ramble tamble or pagan baby
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link
Someday never fucking comes
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
Nope not that one
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
Old man down the road vs centerfield
― calstars, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
Run through the Jungle!!!
But yeah Lodi is definitely up there.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 24 October 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
Pretty remarkable the vibe they work up on Bayou with just a tremolo effect on the guitar and a single 7th chord. Guess that’s a testament to the rhythm section
― calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link
classic
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 October 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
A lot of it comes directly from Pop Staples, no? Which I believe may be discussed upthread.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
Not this thread but a Fogerty sibling thread
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link
Around the Bendmidnight specialsomeday never comesrun through the jungle
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 October 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link
Apparently there’s a 2016 thriller film called midnight special starring Michael Shannon and Kirsten dunst???. “Shannon plays a father who escapes with his son from both the government and a cult after they discover that his son has special powers.l”
― calstars, Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link
indeed
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link
I've seen it, but that's all I can really say about it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:52 (two years ago) link
Have you seen Lorraine?
― calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
I just read the older version of the RAH gig which I have on cd somewhere possibly still and haven't heard in an age is actually from Oakland. Not heard that before .Is it like widely known?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 18 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
RAH? Robert Anson Heinlein?
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link
Royal Albert Hall
― Nobody can handle nipples like Bobo (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
Thanks. Figured that out but posted anyway.
― Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 September 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
Watching the documentary now; I already knew from the live-at-Woodstock album what monsters they could be onstage, but seeing it on film really hammers it home. Doug Clifford has a swinging backbeat of doom as heavy as Bill Ward or Phil Rudd, but he delivers the apocalypse while staring off into space like a St. Bernard — it's incredible to watch.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
Possibly my favorite rhythm section ever.
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Sunday, 18 September 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
Update: They've been playing about a half hour and there has been ZERO stage banter. I've seen grindcore bands take longer pauses between songs. These guys were absolutely merciless.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 September 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
And after 11 two- to three-minute songs in a row, bang bang bang, they end with an eight and a half minute version of "Keep On Chooglin'." It's insane; it's like if the Ramones ended one of their shows with a cover of "Stranglehold."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 18 September 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link
it's really something how great the music sounds and how utterly dreadful the picture quality on the interviews is. i guess last dance and get back raised the bar for the treatment of historical footage but man it's just... bad. a swarming mass of weird mpeg artifacts. sit far back enough from the TV and i guess it's alright? or squint. the overlaid text is just bad powerpoint default text as well, just minimum effort. and no insight, no stories, nothing surprising. on the other hand the music just sounds incredible. in fact every show on that european tour sounds incredible. is there high quality sound for all those shows? it's funny though, sometimes with creedence it's a little bit deflating because apart from the jams it really does sound - and they refer to this explicitly in the doc - so much like the record that you're like, well, okay, fine, i could just listen to the record.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
last night i did a double-bill of this and the zz top doc and it was pretty funny how they both did the whole walk-hard thing, black and white footage of sock hops, etc. the zz top doc is easily superior in terms of funny stories and just all around quality but it felt extremely jarring to have it come to an end right after... eliminator? i'll probably take it to the zz thread but kinda disrespectful imo. "breakaway" on antenna is probably my favorite song they ever did.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 September 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
sometimes with creedence it's a little bit deflating because apart from the jams it really does sound - and they refer to this explicitly in the doc - so much like the record that you're like, well, okay, fine, i could just listen to the record.Yes and no. The arrangements are certainly the same as the record — there’s no radical (or even slight) re-imagining of the songs. But the intensity, momentum, and juuust slightly and perfectly ahead-of-the-beat agitation makes it a far different, and more exciting, experience for me.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 19 September 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
Yes and no. The arrangements are certainly the same as the record — there’s no radical (or even slight) re-imagining of the songs. But the intensity, momentum, and juuust slightly and perfectly ahead-of-the-beat agitation makes it a far different, and more exciting, experience for me.
