2021 NLDS Los Angeles Dodgers vs San Francisco Giants

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it’s just not feasible to go to the video for every borderline strike call. that this one ended a series is unfortunate, but so it goes

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

and unlike the denkinger play, a check-swing is a judgment call

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

I understand both of you, but in all honesty, a safe/out play at first seems no more or no less a judgement call to me than a checked swing--or at least in this case, where the bat is so clearly not even close to where you'd call a strike. Anyway, I won't mention it again. I do feel for Giants fans, though; I think they got screwed worse than 2003 Cubs fans or 1996 Orioles fans.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

Okay, one last comment. What I think:

Managers obviously should not be allowed to appeal ball/strike calls.
Managers should not be allowed to appeal checked-swing calls.
Umpires should not be allowed to review ball/strike calls.

But: umpires should be allowed to review checked-swing calls, if someone on the crew feels one is needed. 99% of them would still not warrant a review--they would, indeed, fall under the judgement-call umbrella, or the game-situation wouldn't warrant doing so. But this is a rare and extreme case, and I think a review should have been in order.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

the ump that made the call had the only angle from which to do so — no other ump on the field would ever question it. if you want the ump in the review room in NYC to be proactive, that’s feasible but also raises a ton of other issues

and just as a human nature thing, i doubt that umpires will be too interested in overruling coworkers who didn’t ask for help

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link


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