David Goyer adapting Asimov's Foundation books for Apple+ (Previously: Jonathan Nolan adapting Asimov's Foundation books for HBO)

less 'action' is fine (and that fight scene was terrible) but this whole sequence with the offworlders -- which is really pretty straight-forward? -- is now going to leak into a fourth episode

we long ago knew which defenders were righteous and which were lame; let us move on to the next stage already

But the invaders have a plan and as we know in serial TV SF when it's stated there's a plan everything is plotted out to the last desire. Anyway there must be some kind of way out of here.

of course! but let's get to it. i don't need a flashback of anacreon being devastated for 20 minutes to establish motive.

btw am i alone in wishing that hari was not being pronounced 'harry'

i'm sure we can all look forward to my similar complaints whenever dune hits the torrentz and i manage to watch it! <3 <3

"Say Captain there's some big gun pointed our direction."

"Eh whatever."

Wasn't the gun what they cloaked earlier in the episode?

Didn't seem clear it was still cloaked by the time it was just 1K away.

It probably makes a good point about decadent colonial powers on the wane. Just fly in there expecting an easy rout and then get taken out by one well aimed shot.

Oh it wasn't clear at all,. I just assumed it must be otherwise what was the point of the whole cloaking scene in the first place xp

Getting pretty Game of Thronesy here

gonna name my next cat 'empire'

A rotating trio of cat

my biological father has had a series of (i think siamese) cats going back decades and named each of them 'mozart'

which is . . . fucking horrific, honestly. but would have certainly made better sense with 'empire'

This show needs a cat emperor.

obviously he should have named the cats duncan idaho

really enjoying the show but the lingering "ok, they've set up several events that are going to happen... maybe in the next episode?" feeling continues because apparently we have more things to go through

Hmm at the ending of this latest one. (I'm...assuming at this point the idea is that Hari set up both the Raven and the Vault so he can chill near Helicon and deliver live updates via the Vault or something. And Gaal like...hibernates in between crises? Guess we'll see!)

saddened that the phrase 'what's your ask' will still be in use 10,000 years from now

On the other hand, good to know that Touch ID will still work after 700 years

oh no my first law of robotics

When “Foundation” Gets the Blockbuster Treatment, Isaac Asimov’s Vision Gets Lost

some points, some misses imo

Two episodes in, I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing, just a lot of exposition and CGI backgrounds.

Real 300/Zack Snyder's Owl Movie vibe.

I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing

well this is true to Asimov's vision

haha otm

Lol.

Burn...

Martin Skidmore to thread!

idk man

Mm. It's definitely heading towards a 'huh' season ender at this rate.

i haven't been bored (except by the narration), so that's cool. just seems like we're still more or less in the same place we were six episodes ago

Meantime we got this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5CBWy17y70

How does a robot have a religious belief!?

I like this show, but I think I'm glad I never read the books.

Visually, I keep thinking of what someone could do with an Earthsea adaptation (yeah again, I know), with the right casting finally, and stuff like Ged finding the floating city in the ocean and etc.

I'm enjoying this as well. Sometimes some half decent sci-fi shit is just what you need and best avoiding the plethora of hottakes!

well. sucks to be azura

We were saying she'd be better off just jumping into the pond than what lay ahead.

Also, did not see what Demerzel did coming. But maybe its because she too is beginning to go against her nature (same as brother dawn and day seem to have)? I mean shes a robot so that shouldnt be possible, but ...

hmm tried to be vague but is that too spoilery?

appreciated that brother dusk angrily flung the stuff at his painting with his *left* hand, and wonder whether that was done on purpose

anyway, solid finale with some unexpected things -- i look forward to the next season whenever that is

Yeah it's definitely not Asimov's story anymore, broadest of outlines aside. Still, I'll watch. Wondering if the time jump means going straight to Hober Mallow (and thus skipping the thoroughly cynical view of religion in the intervening Seldon crisis).

xp

well spotted there [what was posted in hidden text] probably was on purpose.

Yes, I missed that!

I'm a little confused by the continued presence of somebody I thought Hugo had missed the landing on the Invictus and floated off into space.
I thought it odd when they came back out of the warp over Terminus and he reappeared. Did I see one character in a spacesuit do that and think it was him or was there a further plan being enacted.

Quite enjoying this and wondering how much of it I read. I think I got several of the series from my uncle's collection when he died. Definitely think I got some Dune from him as well as Ed Sanders The Family. Definitely thinking I did get into a few of them at one point. But it is decades ago.

I think Hugo faked his miss/death so he could go for reinforcements

He did. He deliberately flew off so he could sneak back in.

(but yes, all those bits flying about in spacesuits and nothing else and somehow succeeding were redic implausible but I'm bad at willing suspension of disbelief)

i was more bitter about the anacreons surviving the naked jump and then somehow being allowed to take over ships again

fuckin figure it out, thespins

Man, this show. It seems like it has some pretty obvious flaws - lot of telling instead of showing, unevenly paced, some so-so acting - but I loved these 10 episodes. I do think it kind of lacks the spirit of the Asimov books (was very weird to see a robot kill someone!) but keeps the scope and the interesting ideas, and the writers somehow turned that into something very compelling and visually gorgeous. So glad that it's getting another season!

Ya good point about the robot

Tbf, the robot laws never made a lot of sense

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2021 season is nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Sorta slipped past but Season 2 went ahead and filmed earlier this year -- only image released so far is this:

https://dl.moviesr.net/images/dn9sN.jpg

Which, hm. (Flashback to Foundation founding? Some later meetup with another clone?) -- new cast members: Isabella Laughland, Kulvinder Ghir, Mikael Persbrandt, Sandra Yi Sencindiver, Holt McCallany, Ella-Rae Smith, Dimitri Leonidas, Ben Daniels, Rachel House, and Nimrat Kaur.

And per burblings today but which date back a couple of months as well, Season 3 renewed and filming starting in April, so the five season plan may actually happen here.