2021-22 NBA "REGULAR" SEASON THREAD

The question marks around Ben Simmons have always been there for those who have followed him closely. Interesting to look back at the article I wrote about him 5 1/2 years ago: https://t.co/HXXmpSWCSJ

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) October 19, 2021

I honestly blame Morey here, if we’re blaming someone

seems like this cant go on much longer you dont really want embiid punching simmons

philly famously does not like punching in sports

i mean im sure the fans would like it but its probably not constructive for the team

that givony article was pretty otm tho i still wonder if brandon ingram is better than simmons?

There are real questions about pairing Simmons with other ball-handlers or non-shooters in the NBA.

no one would trade ingram for simmons at least

seems like this cant go on much longer you dont really want embiid punching simmons

― lag∞n, Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:25 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

philly famously does not like punching in sports

― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:27 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean im sure the fans would like it but its probably not constructive for the team

― lag∞n, Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:28 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just one punch. Is that too much to ask?

(NB: Embiid would break his hand, I'm sure).

Karl Anthony Towns, forever trying way to hard

KAT referenced Kobe listening to Halloween music to prepare for games. He says he watches video of two gorillas fighting.

— Jon Krawczynski (@JonKrawczynski) October 19, 2021

real 40 year old virgin vibes

ESPN Sources: The 76ers have fined Ben Simmons $1.4M for his absence from four preseason games (360K each) and levied numerous team fines for missed practices, on-court workouts and meetings. He hasn’t earned any money since returning to the team on October 11.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 19, 2021

its not going well!

lol Trae Young is the most disruptive force in the league, all Simmons had to do was dunk on him one time

On his first night in the White House, President Trump complained that the TV in his bedroom was broken, because it didn’t have “the gorilla channel.” Trump seemed to be under the impression that a TV channel existed that screened nothing but gorilla-based content, 24 hours a day.

Lol KAT got the gorilla Sling package

lmao

excellent montage of pics to kick off the thread as always, well done ilh fam

cannot believe the simmons situation has gotten to this point. have to assume they are in close communication with their legal team about how to keep denying him any $$$ - big fines, little fines, individual suspensions for each game, whatever it takes. truly this situation is the gift that keeps on giving. for us non-sixers fans. sorry PBKR!

"I know you have a lot of questions...I'm not going to address them...haha...I practiced today. I feel good...thank you, have a good day!!" pic.twitter.com/YmE9Cryaxu

— Milwaukee Bucks (@Bucks) October 6, 2021

everything about the photo of jason kidd with the enormous collar swallowing his neck is extremely important

Injury Report for tomorrow's game at Charlotte:

Malcolm Brogdon - Probable (left shoulder)
Jeremy Lamb - Questionable (right wrist)
Justin Holiday - Questionable (left ankle)
Kelan Martin - Out (left hamstring)
Caris LeVert - Out (lower back)
T.J. Warren - Out (left foot) pic.twitter.com/ksaaOk24rL

— Indiana Pacers (@Pacers) October 19, 2021

good start!

The Injury Pacers

tj mcconnell triple double incoming

stats thread
NBA / 21 / 22 / FG / FT / 3PM / TO / BL / STATS

same. he refuses to agree with the rest of the league’s valuation of simmons and thus here we are. everyone in the media is like “darryl doesn’t mind discomfort” yeah we’ll see
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:23 PM (three hours ago)

I do think there's something to be said for at least giving *not* selling low a shot, like this is a circus but one assumes it can't continue forever, once simmons shows some life daryl will be in a better negotiating position presumably. also I doubt the offers that are there now are just going to disappear and the sixers can probably weather some weirdness for a short period of time, don't really see them as a threat to fall out of the top 4

i don't see why simmons value would increase if he plays well in the regular season. he's on the trade block bcuz he disappeared in the second round of the playoffs, playing well in october and november isn't going to change that. daryl, presumably, is banking on something going wrong with other teams and the offers changing because of that. maybe that will happen before the situation on his team becomes untenable, but what could simmons possibly do for teams to be like "oh wow he's much better than we thought, we better up our offer." is he gonna suddenly start making jump shots?

if it's true that he's holding out for a star he's basically just banking on the blazers or wizards being so bad that lillard or beal demand out of situations that they have so far refused to demand out of. ok fine. at what point does he admit defeat on that point and start looking at more reasonable trade offers that can also actually make his team better?