Agree with this 100%. They were absolutely more energetic and intense onstage than in the studio; that's why I wound up focusing so much on the drums, and hearing the similarities to (Bon Scott-era) AC/DC.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 19 September 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
it is better live, i agree.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 19 September 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Some nice slap-back / Sun Ra feedback delay on this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2oJIBQKlnw
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
this is enough of a thing that fogerty is even quoted discussing it on wikipedia but (given how political he was and how much of a touchstone it was for the counterculture in its years of defeat and setback and turmoil) i continue to love how jolly "bad moon rising" sounds
― mark s, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 10:33 (one year ago) link
One thing I took away from this was how many songs are in E that I had always thought were in D - Bad Moon and Mary come to mind
― calstars, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link
D MajorThe key of triumph, of Hallejuahs, of war-cries, of victory-rejoicing. Thus, the inviting symphonies, the marches, holiday songs and heaven-rejoicing choruses are set in this key.D MinorMelancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood.E♭ MajorThe key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.D# MinorFeelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding despair, of blackest depresssion, of the most gloomy condition of the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart, breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key.E MajorNoisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full delight lies in E Major.
D MinorMelancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood.
E♭ MajorThe key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.
D# MinorFeelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding despair, of blackest depresssion, of the most gloomy condition of the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart, breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key.
E MajorNoisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full delight lies in E Major.
― mark s, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link
I think they tuned down on at least some songs?
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link
If you mean that some songs were played in a different key from the record at the RAH show, no, all songs were in the same keys as the recordings. But if you mean “tuning down” in the sense that some CCR songs use a drop-D guitar tuning, then yes — “Ramble Tamble” uses that tuning (where the high and low E strings are tuned to D).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
Haven't seen the doc yet, but I did read that the audio version of the set has apparently trimmed out brief moments of banter and guitar swapping, so perhaps that was also the case with the video of the show?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
(xp) the latter
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
... actually no, I meant they'd tune down a whole step, if that's the right terminology.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
As far as I can tell, CCR's instruments were all in standard tuning (lowest to highest strings): E A D G B E. On "Ramble Tamble" the tuning was D A D G B D.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link
The video shows Fogerty stopping to drink something between songs, and a roadie hands him a different guitar a couple of times, but the pauses are never more than a few seconds, and he never speaks to the audience until right before "Keep On Chooglin'," and all he says is "Thanks; this is our last song, it's called 'Keep On Chooglin''."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link
Got it, I was just reading on another forum someone complaining that some between song stuff had been "excised" on the audio release.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
The Royal Albert Hall doc might have been a dvd release of just the concert in the 2000s, but it seems like they had to pad it with a documentary portion for Netflix. It's so flimsy though that it feels like someone created an AI prompt for "Creedence visiting European landmarks." Nevertheless, the show is a fun watch. The seated crowd mostly seems bottled up throughout until a handful of them lose their shit during "Keep on Chooglin.'" What a strange, powerful alchemy these guys had.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link
good to hear stu explaining how very different denmark is from norway tho
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link
Watched the doc last night and christ, "Fortunate Son" is so amped up and frantic it sounds like the Feelies or something. Doug Clifford keeps pushing it faster & faster until by the end its like a hairs breadth from going completely off the rails. Fucking killer.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 23 September 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
Damn, that lady in the front row losing it to "Keep On Chooglin'"...You only wish you could have as good a time as that.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
Proud Mary definitely has some higher string jangle in the studio recording so maybe they used capo on the second fret for that, but couldn’t be bothered live
― calstars, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
Gotta say that whole audience looks very 1965, was expecting hairier hippies.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 09:48 (one year ago) link
I say it all the time, most people didn't start getting really hairy till the 70s.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 10:09 (one year ago) link
I've been looking at footage from Paris '68 recently and the men all have such short hair and are so neatly dressed.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 10:10 (one year ago) link
It’s the royal albert hall, not the Fillmore west
― calstars, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link
The audience at the Oakland Coliseum gig are similarly not very hairy.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 11:23 (one year ago) link
that’s what they call CHOO-gih-LIEH
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link