Tour mode that has yet to be described. MKX and MK11 are the gold standard for single player content in fighting games, I've heard.

There's the traditional arcade mode too, but yeah in general something like SFV is all about getting you online (which I was very against but actually enjoyed).

i know fuck all about SFV but the evo top 8 was nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrAI7a6Shmg

> Is the point of fighting games though mostly online PVP though

yes for the pvp
no for the online which is a necessary compromise from the ideal of in-person pvp

but regardless, a beginner will spend most of their early hours labbing or playing against the CPU, in between getting destroyed everytime they play another human

Yeah, my bugbear is still that fighting games lack compelling single player content (except NRS games like Mortal Kombat and Injustice, and even those have a lot of online-only hooks to get to it). But there has been progress at least in the past 10 years of getting better tutorials to prepare you for fighting human beings.

Someone let me know if there's a quick good roundup of all the various Finals sets from this Evo?

It was a long time ago but I very much liked the tour modes in Streetfighter Alpha 3 and Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, and the practice mode in Streetfighter Ex 2 was fun

Nice timing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUlBX8E2BU

Good video, pretty solid advice.

One REALLY good tip he mentions that I wish I'd done years ago: just turn off the ability for people to message you. 99% of the time it's just awful toxicity; limiting to animated teabagging definitely was good for my mental health

Another good point was that it's hard to undervalue how much better it is to be playing against friends in person vs. online, it's a whole different life but sadly not a realistic option for most, esp. since Covid. I still stay in some contact with my old crew on Discord but haven't seen or played with any of them in years. (Also, everybody gets old eventually)

Granblue Fantasy Versus free on PS+ this month. I was interested in the single player, which is kinda cool, but the loading times - especially when you're fighting many successive 30 second battles - are atrocious
Also it's basically a console gacha game, so eh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SQgjYmVYY

Pakistani FGC players use a different grip because the homemade arcade cabinets hurt their hands.

Love it! Great story and reporting.

Currently unreasonably hyped for Street Fighter 6, despite rarely even venturing out of trial mode in SFV. I'm having a custom hitbox/button-only controller made and everything, and have been adjusting to using WAS Spacebar controls for movement in the meantime. I will never be cured of my tendency to accidentally jump on a fight stick so drastic measures were necessary

When it arrives I'll probably be like what the fuck is this thing

oh nice. I got a 2nd-hand qanba drone off ebay & switched out the buttons etc, and it made me think yes, yes, yes, I love fight sticks, this is how games feel to my inner 10-year-old. So I bought an enclosure from Blunderbuss Designs a couple of years ago, but only finally bought a brooks board & wired it up a few months ago (spread the cost, felt less like an absurd indulgence). It is such a delight, even without some giant fucking decal of a waifu slapped across it - just a joy.

I do not think I could change my habits to a hitbox (I have spent too long pulling together a barely functional F/D/DF+p), but they do look intriguing.

Also very up for VI. Just from beta noise & footage, it feels like it will hit

Yeah no kidding re the waifu shit, not sure why I was surprised but browsing Instagram for fightstick inspiration the custom art is all just wall to wall creepy drawings of apparently preteen girls

One of the people who ordered from the guy I'm using just had a blurry photo of their cat sniffing the camera though which kind of rules imo

how about this one

https://i.imgur.com/hVn8Scw.png

Haha I like it! It would certainly serve as a conversation starter rather than a prompt to flee the building as quickly as possible like so many of the others

if it's actually Michael McDonald's stick there's a world of conversational options open

After Ed Boon coyly teasing about Netherrealm's next game constantly for the couple years, the CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery unceremoniously announces MK12 in an earnings conference call, lol

Haha. I like it when tedious dripfed hype campaigns for new games get subverted. Leak everything then stfu imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2347gyZp0U

Zangief looks fun! Moveset-wise he appears to have done a bit of catching up on all of the actual pro-wrestling that happened since Street Fighter II

Also, I love playing Street Fighter on a hitbox, no complaints whatsoever

NGL I kind of thought this revive would be about Cammy getting pants.

Capcom Cup was entertaining despite all the Lukes. Zhen is a great player.

SF6 Zangief has great animation. Lily looks interesting. Cammy looks extremely boring despite her crazy stage.

I would pay money for a DLC where Luke dies in an industrial accident and is removed from the game

I'll try to get back into SFV before 6 comes out (haven't played in years), curious why Luke is so broken

I've heard that Luke was the weakest character in the SF6 beta, which is promising.

SF6 is the first game I have ever pre-ordered.

Regarding Luke in SFV: Luke's MP fireball was the best "poke fireball" and his EX fireball was the fastest fireball. They made all of his uppercuts air-invincible, a mechanic from SF6 that wasn't in the rest of SFV. He was clearly better than any of the other shoto in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GDWhFKWbM

Been enjoying the demo & all the footage & yeah I am probably going to preorder but there's just something painful about shelling out for the deluxe edition bcz that will be the most I've ever paid for a game. I don't think I'm capable of waiting for the season 1 pass to get cheap.

f it maybe I just don't want to play Rashid etc

The S1 pass will probably be discounted long before it actually delivers all four characters...
But yeah, I'm with you, I don't want to spend that much upfront. I haven't played the demo yet but I'm worried about a lackluster launch and $60 is enough

i'm always happy to just main a character from the base roster and not have to worry about dlc. i havent actually looked at who's in the base roster for this one tho

Classic 8 + Luke, Juri, Dee Jay and Cammy + 6 new characters - Jamie, Kimberly, Manon, Marisa, JP, and Lily. So, plenty to start.
I always look to play the new characters first. The OG World Warriors are always there if the new ones are trash. Ended up maining Laura last game pretty quickly...
Three of the four Year 1 characters are old ones anyway - Akuma, Rashid, Ed.

ah yeah thats a good starting roster i dont need dlc. i can play cammy or ken if theyre not too different

I was having great fun maining Kage in V, so I guess Akuma's the closest I'll get to that for a while, though all of the new characters look worth a try. I'll probably just buy the sucker magic beans edition tbh

I really like how this game has balanced having 3 supers per character at different meter levels, and they're all situational and distinct, as opposed to there just always being a big imperative to work towards popping off your single cutscene-length ultra move that takes off half the opponent's health