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but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into

Not to mention his shitty bullying behavior towards the new towel boy

ok

it’s reached a point where it is not enjoyable to talk abt Ted Lasso itt anymore so i will refrain

Sorry vg :(

<3 s’alright. you’re not wrong.

Some kind of sitcom gravity thing, wherein the characters end up becoming too likeable or unlikeable in a formulaic way.

“Sam and Rebecca,” huh? Where have we heard that before

They make a joke about it on the show too

Midnight Mass - “where do we go when we die” convo is a drag. I came for creepy priests not bad Christian movie.

_but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid_

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into

Meantime

https://gizmodo.com/y-the-last-man-canceled-at-fx-as-its-first-season-ends-1847881430

I'm bailing on that after last week - the Washington-based arc is awful and especially the Meghan McCain/Ivanka Trump character.

I'll ride it all the way to the ground. It had enough interesting ideas to keep me on board.

Just read the trade paperbacks IMO.

I hate 99% of comics.

So do I but the Y GNs are good.

Oh shit, so after all those delays and false starts, they finally got the show going and fucked it up badly enough that it's one season?

looks like it

Cancelled before it even finished airing! I guess I won't bother with it after all

I honestly didn't expect this to be the one that crashed/burned of the 'long delayed they say they're working on it' series that finally appeared around now in comparison to Foundation, but here we are. (And as we've been saying on the thread about it, Foundation is doing pretty well so far!)

I read the comics a long time ago andseem to remember they were fairly humourous but the show has been pretty much relentlessly grim

Watched the first episode of Squid Game and liked it okay enough, then I decided to start re-watching episodes of The Genius instead.

It feels overwhelming how many movies and TV shows are "out there" right now... I suppose the pandemic halted production/delayed release on a number of things, and now there's a deluge

I like any director/showrunner who uses a recurring stable of actors, it always feels really comforting and fun to me, whether it's the AHS franchise or Mike Flanagan's stuff. I watched up to (and including) the penultimate episode of Midnight Mass, and was texting a friend about it yesterday before watching the finale. He said, "the only word Midnight Mass hates more than "Catholic" is "Cut!"" and I agreed. I said, "I haven't seen the finale, but if this was Stephen King, there'd be an appearance of a hand of god at the end, or the kids would fight evil by fucking". Flanagan's ending was less insulting and yet more insulting, like a figure skater who is building up to a big finish and then just elects to not make the jump.

I'm told I should watch Evil next.

I'm scoring a Netflix series atm myself, it is interesting to kinda get a sense of the relationship between studio-and-showrunners, it feels very hands-off in terms of content, but "go go go" in terms of deadlines.

I'd love to hear some reports back for sure. If there's anything that's struck me about the current era of prestige TV it's that the scores have often actually been pretty distinctive and effective, much more than mere cues and filler. I do see lots of the same names (Bear McCreary, Jeff Russo ... ).

Having seen a lot of Flanagan's stuff, and just rewatched "Oculus" again last night, his shtick really seems to be "Stephen King but slower." Which usually works, tbh. Lots of crying, too, and family trauma drama.

Bf said yesterday: "'Hill House' was a horror movie masquerading as a show about grief, and 'Midnight Mass' was a show about grief masquerading as a horror movie"

All the current prestige TV scores are extremely Kontakt-based in a very entry-level way. I hear them with an appreciation for their economy and efficiency. It's kind of pleasing to watch Flanagan, for example, and be able to identify which out-of-the-box sample bank the composer was using... same with "White Lotus". It makes me feel like I have a license to cut corners. "Oh, literally you can just press 'go' on some Mysteria samples and call it a score? good to remember ;)"

just gonna revive the Ted Lasso discourse for a hot second to say the transformation of Nate was 100% believable and, in some way, inevitable once you saw the way his dad treated him

I find that the TV scores that have been catching my ear lately aren't terribly ambitious but they are very effective in their simplicity. Like "For All Mankind," I think the composer of that one is Russo (who used to be in Tonic!), and it's really a lot of variations on a theme. But that theme is lovely, and the music works so well. Reminds me of the approach of someone like Carter Burwell in a lot of the Coen Bros. stuff.

All the current prestige TV scores are extremely Kontakt-based in a very entry-level way.