and if lillard did ask out the blazers would get better offers

but... kyrie?

but what could simmons possibly do for teams to be like "oh wow he's much better than we thought, we better up our offer." is he gonna suddenly start making jump shots?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:13 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not being a huge baby could help

idk i think most teams prob understand it's a bit of an act to bring this whole charade to a close. the team who trades for him will prob be desperate enough for a "star" that they're willing to overlook all that stuff anyway. i just feel like there's as little questions about who ben simmons is as a player as any guy in the league, we know his strengths and weaknesses, his game has never changed. what new info can possibly be gleaned in the next 2-3 months

yeah as you mention the other more pertinent piece of this is another team having its own hand forced. simmons’ value won’t change drastically but another team could see its position weaken. there is an element of fantasy GMing here where daryl assumes this entire ordeal is not going to grate on everyone to a degree that harms the team but simply from a negotiating perspective I can see what he’s trying to do

the sixers picked a really bad time to be at a crossroads now that it seems milwaukee abs potentially brooklyn are looking like major players in the medium term

brooklyn... has their own issues

i agree that its pretty much pointless charade but philly at least wants to buy time for a team to decide that it wants simmons more than they thought and maybe it even go so well that teams might think that philly would be ok with keeping him, the second part is prob wishful thinking at this point its seeming like they prob wouldve been better off just letting him be away from the team til a trade happened

brooklyn... has their own issues

― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:31 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh I feel pretty good that they’ll be fine, they’re the best team in the east without kyrie imo

i'll tell you what joel embiid better not turn an ankle or something in the first 10-14 days of the season

yeah as you mention the other more pertinent piece of this is another team having its own hand forced. simmons’ value won’t change drastically but another team could see its position weaken. there is an element of fantasy GMing here where daryl assumes this entire ordeal is not going to grate on everyone to a degree that harms the team but simply from a negotiating perspective I can see what he’s trying to do

the sixers picked a really bad time to be at a crossroads now that it seems milwaukee abs potentially brooklyn are looking like major players in the medium term

― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:29 PM (forty-four seconds ago)

yeah if you didn't run an organization staffed by players and employees who are actual humans and who have to show up to work every day to deal w/ complete chaos, holding onto a ben simmons until you get the exact trade you want makes sense. of course this has always been the issue w/ the heinke/morey worldview so i guess nothing new for the sixers

lmao the last graph of this shams article with tons of inside sixers info

The 76ers are not trying to move Simmons and have made clear that they will not deal him at this time, according to sources. The franchise wants Simmons to show up to practices and games, to be engaged and to perform to his capabilities. Simmons is not against playing, but he is not mentally ready yet, sources insist.

brooklyn... has their own issues

― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:31 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh I feel pretty good that they’ll be fine, they’re the best team in the east without kyrie imo

― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:33 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

bucks might have something to say about that

Love those insistent sources xp

ben is suspended for game 1 which is in new orleans, then they're home vs the nets i doubt he plays. then they have 2 more on the road. starting 10/28 they're at home for 4 straight... does he play in any of those games?

brooklyn... has their own issues

― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 5:31 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

eh I feel pretty good that they’ll be fine, they’re the best team in the east without kyrie imo

― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, October 19, 2021 2:33 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think id take the bucks still. their vibes are better and they have the title glow now.

sixers have pelicans, OKC, detroit twice and the knicks twice in their first 10 games, lucky break for them

very curious to see if some of the different stuff the bucks in the finals with giannis will carry over to this season, feel like they mightve unlocked something there

i think the bucks will be improved

their offense was so prone to going to shit at a moments notice that if they can just not do that theyll be very tuff 2 beat

playing giannis as more of a big man could help with that and makes a ton of sense and also worked in the finals where they won the title

coincidentally it was also a thing ive been saying they should do for years

jrue would prob play better under those conditions too

tbh their offense looked clogged in the toilet like into game 7 vs the nets. we'll see. the hawks series i'm not sure you can even glean much from that match up & so much of their offensive success vs the suns came down to giannis having a few huge outlier FT shooting performances (to his credit). if he can actually get his FT% up above 70% that would be as big as anything else, especially in the playoffs when they need him to just mash the ball into the paint in big games. not that any of this will matter in the regular season anyway. i think they'll have a tougher road to the title this playoffs than last so there might be another level of improvement they need to get to in order to repeat