Broken Social Scene...C/D?

Broken Social Scene? The worst? Really? Like, worser than Ashlee Simpson?

Care to go into any backing up (i.e., why's and/or what-for's behind) that statement? Or is it just fun to be contrarian (which, I might add is sooo ILM circa 1991)?

Better them then the Drake Juice Ho-bags biking around with Vice tucked into their American Apparel waistbands.

in other words, if they were better i would like their music.

they are the "hippest" flavour-of-the-month cats in the city (eg they were in grunge bands when it was grunge band time, house DJ's when it was house dj time, brazilian groove bands when it was brazilian groove time, etc.).

This description equally applies to Platinum Blonde.

exactly!

Maybe it's just BSS are easier to swallow then BDR since they don't sing that terrible hugger of trees song.

right...

you sounds like you pay more attention to "the scene" than you do to the music.

hehe. Good times.

I know nothing about their scene or what they did before this, and frankly that's ok with me. I don't care what clothes they wear. I don't care if they have beards or not. I don't care if they're hobos eating cold spam out of a can. if they play a mean fiddle and it moves me... then I'm happy.

if music doesn't have the ability to transcend scensterism or hipsterism or whatever its called, then you might as well be listening to justin timberlake or american idol or whatever corporate music's pimping

i wholeheartedly agree, and would much rather be listening to justin timberlake.

some people listen to music because they like to "be cool"

and some people listen to music because they like music

maybe someday there will be an "I love to be cool" message board and you can make fun of all the uncool people out there.

that depends on who you listen to. but if you're implying that no one is pimping justin timberlake, then you're delusional

sure lots of great bands are pimped, promoted and/or talked up by elitist hipsters and bloggers, etc... I'm just saying there is not much difference between tv/celebrity worship fandom and elitist hipster fandom. they are both using "cool" as a way of selling something that, in an ideal world, ought to be sold on the merit of its musical quality. whatever quality that appeals to you or your taste, etc. an artist's image is not a musical quality. would david bowie's music be any less enjoyable if his face was covered in green warts?

forget I mentioned justin timberlake. any number of sad celebrity types could be used here. what about gene simmons? courtney love? michael jackson, etc. do you like the music or do you like the image, the hyper-public personae, the mask of exploitation? there's a difference there and that's the point.

I only implied that your motives are suspect with regards to hating a band because of the image you percieve them to have.

Why is that the point? I love both the hyper-public personae AND the music, both together, webbed through each other, constructing and destructing one another; the music you hear revealing or obscuring the singer you thought you knew in different ways; shake the kaleidoscope and it changes. Every band - just like every web post, every politician's speech, every book or every painting - is addressing a PUBLIC, and if that band doesn't give a toss about how they make that address they're abdicating participation in an entire complex part of their art. I don't know if Broken Social Scene do that, and I don't really care, since I've never liked what little music of theirs I've heard, but to claim they do is not exactly a shining recommendation in my book. In any case, every band has a scene, every group has its way of hailing and being received by a public, and that can be - and usually is - a crucial element into whether a particular person gets excited by them or is bored or offput. No one needs to justify that to anyone.