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Thing is… he can’t really stat pad on this team. Feel like his numbers are gonna take a pretty big hit on this team

we have two years of history now where westbrook changed teams and was basically god awful for like 3 months before figuring it out and being pretty good for the rest of the season, so we’ll see. the lakers for real have no shooting tho

lamelo 7/9 from 3

i think maybe in like 4 years i’ll come to accept that he’s a good 3 point shooter

jokic 32-16-7-3-1 with 6 turnovers, leading the nuggets in every category

lebron 9 threes to 4 free throws and 2 rebounds tonight. he’s just saving his body right…

Avery became the 11th player in NBA history to not record a counting stat in at least 20 Minutes of play, he was just running around 😂 (via Joey Linn) pic.twitter.com/o4qZN8bq8q

— Statline - Basketball & NBA News (@statline_) October 23, 2021

I would say that even I could pull off that stat line in the NBA but there's no way I'd last 21 minutes out there

lol yes, a civilian would get posted up and bodied and carried out in less than five

30-7 and 32-9 in back to back games for miles bridges. did not think he'd reach this level as a scorer. he's a really good small ball player

yeah his development has been very good

cole anthony 29-16-8

i checked that rebound number on two two sites btw

jalen green scored 30 points in his 3rd nba game hes 19 years old

seems p good

steven adams first three games as a grizzly

8-14-3
17-9-5
14-16-6

maybe there’s something wrong in new orleans, hard to tell

wow big nums m8

It's not exactly a stat, but I don't know what other thread it fits in. On the 75th anniversary list of the "75 best players of all time" the NBA announced, Dame Lillard was the youngest player to make the list. Hey-oo!

*anthony davis is 3 years younger than damian and made the list

I was misinformed -- by a local sports writer.

dwight has a better resume than them both but everyones kind of forgotten about that due to reasons

it boils down to all the voters didn't want to vote for dwight bc everyone hates dwight

how i break it down to an extent

yah dwight is prob a top 50 player honestly. but lol at his exclusion

dwight has a better resume than them both but everyones kind of forgotten about that due to reasons

― lag∞n, Monday, October 25, 2021 6:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

dwight is easily the most egregious snub, don’t really have an opinion about the 50s wites but the first guy I’d probably leave off is reggie miller

they just kept the top 50 from last time so it was really a 25 (26) list of new guys

reggie is v impt for 90s hoop history imo

sure I mean lots of guys are important

reggie belongs on the list imo if he played in the current era his stats would be crazy. you could make not just the historical figure argument (which i think is important — you can’t tell a history of 90s nba without him, which is true of john starks too but reggie’s skill level rises to a certain level) but also that he was a player ahead of his time who predicted where the game would go

he was such an amazing heal too, another guy whos ruined his legacy

Reggie hit an absolutely *insane* amount of threes for his era, it’s really hard to believe in retrospect

the og hoister. i really would think much more highly of him had he never broadcasted

prob woulda had a chip or two had the malice @ the palace not happened

isn’t the problem with dwight not just that ppl don’t like him but that his peak was actually pretty short? he was done as an elite player at age 29, for an all time great player to not have any impact into their 30s is pretty rare. does anyone remember what team dwight was on when he was 31 years old? (the hawks). if you go by all star game selections his 8 put him in the 50s on that list — same as dikembe
mutumbo & vince carter but also steve nash & dave cowens. he prob should’ve been on the 75 list but him falling off a cliff as a player at a time when most elite guys still have 5 years of great basketball left isn’t really anyone else’s fault

isn’t that mostly due to injuries though? his back just stopped cooperating iirc

mcgradys another guy like that

well dwight never really developed any actual skills and once him posting up stopped becoming even halfway useful he kinda became a zero on offense. he’s definitely one of the 75 best athletes in NBA history. probably one of the 75 best players too. but he was a beast for only like 5-6 years when he was at his athletic peak. once he left orlando he wasn’t the same, could still get lots of rebounds i guess

he's sustained a nice role player role and got a chip.

came outta high school and was pretty quickly impactful, not the shortest of peaks but for sure robbed of prime years with the back injury

this is a really strong resume
https://i.imgur.com/E2OAtyF.png

he's sustained a nice role player role and got a chip.

he was the 2nd best player in the league for a while

dragged an orlando team that had absolutely no business to the finals

all while subsisting entirely on skittles

objection your honor
― J0rdan S., Monday, October 25, 2021 5:27 PM (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think i just expected him to be out of the league soon after his hawks stint?

