On Sinema at the Sinema: October 2021 US Politics thread

dictionary definition of treason, hopefully the Dems treat it as such

good one :)

Fascists are good for business.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/how-billionaires-pass-wealth-to-heirs-tax-free-2021/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

True or not, absolutely nothing is going to come of this 1/6 story or the investigation.

My favorite current conspiracy theory is that Greene is the hooded would-be pipe bomber of Jan. 6., based on the way she walks. Which is of course ridiculous, so, in other words, totally plausible.

Though curiously, I remember as it was happening a lot of armchair sleuths hypothesized that the figure was female, so who knows.

yea well I say "seems like a big deal" b/c obviously I don't know what is or isn't anymore. for example I thought the Ukraine story would be swept under the rug as example 700 of "Trump can do whatever he wants" but he got himself impeached over it so who knows. my hunch is that there is going to be a lot more to come on this and some pretty damning stuff is gonna come out of the 1/6 commission outside of just "they were talking to each other". who knows if it's gonna matter in any sense but the Republican party going full on QAnon Terrorist is probably not gonna be good for them come midterms

Midterms? Eh, I think people are pretty dug in to their various opinions on 1/6.

If you think it was a very bad day and a treasonous threat to democracy itself, no information from an investigation or commission is going to make you change your mind.

If you think it was a messy but understandable reaction to the VERY OBVIOUS ELECTION IRREGULARITIES etc., no information from an investigation or commission is going to make you change your mind.

If you think it was patriots rising up to defend freedom, see above. If you think it was an Antifa/BLM false flag, see above. If you think it was perhaps a trifle raucous and uncouth, but ultimately not a big deal, see above. If you just don't give a shit and wish people would stop talking about it, well, y'know, see above.

Karl as usual has the right of it:

a version of "yes, we were in touch with them on the issue of investigating the very suspicious election of 2020, which were of course filled with so many irregularities..." etc etc etc

that's the line they're already using!

Right, Trump & co. said "make your voice heard" but stopped short of "break down the doors, smash the windows, beat up the cops, etc.," hence there is no There there electorally speaking. I don't predict a single vote-changing revelation, but would be thrilled if I am wrong on that point.

Right, Trump & co. said "make your voice heard" but stopped short of "break down the doors, smash the windows, beat up the cops, etc.,"

People in this country are refusing to take a vaccine for a raging pandemic and ppl think some revelations that Trump & co. actually did say these things will make a difference: not a chance.

People are ready and willing to die for a myth— this is not news, and like others have said, it won't change a damn thing.

idk we can keep saying that "none of this matters at all" but Republicans did really poorly in basically every single election since Trump was elected and also got 81 million people to vote for one of the most uninspiring Dem candidates ever, I think it's fair to say this stuff matters somewhat

Sure, and it's a fact I don't lose sight of. But our loyal opposition is ensuring this won't happen again.

These are troubling statistics though. No doubt public schools in the US are problematic for all kinds of reasons, so I agree with the first point, but scapegoating the second two issues for the first is stupid; but then so is the american electorate

Whatever the margin/winner is, the race has already shaped GOP 2022 messaging. Look at the poll numbers the NRSC gave @jameshohmann: GOP sees "genderism" and CRT as a potent issue. Expect tons of messaging about that. https://t.co/AoPi08UsOF https://t.co/bxicl60ygE pic.twitter.com/SOib5Ru0Ox

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) October 25, 2021

Republicans did really poorly in basically every single election since Trump was elected

They did pretty well in the 2020 Congressional election and 81mn Biden voters is undermined a bit by Trump having the second highest vote total ever.

This stuff might matter in the smallest margins but the likeliest voters are set one way or the other. People who aren’t locked into a camp are still going to vote based on gut feelings about the economy and crime, not Jan. 6.

well true the electorate has shifted, for every moderate lost due to Trump they've picked up two lunatics who don't have any political beliefs outside of "fuck all politicians". as a result they seem to do okay if Trump is on the ballot but underperform if he's not. how this dynamic will hold now that he's out is anyone's guess but I can't help but think non-stop coverage about the GOP abetting terrorists and Trump's own legal problems probably won't help

non-stop coverage about the GOP abetting terrorists and Trump's own legal problems probably won't help happen

fixed

do you understand my desire to show up where these people show up and scream my guts out at them, maybe even just tackle some of them, get my ass kicked by older white men with sunglasses?

anti-masker threatens a woman, pushes an older guy, all while threatening to “fuck them up,” then gets punched in the face and cries about “assault” - very satisfying 🤙 pic.twitter.com/9idiEXN5oq

— your friend (@debdrens) October 25, 2021

I guarantee that asshole will think a bit longer before he tries that stunt again.

or be like the Terminator and bring a truck through the door

That works out better in movies than irl. Even I could figure out how to trace a truck with massive front end damage back to its owner.

Wow, that video is Dopamine Spike City.

That works out better in movies than irl. Even I could figure out how to trace a truck with massive front end damage back to its owner.

What if he was wearing a mask?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59054166

Charlottesville back in the news

Seeing the NJ Gubernatorial race tighten despite a horrible Republican candidate by any standards is not encouraging.

idk I've read Murphy is gonna pull it off?

I'm not worried about it. I'll be voting in person on Tuesday; apparently when I voted by mail in 2020 I forgot to check the box reading "send me mail-in ballots for all future elections."

it's just uncomfortably close for my liking. I'm in a solid blue county so it's hard to gauge what's going on.

a tight gubernatorial race in new jersey is probably not a great sign for the national environment in general

https://www.vox.com/22725133/virginia-new-jersey-elections-midterms-biden

voters are so fucking stupid

a tight gubernatorial race in new jersey is probably not a great sign for the national environment in general

New Jersey's had a lot of Republican governors. Most of them weren't pieces of shit like Chris Christie. This current Republican nominee is clearly a repulsive piece of shit, and he's gonna lose.

yeah he's really bad it's amazing

NJ is going to be fine. Virginia is going to be close!

I saw a minute of a national news interview with a Biden to VA guv Republican swing voter - Democrats made her kid wear a mask in school, etc.

A decrepit ghoul from the Clinton admin might not be the inspiring figure needed for these times, though.

"WE WANT TO DIE. JUST BRING US DEATH. WE WANT FRAPUCCINOS AND LIBERTY AND DEATH AND GUNS."

A decrepit ghoul from the Clinton admin might not be the inspiring figure needed for these times, though.

Yeah well we had a whole primary about that

a Biden

how many is the Oval Office breeding?

Hunter is waiting in the wings.

now go scare National Review with that blind item!

I saw a minute of a national news interview with a Biden to VA guv Republican swing voter - Democrats made her kid wear a mask in school, etc.

eve jan 6 https://t.co/kiCnkXy0QE

— eve 6ix (@Eve6) October 26, 2021

Grandmaster Bash and the Seditious Five

:) I know 4 of them, but who is the guy with the tuft of hair on top?

Matt 'Jailbait' Gaetz

matt gaetz is the one above on the right, who is the one on the left?

never mind I don't even want to know

Oh wait, the other one. He's the 3%ers guy, right?

voters are so fucking stupid

Collectively, I think voters are like cats. They know what they like, they respond positively to warmth and affection, they can be grumpy and spiky, and they are wary of change and unfamiliar things.

so in other words, so fucking stupid