Alice Coltrane - S/D

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There's a rumor (AAJ) that Alice Coltrane has passed away.

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What the FUCK?!?!?!?!

Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Please someone clarify this now.

Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Nooooooooo. I really really really don't want this to be true.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

wiki page has been updated.
thread over at waxidermy -> http://www.waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=6929

:(((((

zappi (joni), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true. And, no, my source isn't the page but I trust it.

Oh, man. This is so sad.

Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, it's true, Lois Gilbert from Jazz Corner and Chris Albertson (jazz historian) are confirming it. no public confirmation yet, but it does sadly seem to be true.

http://speakeasy.jazzcorner.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?p=579829

Jonathan Abbey (erstwhile), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck. I knew I should have gone to see her play last year.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh God, no.

Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

SUCK

my first thought is just like with Octavia Butler - at least we have one last work to explore that she left with us before she died.

I am going to put on "Journey In Satchidananda" now and maybe even cry a bit.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

what a fucking shame

max (maxreax), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

she played two months ago in san francisco... and I missed it. by all reports, it was good with a few completely transcendent peaks.

this one really comes as a surprise.

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

She was about 70, wasn't she? Pretty young, anyway. Listening to "Eternity" now. Love this rec.

808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

:-(

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 January 2007 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=1288

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 14 January 2007 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I heard this yesterday, but didin't want to post before there was official confirmation. Very sad. RIP.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 14 January 2007 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link

This is nuts. I had no idea. RIP, you beautiful lady.

I had been listening to Lord Of Lords this morning (for the first time) and wasn't feeling her string arrangements. I mentioned how "corny and Cecil B. DeMille" they were to a friend later tonight and that was that. I feel terrible because I love Alice Coltrane's music and this was unexpected.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Sunday, 14 January 2007 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

so sad. i'm going to put universal consciousness on right now. rip.

m@p (plosive), Sunday, 14 January 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, fucking hell.

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 14 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP. Will listen to Alice today!

mcd (mcd), Sunday, 14 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

i am not a nugget (stevie), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

someone more familiar with her stuff than i am should start a proper RIP thread, maybe. RIP Alice.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, w/ this and michael brecker's passing it's been a supersad week for jazzheads

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

man, i just saw her in SF 2 months ago and she seemed happy and healthy.

jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 14 January 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to her heavily the past few months, more than ever.

She lived a beautiful, full life.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucking hell, I was listening to her 70s stuff on Warners just a few days ago (Transfiguration is simply *awesome*). AND I was talking about how the Penguin Guide To Jazz are still a bit snotty about her. AND she was booked to play the Barbican in London on April 1 2007. AND Universal were putting together a big compilation to coincide with that. AND she's still being bigged up by the likes of Thom Yorke, Jonny Greenwood, Keiran Hebden, Adem, Bobby Gillespie... A great shock and a much missed talent. RIP

john lewis (johnnylewis), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Very sad, have been listening to her music all day, much of yesterday as well.

ubbu (Tate), Monday, 15 January 2007 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever mourned the passing of an artist. i've been emotional since i found out.

jaime (jaime), Monday, 15 January 2007 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

AND she's still being bigged up by the likes of Thom Yorke, Jonny Greenwood, Keiran Hebden, Adem, Bobby Gillespie

the punchline writes itself i think...

alice c and michael b in the space of one weekend...not my idea of an impulse clearout... :-(

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I spent a few hours at work on Friday, sat at my desk, listening to to the albums I have on my mp3 player. I rarely listen to music in the office, but it made a slow task on a drab day into something so peaceful; I emerged from my headphones feeling surprisingly well rested.

Back at work today, seeing this thread re-emerge - and being in that 'Universal Consciousness mode' which her music always seems to inspire in me - I was quite expectant to see somebody writing about a near identical experience. Quite a jolt to read such sad news in its place.

AJ (o1000ir), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No way! RIP Alice.

