All You Need Is A POLL: The Books albums

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System, Friday, 22 October 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Totally forgot about these guys, will have to check the solo work. I wrote this as a Columbus OH show preview:
The Books
Thursday @ Wexner
The Books play (and sample) plucked, strummed and bowed instruments, while talking and singing with countless other sounds, also sampled (and played). Waves of fragments move calmly, and, on their first album,
The Lemon of Pink, venerable voices provide “helpful” gibberish. The Books like to ricochet through such decay, although the subsequent Lost & Save risks spelling this out a little too plainly, before zigzagging through unexpected insights and comedy. Their new version of Nick Drake’s “Cello Song” even grooves with the glitches of a cheapo CD-R! Which is where I put what the publicist sent me. A lonng time ago.

dow, Friday, 22 October 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link

sheesh after all those posts I wasn't expecting The Way Out to place last. I was one of the votes sooooo

frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

Sorry I can’t betray my inconditional love for lost and safe

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 October 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link

Yup I didn't make it to Thought for Food in my relisten but ultimately ended up going with Lost and Safe. The Way Out is a little too busy and propulsive; Lemon of Pink felt a shade too subdued and calm coming after the last two in my reverse-chronological relisten, as much as I love it. Lost and Safe has the perfect balance.

Look at it this way: you may fall and break your leg

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

you know 16 votes seems pretty low for this. I feel like every ILX thread on The Books a decade ago must've had like 4000 posts. hell there's even an entire subforum dedicated to them. guess it's just one of those things that didn't stick, huh

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 04:29 (two years ago) link

there's also just the fact that this website's userbase has dwindled over the years... but yeah, it feels very "of its time." that's not to say its bad music -- it's great music! -- but i guess they've been somewhat forgotten about.

i would've voted Lemon of Pink, but I haven't heard their last two records so didn't think it would be fair for me to vote

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:59 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

okay so I decided to pull out Thought For Food again - the record turns 20 in two days!! still feels like one of those albums that really built everything from the ground up, it sounds like nothing else. I used to think of it as "folktronica" but there aren't any electronic or glitch elements on it really. Now I think of it as like..."what if Penguin Cafe Orchestra and The Bran Flakes swapped some members?" even after all this time there's still such an air of mystery to it. like, what's going on with the vocal bits on "Contempt"? or that drugged-out drawl on "All Our Base"? where did they get the sample of the lady on the first track? why does it end the way it does? so much to puzzle over...

for me this album occupies a space in my brain reserved for like...quotes from old Simpsons episodes. all the disjointed spoken bits are just so weirdly memorable.

frogbs, Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link

also how clever of them to have a bit that just repeats the world "aleatoric" over and over...as though they were writing the critics' ledes for them

frogbs, Thursday, 2 June 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link

and also I have a heart condition, and I told him I have a heart condition

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

okay - I actually found out what the source of that sample was - Zammuto wrote a very detailed blog about this track

https://zammutosound.com/blogs/nick-zammuto-s-blog/posts/the-track-enjoy-your-worries-you-may-never-have-them-again

Around that time I sampled a daytime court show from TV, where a woman selling vacation tickets was being harassed by a man unsatisfied by his accommodations. She went on this jaw-dropping motor-mouthed rant about how she had lost her job and had a heart condition, and it turned out to be a great stand-in for a free-jazz like instrumental solo. If you listen carefully you’ll hear my voice slightly ahead, doubling the text, which I recorded by speaking each phrase as a loop until I ran out of breath. I isolated each ‘out of breath’ phrase and reassembled them to match the original so that it sounded as if I was constantly running out of breath throughout the entire rant. Then, behind her voice is a rhythm created by zipping my fingernail across one of those crackerjacks box style holograms, with the ridged prisms on the front surface. A sample from Kurosawa’s ‘Seven Samurai’ (one of my favorite films) ends her rant succinctly.

The cello solo in the next section was created by wiggling the playback cursor over a cello recording in the timeline of Soundforge, to give it that wiggle effect. “Myself, April, Tammy, and Brad” were the plaintiffs in the next case on that daytime court show. Then there’s a sample of a film (Goddard, I believe), in Russian, where a man professes his love to a prostitute and has a heart attack mid sentence, instantaneously dying (as an echo of the previous heart condition). Then there is a sample of a Japanese fellow reading stock reports, which we selected purely for rhythmic reasons, not knowing until much later what he was actually talking about.

The blog teases posts about other tracks, but unfortunately, this is the only one he writes about.

It is odd that Zammuto, who was for a time a meticulous blogger, has just gone completely dark for the last 6 years. He reminds me a lot of a friend of mine, who is very intelligent and well-read, that just decided to go offline forever, and now has challenged himself to live in a van for a year. We still send handwritten letters back and forth.

frogbs, Thursday, 2 June 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Weirdly, I actually heard from an old friend of mine who works for [Big Tech Corp], who happened to meet Zammuto recently. He brought it up because I was the one who got him into the Books way back. Per friend, Zammuto also works for [Big Tech Corp] from Vermont "making weird sounds or something for them." Take that as you will.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 3 June 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

Also, my friend who works for [Big Tech Corp] is also completely dark/unfindable on the the internet. When you know how the sausage gets made...

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 3 June 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link


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