Shall we maybe anticipate David Gordon Green and Danny McBride's HALLOWEEN sequel/reboot?

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and tbh i liked the angry mob staircase scenes, they stressed me the hell out

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

Given the budget and talent potential, happy HK was a Peacock freebie. The entire "evil dies tonight" hospital crowd section with the DO YOU SEE?! "now he's turning us into monsters" line, every scene with Tommy Doyle over acted by intensely staring, jaw-clenching AMH* and his prop bat, every scene with the granddaughter (back with the jerk boyfriend, now she's a vigilante, etc.), JLC philosophizing = groan. On the plus side, the film looked great. Cool that the same Lindsey actress from the first Halloween returned to play her as an adult. And always good to see Judy Greer. Wish she was in the 3rd.. * To be fair, that's how he always looks.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 October 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link

y'know what really makes me mad about Halloween: Resurrection is if the dude on the hood of the car WASN'T Michael, and his throat was crushed so he couldn't talk, why the fuck was he acting maniacal like Michael while he was on top of the vehicle.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"One more day 'til Halloween (Ends), one more day 'til ... Silver Shamrock!"

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link

Halloween Ends is now described as Laurie Strode's "journey". Maybe they're defining "journey" as "stuck in a runaway car in a '70s movie as the car plummets off a cliff"?

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

it’s completely unthought marketing speak BUT this one is set four years after the other two, and those suggest strongly that Green/McBride are intersted in showing character development for their Laurie

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

i'm excited.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

I have seen twice now. I think I liked it, with reservations.

Ultimately, they opted not to go with the obvious tack, where Michael returns years later, formulaicly stabs his way through Haddonfield, and then final boss battle only he loses this time. this time, more examining the effects on tragedy on a community, and how it sometimes rips communities apart (think 9/11). How Myers has left everybody suspicious and paranoid and therefore the violence continues long after he disappears, but now it's civilian on civilian.

Lot of things underdeveloped, so it's not without flaws. It seems a wee bit hard to swallow that Laurie turns on Corey so abruptly, after initially being so sympathetic (that there's dialogue from Corey stating exactly this doesn't exactly make the flaw go away). But it is interesting, the examination of copycat killers, in that copycat killers don't kill for the reason their predecessors did. they are often chasing the glamour, or co-opting the image of the killer for their own purposes. Michael kills indiscriminately, Corey is going after his tormentors, anybody who fucked with him (or his girlfriend). Radio DJ receptionist really the only 'collateral damage'.

I think the sequences with Corey as killer were framed well and effective. I do think there was a missed opportunity to give the town's reaction to those slayings, mistaking them for Michael, and plunging into chaos. Likewise, Michael himself was more of a supporting character in his own franchise, but I get the idea - he's elder now and severely weakened from the beating he took four years ago, so now he's living in a cave and just opportunistically picking off passers-by, not going out and stalking anymore. I think he spares Corey as he looks into his eyes and sees some of himself in him, whereas Corey reinvigorates him enough to get him to go back into society for a few kills, as he gets his taste for it again. but his weakness is why Laurie overpowers him so easily.

as I said, it doesn't all land. there are a lot of leaps of logic (Allyson basically wanting to rip Corey's clothes off the moment she sees him for the first time being one). but Corey's nihilism is at least understandable - he was headed for big things in life, going to college for engineering, and instead he's working a low-paying job as a mechanic, living with his mother who treats him like he's 12, and not being able to venture into public because he's always recognized. and the people tormenting him are doing so for vanity (as the dad points out) rather than real concern for the kid he killed. wearing a mask lets him finally hide and become someone/something else.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

fuck. welp. hope nobody enters fearing spoilers. sorry I fucked that up.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

New John Carpenter hit quote just droppedhttps://t.co/nfMFAe7lGE pic.twitter.com/CnC9OZxNuE

