Disco Inferno: please help me out

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If I asked for the same deal as Tom May, is there anything you want in return? Bearing in mind that a) I'm in Ghana and b) am shit at anything to do withh postage and repaying kindness.

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:50 (twenty years ago) link

hey, ned, if you could see your way to slipping two to cozen then, perhaps, he could carry one of them around until I stumble upon him at another hipstermania night out and he could give me that one and keep the other one for himself.

I mean, could you send an extra one to cozen that he could pass on, to me, ned?

thanks a lot!!

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

It can be done, RJG. Barima, shoot me your address plz.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

'hipstermania'!!! haha

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

otm

and, thanks ned!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 February 2004 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks Ned, super generous of ya.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

Yez is welcome.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago) link

I bought In Debt on Ebay today. Haven't found DI Go Pop yet, but I'm a-lookin'.

Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

One for me too, please Ned! I'll send you an email.

Bill E (bill_e), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks! I'll probably have to stop this for the moment, but next month I can get a new batch ready, so if anyone comes across this a bit late, patience. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, this latest batch of CDRs is now out in the mail so everyone should hopefully get theirs soon -- everything was done air mail and it was pretty cheap, rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

i still can't believe it, but i ordered a copy of technicolour from one of those dodgy import houses off amazon.com marketplace and they actually had a copy and sent it to me!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 2 February 2004 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

thanks a lot, ned!

thanks, cozen.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

...i just wanna thank ned for making the cdr available! makes a great soundtrack for an evening stroll .

william (william), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

:-) Glad you liked it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

I'd ask you for one of those CDRs Ned, but my system won't play 'em. Stupid machine...

Still, they'll be re-released one day won't they? I mean, there is a God isn't there?

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

How sucky! Here's the breakdown rerelease-wise -- as I muttered above, the rights to "Summer's Last Sound/Love Stepping Out" EP, as well as the earlier songs on In Debt, now belong to Vinita at Rocket Girl, who is considering what to do with them. The four EPs that followed, though, were all on Rough Trade, so should Mr. Travis and company want to put together something, that would be nice.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

I've got In Debt winging it's way to my house as we speak, and I'm looking forward to it's arrival. I've been out-bidded on DI Go Pop a couple of times on Ebay now, though. Other people suck.

I think I'll e-mail this Tavis guy and offer myself to him if he re-releases the EPs...

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

Geoff Travis. He might regard you bemusedly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

He's sitting on a whole heap of great stuff and doesn't appear to be in any hurry to re-release any of it.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

I have heard of this 'Scritti Politti'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

SHOCKING NEWS: NED IS WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING.

I e-mailed a nice man at Rough Trade Records who told me that in fact One Little Indian have the rights to those particular records.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

Well that's good, bug them! They have enough Bjork money around somewhere!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

Hah, "Bjork money". You're right, and she's got boxed sets and stuff now too.

I have sent them an e-mail. If they still refuse to re-print them, I'm going to start an online petition.

Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

Ask them to reissue Technicolour with the unreleased tracks referred to above as well and I think we're onto something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

One Little Indian own the rights to pretty much everything that Rough Trade still owned when it last went kaput IIRC.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago) link

damnit I used to see di go pop and in debt around used ALL THE TIME. I should have bought them all. if you're still looking, try gemm.com and musicstack.com; tracking down the actual eps is a little harder.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

ned's cd came in the mail, it's beautiful.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago) link

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

I am in fact going to be interested in everyone's reactions to it all (and remember, the tracklisting is posted upthread).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

Strangely enough I purchased this when it came out, partly I think becasue I liked Rough Trade's gear, but it didn't stick. So this thread has convinced me to put it on again. Daft git that I am.

mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

Please forgive the question coming from someone totally new to this band, but from a cursory listen DI Goes Pop seems a bit indebted to Dome, no? Esp. coming after the more song-oriented earlier material, i.e. are they working off of the Wire-becomes-industrial-dirge model? Just curious, does this make any sense, etc.

no opinion, Saturday, 7 February 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

There's definitely Wire sonic connections/inspirations; I tend to think of DI Go Pop as a revamp of 154 in ways.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

ha synchronicity almost

this arrived in the post today. much difft from technicolor huh?

rjg fix up look sharp.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

Play it and find out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

My mum says it arrived a few days ago. Nice one, Ned!
The big question is who's going to fly it over for me and when.

