The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom is running a telethon today so you won't get any.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

#45. Hellboy (Hellboy)

(59 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/hellboy-746341.jpg

Like a savvier, more knowledgeable and more indestructible Marv. Just as key is the fact that he's out there in the world, with friends who actually look up to him, and the fact that he tangles with Nazis, Rasputin, vampires, werefrogs, dragons, ghosts, demons and manages to tell them all to shut up in so many words, cos he's got the Right Hand of Doom to back him up, you know. (Leee)

Best moment: From Wake the Devil, when he jumps out of the plane with the jetpack that doesn't work, stubbornly clicking the ignition without success while freefalling, and muttering, "Aw crap," which sums up his appeal: unprepossessing, straight-forward and with understated humor. (Leee)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Ā£1100 raised so far, by the way.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicely done!

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Let us not forget PANCAKES!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Was Hellboy created with Ron Perlman in mind? Because WOW.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The first meeting between the director and Mignola when they were making the film was apparently one they were both nervous about, because each of them was going to insist that it had to be Perlman for the lead role.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

perlman is so perfect. i wish the movie was better! it really starts out as my favourite movie ever and then goes pretty much to crap!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Sez you!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Tho you're kinda right. But not really.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I was disappointed that HB kept fighting the same kind of monsters over and over. YAWN.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i was dissapointed they had to have some douchey normal dude be the nominal star cuz they were afraid we wouldn't be able to identify with hellboy!! which is BS!!

and yeah, what huk said. when he first fought those monsters i figured it was a ghostbusters/slimer thing, the first ugly bad guy before the other stuff happens... but it was really just those cgi things.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Hollywood movie in "trying-to-tell-a-conventional-uncomplicated-story" shocker!

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

b-b-b-but trying to have two protagonists just complicated things MORE!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure the sequel will be better, because they've dispensed with all the whatever, and can now just tell a story.
That's, like, my pet peeve with superhero movies (although Batman Begins is an exception, because it takes the tack of doing the origin as its whole reason for being, it's raison d'etre if you will) is that they waste time with fussy origins and introducing these characters who have been in the public consciousness for decades, when they should just shut up and tell a good story.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Spidey 1 is an exception to this - the origin section is an absolute joy, then he just fights a Power Ranger and moons over Kirsten Dunst for an hour.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Spidey 1 is an exception to this - the origin section is an absolute joy, then he just fights a Power Ranger and moons over Kirsten Dunst for an hour.

ie, just like the comic!

Huk, the criticism you're making has absolutely no bearing on the movie "Hellboy" (unless of course Hellboy has been a top-tier character since 1930 and I just didn't notice).

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

No, no, it has nothing to do with the Hellboy movie. I know.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact, it's a most irrelevant point, since, y'know, X-Men didn't really do it, and, yeah, Spider-Man, that was, like, the emotional whatzit of Peter Parker and his eternal RagsMoralesā„¢ sadface. And then, um, whatever. Hulk, I think, is what started it, and I've just projected that onto EVERY MOVIE EVER.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

God, Hulk's a boring movie.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

IT IS NOT BORING, IT IS TRANQUIL

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Tranquil being an adjective one readily associates with the Hulk.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Hulk contemplate.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Hulk quietly impressed by flawless cinematography.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

HULK SMASH ILLUSION OF SELF AND ATTACHMENT TO MATERIAL WORLD!

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Hulk get pedicure between takes.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha!

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

HULK CENTER CHAKRAS BEFORE SMASH SUPERDOGS

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Hulk admire Ang Lee for daringly diverse range of subject matter

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Bah, you people have no poetry in your souls, only car crashes and ebola.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

HULK WANT TO TIPTOE ON TREES NOT BOUNCE AROUND GRAND CANYON LIKE STUPID SPIDERMAN

HULK CALL AGENT

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe agent have role for Hulk in period drama. Hulk look good in cravat.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

HULK HAVE BETTER ACTING CHOPS THAN PUNY CHOW YUN FAT

HULK HAVE RANGE AND PATHOS

HULK HAVE AGENT CALL JOHN WOO

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Best derailment ever.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

You're not supposed to say that about your own derailment. Even if it's true.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Hulk reads classic philosophy between fights.

Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

IF HULK GET CUT DO HULK NOT BLEED?

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 8 October 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

44. Mek-Quake (Ro-Busters; ABC Warriors)

(59 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/mek-712706.jpg

As with most Pat Mills characters, Mek-Quake is only really worth reading before about 1988. But his catalogue of golden moments before then makes him a worthy inclusion, and he's one of the most memorable characters in 2000AD. He started as the Ro-Busters' disaster squad's resident bulldozer, and has had a chequered career since as a demolition robot, a war droid, an ABC Warrior and even Tharg's personal hitman. Throughout Mek-Quake has been venal, stupid, and enormously violent. He's also been the perfect henchman, which is the key to his character - he has a simple, eager thuggishness which would be sinister if it wasn't played for laughs.

Greatest Moment: Nemesis the Warlock Book III, where Mek-Quake's gleeful brutality reaches an apex as he destroys the Gothic Empire's artificial moon, causing it to rain down on the planet while he gives his signature cry of "Big jobs!"

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I love his battle with TORQUE-ARMADA, rendered in some of the most deranged O'Neill art ever.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

My comic-reading childhood always seems so pedestrian when confronted by this FANTASTIC UK comics.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

"this" should be "these"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Huk, you should seriously consider investing in this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1840237945/qid=1129064989/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-8309900-4870466?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

I think you'd love it, it's one of the most insane reads in comicdom.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

This is why I Love I Love Comics (we should start an ILILC Board!).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

43. Tharg The Mighty (2000AD)

(61 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/tharg-775930.jpg

(a rare photo of the Mighty One, from the pages of CRASH! magazine. See! He's real!!)

"I, Tharg, from my alien head, bring you THE FUTURE" proclaimed the second-best ever strapline on a 2000AD cover. And he did, this green alien from Betelgeuse, introducing every prog of 2000AD to this day, aside from a handful where the non-scrot human staff attempted to retire him before reader protest brought him back.

Very much a creature of the 1970s, when most British weeklies had a figurehead character as editor, Tharg has outlasted them all, and starred in many strips of his own - all credited to T.M.O. (The Mighty One). His best value though was always on the letters pages, praising Earthlets for donating progs to a children's ward, damning Earthlets whose behaviour was insufficiently thrill-powered and forever talking up the ghafflebette new series to be coming "in the Spring". A national galactic treasure.

Greatest Moment: Tharg has a temper tantrum and threatens to destroy the planet. A huge crowd, mindful of the danger, gets together and sings 'For he's a jolly good alien'. "They attempt to soothe my anger with flattery! And it works!" He then puts up a statue of himself to commemorate the day he saved Earth from his own wrath.

Also the time when he tries to write and draw a prog himself and they have to take it away in a lead-lined van. "One glimpse and your mind will explode! Don't look at it!" (Vic Fluro)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Only number 43! Tharg is better than silly Galactus any day and he could beat Superman in a fight. Has Superman edited a comic? Does Galactus travel the light years to our puny world to unleash hyper heroes from the future? No and no!

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair we'll need several more volumes of Showcase before we can properly establish that Superman hasn't edited a comic.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

First one the list that I can say that I genuinely, unreservedly, love. Gutted that he's only 43 though!

I should search for the 2000AD threads, I think

steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Jimmy might have edited a comic, but Superman would have sabotaged it 'for his own good'.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Gosh Clark! This new Superman comic has you in it - as Superman! Its mysterious editor, 'B.W.', must be playing some kind of prank!"

"Yes, Jimmy...a prank.....grrr-rrr-rrr"

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link


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