hoping he will tear apart the lakers from the inside this time tho.

if you go by all star game selections his 8 put him in the 50s on that list

5 of which are first team, which puts him in the 20s, even more impressive considering there’s only 1 center spot. an open and shut case if you ask me

I see the argument for reggie for sure but the nature of a list like this is lots of good and important players are going to be left off. as I alluded to the real answer for who to leave off would be some guy from the 50s or whatever but it’s so hard to compare those early guys to guys from today. apparently the voters felt the same way because everyone seemed to just grandfather the old list in

other than dwight tho there probably isn’t an obvious snub out of current players. simmons voted for luka and jokic, which you can definitely make the case for either way. lowe apparently voted for iguodala, which…

they literally grandfathered the old list in, only voted on the new guys

lazy af

they literally grandfathered the old list in, only voted on the new guys

― lag∞n, Monday, October 25, 2021 8:37 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

no apparently they actually voted for all 75 and that’s just the way it turned out!

not what i read, also its not possible

the prosumer era gotta love it lol, i think its kinda fine for basketball but where seams start showing is anything artistic like these youtube videos that explain why movies are good due to following the rules of structure, you see the effects with people demanding that a tv show have "stakes", this is not actually how to enjoy watching things its just pretending youre an insider who knows whats up, its funny too cause amongst informed fans formula used to be considered a bad thing but todays experts get mad if you dont give it to them they say youre doing it wrong

― lag∞n, Saturday, April 6, 2024 1:36 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

beyonce releasing a white paper before her album comes out lol

yeah some very otm posts it’s a strange world we live in these days

i think some kind of marriage between america-style collective corporate interest (lux tax, salary caps, access to incoming players via draft with weight given towards shittiness) and euro soccer practices (promotion/relegation, multiple tournaments in and between countries, developmental academies and player contract sales as revenue generator) could address a lot of these issues.

promotion/relegation is amazing but the free market stuff that comes with it is the worst you soccer has like 15 competitive teams across the top five leagues

idk how europeans put up with that shit f1 is the same way

i think theres some prob irreconcilable differences between the systems like once you have promotion/relegation how do you do a draft, if only the top league has access to it its a rich get richer scenario, you put the second league in then what about the third league, maybe theres only two leagues idk now your best young players are in the second league when youd really prefer to have them in primetime, then you have to pay your second league star but cant afford it so you sell him up to the first league that just pretty much sucks its not good, maybe you do some revenue sharing/salary cap thing where all teams in both leagues have the same money to spend now a bunch of the best guys are in the second league, i think a promotion/relegation system only really works if players are purely just moved for money like in soccer, i know theyve tried to put some abstract salary cap stuff in there but the same teams are just good every year

in european soccer so much of the fan behavior, the expectations of the fans, what makes them happy etc and how that effects team behavior is rooted in how small those countries are. and bcuz of that there is so much about those leagues that we can’t replicate in america bcuz we are 50x the size or whatever. like, ppl in luton and burnley england are overjoyed when their teams are able to just maintain premier league status bcuz they are like… a farm town in rural england. the teams aren’t (or weren’t until recently in some cases) owned by billionaires. we have no equivalent… like charlotte or salt lake or indianapolis are considered NBA backwaters but would be the second biggest cities in england. regardless of what salary caps do at the high end, there’s still a lot more money being poured into the worst NBA (or NFL or MLB) teams than the worst premier league teams, and a lot that just derives back to like the average GDP of the american sports city vs that of england, italy spain etc. but obv salary caps create artificial competition to a large extent, the pacers would have a hard time competing with the lakers celtics etc if spending was unfettered. but we have more billionaires in america to buy up these teams and start spending if they want to (i.e. ishbia). the soccer teams have to turn to foreign money if they want any hope

there also teams in england like west ham, crystal palace etc that are just in london but don’t have the financial ability to compete with the better teams in london or manchester and there is nothing really diff about those fans vs that of chelsea except choosing a team that prob can’t ever win & still being cool with it. that dynamic is a bit harder to explain

ultimately i don’t think the idea of parity — that every team *can* win a title — as derived from salary caps & luxury taxes is ever being stripped out of american sports or american sports fandom

its better, if you gave those euros a lil taste of it they wouldnt be going back, burnley fc dynasty is on the table baby

they should just have a eurowide super premiere league thats fed by all the top leagues tho, having the best players spread across multiple leagues is lame, those guys should be facing off every week in a battle of wills

thats p much what the champions league is tho

thats a tournament

real madrid and man city should be playing each other twice a year who could complain

they already often do in champions league!