Tom D. (Dada), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP. I'm just starting to "get" Universal Consciousness, and this made me really sad to see. Ironically this will probably lead to me checking out more of her catalog.

strom (strom), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Always sounds a bit daft when someone passes away and people say, "I'm going to [consume substance] and play [celebrated track] really f-ing loud," but, you know, I am actually going to go home and play Galaxy Around Olodumare really f-ing loud. Even if I'm only on the diet Coke.

I thought she'd be around forever. She probably will be.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

rip :(

tony conrad schnitzler (sanskrit), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit, what a downer. RIP.

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Monday, 15 January 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not qualified to say anything here.

But surely, the level of tribute should be raised a little higher than the "holy shit what a bummer"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

40 years of suspicion on the part of the jazz fraternity aren't easily overturned - strange how she appealed directly to the rock crowd while being laughed out of the jazz court altogether (the Yoko/Linda of jazz was the usual label tagged on her by the Downbeat crowd).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i listen to her records more often than john's, easily.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

rip :(

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The Astral Meditations compilation is a good primer, though personally I go for the free jazz/Stravinsky Alice. Any of her albums with Pharaoh and/or Jack De Johnette in the line-up are worth owning.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's amazing that EVEN TODAY on her Web site, she felt it necessary to explain that she did not in fact break up the "classic quartet"! There's an interview clip of John explaining things... Weird. Was she really that controversial? She might not have had the freedom/budget to do some of the work she did in the 70s without the Coltrane name, but the work itself more than stands up on its own. In my opinion of course.

Anyway, listened to Eternity on the way to work today--really amazing stuff. She really was one-of-a-kind, as cliched as that might be. With her recent activity, I was hoping to catch her in concert one of these days...Are there plans afoot to release any of those shows last year? Maybe as a DVD? They sounded like cool concerts...And what's this about a big compilation of her stuff from Universal? Hadn't heard anything about that...

Tyler W (tylerw), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

from the WP-Alice Coltrane; Musician, Spiritual Guru

By Teresa Wiltz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, January 15, 2007; B06


Alice Coltrane, 69, a jazz pianist-harpist-composer who was the widow of saxophonist John Coltrane and retired from the world of secular music to become a spiritual leader and guru in the Vedantic philosophic tradition, has died.

Mrs. Coltrane, who died Jan. 12 at West Hills Hospital in Los Angeles of respiratory failure, was a child prodigy from a working-class Detroit family.

Born Alice McCleod in 1937, she grew up steeped in the rigors of classical music, playing in church choirs, music halls, funerals, weddings, wherever and whenever she could. "Music," she told The Washington Post in October, "was just in my heart, somehow."

In time, her older half brother, Ernie Farrow, a respected bassist, introduced her to bebop. She was immediately entranced. As a teenager, she gigged with saxophonists Cannonball Adderley and Sonny Stitt.

After studying briefly in Paris with pianist Bud Powell, who melded jazz and classical sounds, Mrs. Coltrane moved to New York and joined a group led by jazz vibraphonist Terry Gibbs.

Few outside the jazz world knew her for the highly gifted musician and composer she was: An artist in her own right, she was admired for her rumbling arpeggios, for the deep vibrancy of her tone, for her dynamism as an improviser.

She joined John Coltrane's quintet in 1966, replacing pianist McCoy Tyner, and together they explored the limits of avant-garde jazz, marinating in the mysticism of Eastern music, taking her far from her Baptist upbringing.

Theirs was a brief union but one that brought three children and altered her life's trajectory. (Her eldest child, Michelle Coltrane, was the product of her first marriage, to jazz vocalist Kenny "Pancho" Hagood.)

Alice and John Coltrane met in 1962 at the Birdland in New York and quickly formed a fast partnership, two introverted souls who were fascinated with religion, architecture and languages. The couple wed in 1965 in Mexico and made a quiet life in Dix Hills, N.Y.