— John Frankensteiner (@JFrankensteiner) October 12, 2022



lol it’s nice that legendary old person isn’t online enough to have heard of a silly critical term but also v funny to see ppl projecting their weird issues with the film studio A24 and the idea of horror with Themes, and then literally the next line of this interview is carpenter saying “nah but I get you, horror has themes prestige or not” and then on top of that the last 2 halloween movies are “Jamie Lee Curtis explains the themes in a 20 minute voiceover”

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link

lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

Really don’t hate this trilogy, the last one felt v unaware of how daft it was (in good & bad ways) this one was really going for it so it was easy to lean into the groaners. Honestly the best scenes tend to be vignettes completely unconnected to the main story & there are effective gruesome kills imo

There is some surprisingly bad filmmaking in all three

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 15 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

Sebadoh!

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

whoops, meant that as hidden text. thread now awash in spoilers.

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

Michael does not kill Sebadoh, fwiw

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link

^didn't stay for the mid-credits tag!

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

ends was the best of the three imo, brought home the themes of kills and also had a grody dark corrupted vibe anytime they strayed near michael’s hole

i love michael’s hole

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

sorry forgot this wasn’t the gay thread

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

lmao

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

the kill sequences felt like an top tier 80s slasher flick

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

this one was really going for it so it was easy to lean into the groaners

that's part of why I liked this way more than the last one, though it still feels at times like Green isn't a weird enough director (anymore). like one of the Carrie-ish scenes with Corey and his mom, punctuated by his dad watching from the shadows and saying "I want you to find love" -- I merely appreciated the attempt.

loved however:

the opening scene, the horror of sensing what's about to happen combined with the horror of it happening. plus the way the kid says "ugly-ass boy" more like "ugly ass-boy" (in that kid way of slightly mishearing something and repeating it)

Laurie grinding Michael into paste and then just adding a paragraph to her book, instead of rethinking the whole thing. sort of a hack move, but felt appropriate.

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

uh, hidden text doesn't go across paragraphs? sorry all.

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

swear to god the mullet kid looked exactly like someone in my 4th grade class. talked the same too.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

also why did so many people in Illinois have NY/Jersey accents.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I saw Halloween Ends last night on Amazon Prime and enjoyed it a lot, it's probably the best of the Green trilogy

extra points for all the menacing shots of empty kitchens and the way that motif is repurposed at the very end

the discussion of the franchise itt makes me want to see the few I've missed

Brad C., Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link

its funny how many people outright hate this movie, and when I ask them to elucidate , they basically map out that they wanted the same shit that always happens in every Halloween movie. where's the fun in that.

doesn't mean this movie is inherently a success in trying something different (I liked it, but I can see arguments against parts of it), but kinda feel like this is the Last Jedi of teh Halloween series

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

It’s easily the best of these new ones

piedro àlamodevar (wins), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

low bar

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 19 February 2023 02:28 (one year ago) link

Seriously. The previous two, but particularly the second one, were so bad, I don't care whether the third is any good at all. Never going to see it.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 February 2023 04:42 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

So what is up with David Gordon Green? What a weird career path, to divide your time pretty evenly between prestige indie dramas, sophomoric comedies, lame horror reboots and oddball Danny McBride HBO projects.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link

he likes to make money and work with his friends, I assume.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:50 (six months ago) link

Wayne Wang had a similarly eclectic “One for me” (a personal project) followed up by “one for them”(studio work), before eventually deciding to stick with the indie route.

Blumhouse must be shitting itself over Exorcist: Believer’s extremely poor opening weekend. They spent $400 MILLION on just the rights to the franchise. That doesn’t include the cost of this one film

beamish13, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:17 (six months ago) link

I've had three friends see it and my brother and all of them were bored to tears.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:30 (six months ago) link

I've heard nothing but bad things about the new Exorcist, funnily enough I actually liked the trailer I saw before Oppenheimer and was mildly curious until I heard all the feedback.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:33 (six months ago) link

Possession horror generally sucks with a few exceptions

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link


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