Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

also i loaded all the answers for this thread and decided it is the #onethread

who would have thought that in 2021 people would like Dave Matthews more than Dave Chappelle

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Yeah, I think "Say Goodbye" is the weakest track on "Crash". Not a terrible tune, but I'd much rather listen to the other songs on the album.

― Lone Wanderer Mark II,

"Stay" has Doritos breath it wants to share with you.

think there are a good number of people that saw the DMB scene in Lady Bird and had a reevaluation of a band like DMB they felt ashamed to like at that age.

What’s cool abt them to me at the time was they seemed kind of sophisticated. Also it made a lot of sense of you were into like, classic rock, world music, jazz, jam bands, just an amalgamation of stuff that felt right at the time

"don't drink the water" is such a dope song

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, October 18, 2021 6:20 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

All of Before These Crowded Streets is legit. I suspect it was at least partially inspired by OK Computer: it's the only one of their pre-Stand albums that feels like it has a cohesive narrative structure; it's full of religious imagery; the growling angry Dave energy on "The Last Stop," "Don't Drink the Water," and "Halloween" is very "You don't remember, you don't remember/ Why don't you remember my name?" Also the album that I think showcases Carter the most.

it's actually pretty dark musically, which is why I loved it as a brooding high schooler, and probably the only one I'd revisit other than Under the Table and Dreaming

does the dark stuff happen because of the oral dave did in 'Rapunzel'? is that the message? was it the oral?

the album opens with:

"Come and relax now
Put your troubles down
No need to bear
The weight of your worries here
Let them all fall away"

and then immediately after that dave is doing some oral

well, yeah

and tim reynolds plays kevin eubanks licks while he does it

OMG, those lyrix(!)

so now you have dave, leno, and oral in your head while you're driving your kids to school. it is his darkest work.

indexed i need to know if you've heard the lillywhite sessions and how they compare to busted stuff for u

I dreamed I was in this really weird musical last night with an abusive director that would SCREAM at you if you did something he didn't like or get a line wrong, and part of the show involved me playing "Crash into Me", except the lyrics were different, and since I haven't played that song on a guitar since 1998, I was messing it up.

the story of this dream is now being worked into a DMB-themed musical titled "It's Just Too Much"

oh yeah Rapunzel's worse than Crash's "And I come into you"! Also this:

Pantala Naga Pampa
Dave Matthews Band
Track 1 on
Before These Crowded Streets
The song’s title comes from a phrase an Indian chef for the band would utter in Tamil. In English, the phrase means “I have a python in my pants.”

xp in your dream, did you fret-5 on the b-string with your pinkie? could not stand how smug people were when they played it like that, and it's worse.

fuuuck no that's grounds for a beating!

"but it's the way dave plays it live". yeah well dave also uses an mic-less pickup live that makes his guitar sound like farts.

*a mic-less

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indexed i need to know if you've heard the lillywhite sessions and how they compare to busted stuff for u

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:51 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haven't listened to either in at least a decade but will revisit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omm8aM0TxlY

i love that the only full album upload of the lillywhite sessions on youtube is this dumb game

Listening now. Not to go back to the same well, but is the "JTR" chorus an intentional interpolation of the "Rain down/come on rain down on me" bit of "Paranoid Android"?

it's definitely possible

All of Before These Crowded Streets is legit. I suspect it was at least partially inspired by OK Computer: it's the only one of their pre-Stand albums that feels like it has a cohesive narrative structure; it's full of religious imagery; the growling angry Dave energy on "The Last Stop," "Don't Drink the Water," and "Halloween" is very "You don't remember, you don't remember/ Why don't you remember my name?" Also the album that I think showcases Carter the most.

― Indexed, Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:23 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the crazy part about this stuff -- and what makes before these crowded streets so interesting i think -- is it really goes against the grain of what dmb's like ... audience & marketing & the cliche version of them really is, to me. As if their entire image was about smuggling this dark brooding stuff into ... sorry john mayer ... a john mayer record, him as like a distillation of what made them appealingly fratty

or maybe at the time bc of grunge this kind of sour energy fit completely within frattiness & i'm just seeing it backwards, as darkness kind of bled from frat music in the 00s

I don't have a great view of all the live albums they've put out over the years but I believe Live in Chicago was recorded on the Before These Crowded Streets tour and has some pretty great stuff on it. Need to go back to it but always loved this version of "What Would You Say" with Maceo Parker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNB2rYfc7pk

i have actually never listened to under the table and dreaming in full. "satellite" is lovely

How do you feel about "Typical Situation"?

Very nostalgic all of this is in a very personal way that goes way beyond whether it's "cool" or not. Hard to explain.

i really have yet to dislike a song lol, "typical situation" was a highlight

i recommend the music video for satellite if you haven't seen it

I wondered how much more dark brooding is on Before these Crowded Streets than sous la table. I sometimes think the biggest difference is the choice of lead single. So I tried pairing up similar tracks:

life is good song: The Best of What's Around - Pantala Naga Pampa
just goofin song: What Would You Say - Stay (Wasting Time)
thinkin bout stuff song: Satellite - Spoon
internal suffering growler song: Rhyme & Reason - Halloween
uncomfortably "sexy" song: Lover Lay Down - Rapunzel
things ain't so bad, i really should be happy song: Jimi Thing - Pig
spooky, driving verses with happy chorus song: Warehouse - The Stone
carpe diem(B): Ants Marching - The Dreaming Tree

This is where the pairings become worse:
Pay for What You Get - The Last Stop I'd say these are both dark and brooding though with themes of very different scale. I'd say 'Pay For What You Get' is darker due to the more personal scale and the lack of hope/remedy.

Typical Situation - Don't Drink the Water Typical situation obviously inverts the dark brooding in the chorus.

Dancing Nancies - Crush Lyrics are obv different, but I swear you could play the 'Crush' bassline over 'Dancing Nancies' and it would fit. please try it in your head. These songs are similar.

always just thought this band was boring, saw em live twice in the late 90, total snoozefest. Idk, my uncle has played in a lot of funky acid jazz type bands that jam out and I like that stuff a lot more.

Did your uncle jam out in a football stadium?

I worry about potential bias from venue size, expectation, degree to which the performer is your uncle, etc.

this band was my first conert :( i don't remember anything about it

yeah nah i guess I just mean, using “jazz chords” and stuff. I guess dmb had stuff like that but idk wasn’t feeling their jammage

i have always loathed DMB after i did a summer stock production where i roomed with a guy who wouldn't stop fucking playing it all day and all night
don't feel bad about not reinvestigating this now

Was it a Dave Matthews Band musical you were in

DMB was always weird to me because when they were getting big I knew a bunch of people who went to college with him, and one who dated him. The general consensus was that he was a goofball who told poop jokes

The bear eating its own head malfunctioned again last night in the technically ambitious "What Would You Play." Commenting on the disastrous state of the production, Dave Matthews said he is "shakin like a monkey, a lil baby."

I recall a good poop joke told on a certain bridge in chicago

xp it was love's labor's lost iirc

and maybe not xp

full band "#41" sounds like Jean Valjean singing "Who Am I?"

At the time, my reasons were named Brock, Chad, Tad, Chip, Carter, Justin, Lance, Rick, The Stever, et al.

https://preview.redd.it/z6yxmj1c65ty.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=621cde3a4c7a05043d8803e32a478eb87b326ba5

Oh god, identify a single post that causes horrifying flashbacks.

I should've included "Trigger Warning: Douchebag hats".

Happy DMB-Tour-Bus-Dumps-Shit-On-Tourists Day