It's been that way for a while now, hasn't it? Or at least happens so much I don't even notice it anymore. I still think there's levels to how well these sampled instruments are used - I kinda liked the White Lotus score, which didn't try or need to shoot for realism, but thought Vigil's score was very fake and anonymous for a thriller show, like something I would make! (That whole show felt like it was made quickly.)

I feel like I've seen or read or heard the story being told by Hulu's "Dopesick" 100 times (hell, one of my best friends is a lead lawyer in the Ohio trial in progress), but damn, this cast makes it tempting: Kaitlyn Dever, Michael Keaton, Peter Sarsgard, Rosario Dawson, Will Poulter, Michael Stuhlbarg, Mare Winningham, Ray McKinnon ...

We watched the first episode and it felt pretty on-the-nose.

the (nonfiction) book is excellent but even w such a good cast i feel like there’s no way to avoid corniness by dramatizing it
it feels like a bad idea to me

They had the family literally sitting at a big long table in the wing of a gallery they donated, with a lawyer at either end and a big gap in the middle, talking past each other using the lawyers. That felt really freaking clumsy.

I must admit some of what was revealed I did not know - particularly that they invented the concept of "breakthrough pain".

Keaton's good in this though, if a little "shucks I'm just a simple cornball mining town GP".

It’s kind of strange to watch these shows filmed in the past year, and which take place in an alternate, non-Covid universe (or maybe “2019?).

Just finished The Other Two... LMAO at the final joke (esp. in relation to my comment above)!

it's a great punchline

I tried to watch squid game but it felt like a huge cliche to me and very 2D. I also couldn’t give two shits about the main character and didn’t believe he even cared about his mother or daughter.

We were ready to tap out after 1.5 episodes but kept going and it gets better.

man alive you are correct, he did not care about his wife or daughter, at least not enough. he’s a thoughtless asshole. this is established in the first 5 minutes. but the show, like a lot of good shows, is about what happens to people when they’ve been through extreme experiences

i binged 6 episode of this in a row yesterday, fact fans, and as soon as i make myself some lunch i am finishing this shit off

i think, also like a lot of good shows (breaking bad?) it starts from a position of pure pulp melodrama and then starts finding nuance and complication as the characters stretch to become better (or worse) versions of themselves

there are great moments of tenderness but it is quite a grim and nasty show for much of its running time, let’s brr, & i wouldn’t blame anyone for just deciding that’s not how they want to spend their time

there seem to be a lot of movies/shows lately about rich weirdos entrapping normal people in elaborate torture/debasement schemes for their own amusement

this might be the best one though

Yeah i can't be at it rn. Did recently finish sweet and funny Netflix k-drama "When the Camellia Blooms" and highly recommend it. Small town cop, killer mystery, romantic comedy stuff.

It is gory but I don't find it that grim (as the whole premise is so ridiculous) compared to say some of the serial killer/crime shows around these days

Are the “games” in Squid Game televised/broadcast (is it that kind of “dystopia”), or is the thing just a private horror? (it definitely sounds too gruesome for me, I’m not gonna watch it)

They're televised but only for a private audience of extremely rich people

Gotcha thx

Anyone else watching Invasion?

Was enjoying the slow build up of the first couple of episodes but as they released three at once was expecting a bit more from the third one, not just more glacial paced drip feeding of the actual invasion and at least a cliffhanger where I didn't have to Google Japanese words to find out its significance

watched ep 1 tonight & like it overall, bad accents notwithstanding lol

This season of You (which has been a generally trashy show all around) is fucking hilarious.

I'll probably watch it even though it is basically trash

entirely entertaining

Speaking of composing for TV, I always liked the score to "Only Murders in the Building," so I was excited to read this interview with the composer:

https://www.avclub.com/breaking-down-the-main-musical-theme-of-only-murders-in-1847875310

But then I read the comments, and someone noted:

I know Nick (Diamonds) Thorburn, from The Unicorns/Islands fame was pissed at the theme for this show, saying it pretty much straight ripped off the theme from the Serial podcast, which he wrote.

Funny how there’s zero mention of he or that pod here.

I'm one of the few that never listened to "Serial," so I listened to the theme and ... yeah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxC6qXL6-HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0v6dmme1DU

Assuming that comment's not from you, fgti, I wonder if you've heard similar murmurings.