Her husband, 11 years her senior, introduced her to Eastern religion, meditation and philosophy and pushed her to take up the harp, at the time a rare addition to the jazz canon.

That instrument, along with her ecclesiastical explorations and experimentation with North African and Indian instrumentation, formed the musical basis of her solo albums in the late 1960s and early 1970s: "Journey in Satchidananda," the staple of many a yoga class; "Ptah the El Daoud"; "World Galaxy"; and "Universal Consciousness."

When John Coltrane died in 1967 of liver cancer at age 40, Mrs. Coltrane took a vow of celibacy and immersed herself further into spiritual life, traveling to India to study with spiritual masters such as her guru, Sri Swami Satchidananda, and the Indian sage Sri Satya Sai Baba.

She continued her jazz career for a while, playing the piano, harp and Wurlitzer organ in studio sessions with Jimmy Garrison and Pharoah Sanders, with Rashied Ali and Archie Shepp, and collaborating with Carlos Santana, Laura Nyro, McCoy Tyner and Jack DeJohnette.

In 1978, she decided to commit herself full time to her religious pursuits, though she never abandoned her work managing John Coltrane's estate. She also started the John Coltrane Foundation, which gives scholarships to young musicians.

She took on the Hindu name Turiyasangitananda and founded the Vedantic Center, paying a reported $1.3 million in 1983 for 50 acres of land nestled in the Santa Monica Mountains, about 40 miles from Los Angeles in Agoura Hills. There, she built the Sai Anantam Ashram, a communal living center where her followers could live and study. (Mrs. Coltrane settled with her family in nearby Woodland Hills.)

She never stopped making music, recording spiritual music with her ashram's choir, melding Sanskrit chants with organs and drums and a distinct gospel fervor.

In 2004 she returned to her jazz roots, releasing her last album, the critically acclaimed "Translinear Light," which included the gospel hymns of her Christian childhood, the Hindu hymns of her Vedantic-based beliefs and John Coltrane's compositions.

At the time of her death, she was working on "Sacred Language of Ascension," an album that incorporates Hebrew devotional chants, Vedic culture, Coltrane jazz and orchestral and congregational church music.

Last year, at the urging of her second-eldest son, Ravi, a saxophonist, she performed in four concerts across the country. She played with her sons, Ravi and Oran, as well as bassist Charlie Haden and members of her ashram's choir.

Survivors include her children, Michelle, Ravi and Oran; and five grandchildren. Her eldest son, John Coltrane Jr., died in a car accident in 1982.

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Here is a piece from Temple University 1966 w Alice on piano,Pharoah,Jimmy Garrison and John.http://www.zshare.net/audio/jctemple01-mp3.html

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Geeta's piece on Journey in the upcoming Marooned compilation is one of the things I'm most looking forward to.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Living with the spirit and legacy of John Coltrane
Darlene Donloe

Living With The Spirit And Legacy Of JOHN COLTRANE

THE white brick ranch-styled house is tucked inconspicuously behind black wrought-iron gates in Woodland Hills, Calif. Inside, Alice Coltrane, an accomplished jazz musician, sits quietly at the piano, glancing at the photograph of her late husband, the legendary saxophonist, John Coltrane.

It's been more than 20 years since Coltrane's death, and yet the memories are vivid and strong as thoughts of him still consume her.

"I can't miss him," she says. "He's here. I feel him here."

John Coltrane, long considered ahead of his time musically, was one of the jazz world's most innovative musicians. He worked with such jazz greats as Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis and Thelonius Monk early in his career. Known as "Trane" to his friends, he went on to form his own band in the 1950s, playing radical harmonic and melodic changes that some music critics called "sheets of sound."

For four years, John and Alice Coltrane lived as husband and wife, creating "avant garde" jazz until Coltrane's untimely death in 1967. He died from liver cancer at the age of 41. Coltrane's influence over Alice, much like the musical idolatry from his fans, is remarkably strong.