sometimes they play each other every year yeah

well the big teams *did* band together to do that but then their fans responded by doing stuff like breaking into the stadium and lighting things on fire. another difference between english and american fans

that was to replace the champions league

basically a champions league where the current big teams got guaranteed invites every year which is the part the fans didnt like, what im proposing is a league not a tourney and it has promotion/relegation from big the national leagues

so it supersedes the premiere league la liga etc

yeah but i think people rightly saw it as putting the sport on a track towards what you describe. english soccer fans weren’t rioting bcuz they were protective of the champions league it was bcuz they thought the super league was a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries

if the leaders of european soccer could make decisions w/o any repercussions from public opinion i think they would love to do what you are proposing

as a fan of nba hoops, my interest in the structure and politics of european soccer extends exactly as far as my interest in soil conservation efforts in Lithuania.

jordan making up a guy to agree with soccer owners

making up soccer owners to agree with a guy? making up what people were mad at? idk something like that

wait idk what you’re saying… that the idea of the rioter is a strawman? there were actual protests in england that basically killed the super league there and across europe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Old_Trafford_protests

i’m speculating on their motives i guess but man u misses the champions league all the time their fans should’ve been ecstatic to be granted a yearly free pass into the most prestigious european tournament. what they were reacting against was something more existential to the nature of soccer i think that’s an entirely fair and accurate thing to say

is that what you said

i think people rightly saw it as putting the sport on a track towards what you describe. english soccer fans weren’t rioting bcuz they were protective of the champions league it was bcuz they thought the super league was a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries

"a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries" and "something more existential to the nature of soccer" are not synonymous statements, and in this case the first one doesnt really make sense since it was an international competition anyway

furthermore the free pass was exactly the crux of the issue it was a powerplay by the top teams, rather than having to compete on a level playing field in the context of a unbiased league the top teams just wanted to own the competition, which very much does represent an existential threat to how the game is organized

whereas my model is just another layer on the already existing unbiased league system, it doesnt offer the top teams the power they want, they still have to go out there and win just like everyone else

which is not to say that soccers fans wouldnt hate it, im sure they would, but i dont care its a good idea, its for the good of the game and they have to do it

ok maybe our wires are crossed here im not talking about your idea if that’s what you think im referring to as an “existential threat.” i’m talking about the actual super league that was formed and then dissolved

"a death sentence for the concept of the sport being based around leagues in individual countries" and "something more existential to the nature of soccer" are not synonymous statements

if the leaders of european soccer could make decisions w/o any repercussions from public opinion i think they would love to do what you are proposing

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, April 6, 2024 4:06 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok maybe our wires are crossed here im not talking about your idea if that’s what you think im referring to as an “existential threat.”

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, April 6, 2024 4:52 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

we know what the owners love

Embiid 30/12 in 23 minutes.

sixers 3-0 since his return

seems like a valuable guy. but is he the MOST valuable…

Domantas Sabonis' all-important double-double streak has ended with an 8-point, 13-rebound, 5-assist performance in the loss to OKC.

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) April 10, 2024

With that 54th win, Chris Finch has won more games in 1 season than 10 Wolves coaches did in their whole tenure 🐺

— Jimmy Knutson (@JimmyKnutson) April 8, 2024

celtics first team to not shoot a free throw in a game

bucks shot 2! 2 fts whole game

refs are booking their vacations lol

two records last night:

-celtics 0 FTA for a full game (apparently the bucks only had 2fta as well)

- Warriors highest 3P% for a game with minimum 40 attempts (26/41 for 63.4%)
(dray klay steph all hit at least 5 3s for the first time in like 8 years)

The first player in NBA history to record

10+ rebounds
10+ assists
0 field goal attempts
0 free throw attempts

in a game. pic.twitter.com/zgKvC2xQ37

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 13, 2024

Coulda like.. used some points tho bro

lol what the heck

There was one point late in the game where the Pels were in rotation and Dray was wide open at the top of the key for a three. Dyson Daniels was supposed to rotate to Dray, but he didn’t even bother, just went to cover the next pass.

the pacers are the first team to have 10,000 points and 2,500 assists in a season