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, thanks so much for this and In Debt.

Why does everyone dismiss the first album so? Because it wasn't as sophisticated as D.I. Go Pop or the EPs? It still sounds fabulous.

From my one listen through, "D.I. Go Pop" sounds like the best song on the EPs--just unlike anything else I've ever heard. "Waking Up," the only song of theirs I knew, is wonderful, but it wasn't the half of it, really.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

Yez is welcome (both you and Barima). The In Debt material is great, "Emigre" and of course "Waking Up" are both spectacular, it just lives up to its name most of the time whereas what followed is like another world. And "DI Go Pop" the song is a mindblower, no question.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, Emigre definitely seemed like the best one on the album.

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

"A Night on the Tiles" is wonderfully... what is the word? Expressive, I think, of aural levity and the dazed quality of a night out. For me, "The Last Dance" and the even more glistening "The Long Dance" (variation/extension of the former) stand out as a great melody, and deeply felt.

Durutti Column (maybe snatches of that "Return Of..." debut) and the Chameleons are definitely vague comparison points. Also, they're at times like an avant-Go-Betweens, with tracks like "The Atheist's Burden"; its melody and the singer's voice carry that Go-Betweens lilt.
There are very pleasing connections for me in the use of sound, with the debut Matt Johnson record, "Burning Blue Soul"; vocals certainly less demonstrative though. "At The End of The Line" I'd suggest was one of those that reminds me at fleeting moments of BBS; a similarly thick, crystalline texture.

Overall, they seem to have a genuinely original sound, and crucially can't be easily pigeonholed. It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

He he... just listening to "It's A Kid's World", around the 3:30 mark 'til the fade; the Peter Howell Dr Who theme is sampled, is it not? :-) Who would have thought "Lust For Life" could be so productively combined with that...?

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

I seem to remember Andy Kellman first e-mailing me four years back expressing a bit of jealousy that I ended up doing those before he did! He got to do Loop, though, so we're even. ;-) Glad to hear more copies have arrived!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Oh hey Tom.

I got your I Love the 90s stuff yesterday. Thanks for getting it in.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

I think it's even more telling thanks to a fantastic comment way upthread by Tim Finney about _DI Go Pop_ (the album):

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

How different is D.I. Go Pop from the other stuff?

And why'd you send In Debt, but not that?

(Just curious because I thought that was supposed to be their definitive work)

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I think I sent In Debt because you asked me specifically! ;-) DI Go Pop is quite fantastical and if you go up to my first post on the thread right at the top, you'll find links to two separate reviews I did of it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

I've been totally overdosing on the Five EPs lately. Ned I am still eternally indebted to you for this mammoth mission of yours.

"The Long Dance"/"The Last Dance" is def. one of the only pieces of music that brings tears to my eyes every time without fail. "Second Language" is prettier overall but damn if the sudden explosions of guitar colour at the end of the former isn't the most gorgeously bittersweet thing ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 10:04 (twenty years ago) link

Always glad to help. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

ditto on the overdosement - and ned sent me mine a while ago (i'm the guy in portland, ned)

anyways, i usually profess not really to care about lyrics in rock music but damn if mr. crause doesn't spit (uh is that the right verb in this context) some of the most arresting lyrics i've heard in a while. especially on "summer's last sound." great delivery too! he's like a more nonchalant, apocalyptic barney sumner. and the coda to "it's a kid's world" is like one of the most achingly gorgeous minutes or so of music EVER. ian, aside from having a severely underrated band, must be one of the most underrated guitarists as well. i covet his tone

hjdsl, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

Must dig out the vinyl EPs when I get home next. They're fantastic records. Are they rarities now Ned? The covers should be put up on AMG. Still think "Footprints in Snow" is their masterstoke -- I've said it before on here but it's the most nostalgic sounding track of the 90's.

David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

Are they rarities now Ned?

They're out of print at least. How hard they are to find is anyone's guess (the Rough Trade stuff that is -- "Summer's Last Sound"/"Love Stepping Out" went out of print so quickly that I only got my copy [as did Donut Bitch his] thanks to Vinita J. from Che/Rocket Girl as a personal gift).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link


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