Alice Coltrane claims to have spoken to her dead husband. "I see him physically in my room while I'm in a transcendental state," she says.

The first time she saw Coltrane, she says, was about a month after he died. "I was sitting in my bedroom meditating when the door opened and Coltrane walked in. He had an instrument that looked like the soprano sax he used to play," she recalls. "He was playing it. Sometimes he looked better than when he was alive."

She saw her husband on occasion over a 12-year period, Mrs. Coltrane says. It's been nine years now since she last spoke to John, and she believes it's because he's been reincarnated and is living in his next life.

She admits that many people may find her accounts to be unlikely. "I know people don't understand or believe what I'm saying," she says. "All I can say to them is to mediate and find out for themselves."

Alice McLeod Coltrane was born in Detroit in 1937, growing up in a musical family. She became an accomplished pianist, studying under the jazz pianist Bud Powell and later playing with major musicians.

In 1963, she met John coltrane in a jazz club in Europe, and what began as professional adoration soon gave way to romance. The two were married a year later, and Alice joined her husband's band in 1966 replacing pianist McCoy Tyner. Both Coltrane and his wife became deeply religious and began studying the music and religions of the East--especially India.

It seems ironic that the woman, once intensely devoted to her music, has cast it aside for what she calls "the path of devotion and understanding." She stopped touring extensively 12 years ago and cut herself off from most of her friends. "Some of it was due to location and distance," she offers. "With some, I just didn't call or correspond."

Now, Mrs. Coltrane keeps herself busy with the Vedantic Center, a spiritual center she founded 14 years ago in Agoura, Calif. As the center's director, she holds the title of swami. She also produces a spiritual half-hour television program, which is shown in the spring on Los Angeles' Channel 18.

Although she no longer performs regularly, Mrs. Coltrane carries on her late husband's music through the "John Coltrane Festival." The festival, which is funded through Coltrane's estate, highlights the work and talents of young musicians.

The Coltrane children have followed in their parents' musical footsteps. Michelle, 28; Ravi, 23, and Oran, 21, live in the Los Angeles area, spending their time studying and developing music and frequently attending their mother's spiritual services at the center. (The couple's first born son, John Jr., died in 1982).

She doesn't spend too much time in the "music room," which seems more like a shrine to her fallen hero. The room is the exact replica of the music room in the couple's former home in New York. Everything is in place, the grand piano, the Persian rugs, the many African instruments and Coltrane's numerous awards. Ironically, there is not a single saxophone in the room. One of his saxophones is stored in a back room of the house. The others are used by his sons and a nephew.

For Mrs. Coltrane there are many pleasant memories of her late husband, and for those reasons, she never remarried. "I don't know that I'd want to live in the proximity with less a man," she says... "I could never marry again."

There is talk of recording and performing again. Alice hasn't done so in 12 years. But more than anything else, she longs for others to appreciate Coltrane's musical accomplishments as much as she does. "John needed to take music to a new level," she says. "That's why when you listen to John Coltrane, you hear everything. Everything was in his music. That's why it's important for people to never forget the contributions he made."

COPYRIGHT 1989 Johnson Publishing Co.
COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Destination Out has a cool re-post of some AC tracks, including her nutso rendition of "My Favorite Things." Wow!
www.destination-out.com/?cat=11

Tyler W (tylerw), Monday, 15 January 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I respectfully bump this thread?

Tyler's link above is well worth looking at. The obit and article quoted above are a bit prosaic, aren't they?

Links to more writing on Alice Coltrane, or more obituaries, would be welcome, if anyone has any.

I listened to Eternity again last night, not having heard it for ages, and Om Supreme (which is just piano and voices) is wonderful. For someone completely anti-religious, I find stuff like this really powerful and affecting. I even love the sleeve notes, which in any other context I would dismiss as complete crap.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link


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