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OH MY GOD.

OH MY GOD.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

(here's where I rag on J0n Br3am. He tries to charge mad fees if people call him for Prince info yet is so repugnant he cannot get work as a stringer for Billboard - and he has asked!)

Yeah, Kevin is just one of those people that can get things going and those people are always evident, even when the person is working in Platters. He's also notable for not succumbing to that evil bloaty big fish, small pond thing that a lot of old scenesters get in Minneapolis.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

Matos, can you get him to send me a CD of the show where the second half started out with "Closer To All Your Dreams" and mixed into a Hypnotist white-label? I think "Jump Around" and a remix of "Cobra Bora" were in that particular set, too.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

Rod Smith is incredibly good about that last point as well.

haha Dan, I think they're all in storage in Mpls! He's mentioned it a lot, it's like he's taunting me or something.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

me, I'm especially partial to the set whose 2nd half began with Sabrina Johnston's TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME HAPPY-HOUSE BOMB "I Wanna Sing" ("I sing for harmony--yeah!/I sing for unity--yeah!" oh god it's just about the best vocal-house record EVER and I've NEVER seen the fucker reissued anywhere, what's up with that), went into something vaguely Latin-ish and just kept going. Used to CANE the tape I made of that show (one of his last--second or third to last, maybe?) and REALLY miss it right now.

sorry for all-caps gush but Dan and Suzy feel me I'm sure.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

OH YES.

There was another set where he went from some evil-sounding gabber track into "People Everyday" by Arrested Development that was FUCKING AMAZING. I actually saw him do that one live at First Avenue and I've never seen a happier crowd EVER.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

(Rod once tried to write a hip-hop/techno opera about the pillages of Heliogabalus. Tell me this does not surprise you)

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

haha Suzy, nothing about Rod could possibly surprise me.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

(do you read his stuff in Seattle Weekly? it's absurdly good. I don't like to play favorites but he does amazingly good work week in and out.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link

(and his City Pages stuff is just as impressive, particularly his Diablo Cody piece, which I pushed him to do!)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

Don't worry about the favouritism, I'll vouch for him. He's a lunatic for waiting this long to write music journalism in the first place. We used to sit in Northern Lights on rainy afternoons drawing browser and rack cartoons. Also when I returned to Mpls. after doing the whole NME thing, waving the demos for Hippopotamomus at him, he was a very excited boy. Best. Pervert. Ever.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

He's a lunatic for waiting this long to write music journalism in the first place.

haha NO KIDDING! I actually pushed him into doing it--he'd written something for Rain Taxi (another reason to love MN--it's a quarterly, free lit zine) and I'd been asked by City Pages for a show blurb I didn't know anything about but knew Rod did, so I sent them to him: "He writes for Rain Taxi." The rest is history. < /bragging>

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

fuck, after KIDDING! it was supposed to say < bragging alert>

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

(suzy can you email me? I just wrote you but it got bounced.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Argh! My mail is fucked in that I can mail you but have an inbox, and no current spamola account. It sucks, and would have been sorted by now except Ed is building a Linux server to host our mail etc. Best thing is to mail it to Ed's address dali at zerointegrity dot co dot uk and I will mail back from mine. Bit roundabout, but will only be like that for a week longer.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

done and done.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

fuck, I forgot all about Kevin Cole. That guy deserves a spot in the MN Music Hall of Fame. Lawdy, did he ever try hard.

If we are going to mention the Foetus and Cheapo, then damn, let's pimp Garage D'or. Folkjourwhateverthefuck wasn't all that great to me, but there was a time there in the late 80s early 90s when it seemed like there was about ten great record stores in that city.

Thanks for reminding me it is the Como Zoo.

As Matos has waxed eloquent before, there is an incredible heritage of great music writers from Minneapolis. It's too bad that the CP is so small--there's not nearly enough room for all the talent.

don atwater weiner, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

Red Dragon cream cheese wontons are the classickest of all classics, you all are gibbering and deranged.

Where is M@tt He1geson anyway?

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

Other things classic--

pulltabs
walleye
a bunch of dive bars along Hennepin that probably aren't even there anymore
softball in the summertime
the way the road runs along the river down to Winona
the bluffs on the Missippi up there by the West Bank and by Ft. Snelling
the way that planes scrape the roof of your car on approach over there by the Airport

biggest dud ever--
waiting in line to get into a show during February

don atwater weiner, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

They don't have pulltabs in other states?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC:
"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig
The Time
Suicide Commandos
Let it Be (record store and/or Replacements album)
The Orpheum
The Walker Art Center
Lake Street as Somali-Hmong-Mexican tricontinental Minneapolis immigrant nexus
Hot rodders and muscle car gearheads and import tweakers rolling down University in St. Paul
The XCel Energy Center, which is (at least from the outside) one of the nicest arenas I've ever seen; it is where I am gonna see Prince
The T-Wolves KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES
River Road (both the Mpls. and St. Paul banks)

DUD:
The Vikings-Packers rivalry seeping into EVERYTHING at every possible opportunity
The new Block E entertainment center/pseudomall (except the movie theater, which has nauseating decor but fantastic seating)
Lileks
The Walker Art Center being closed for remodeling until 2016 or some shit like that
Governor Tim Pawlenty
Almost every single movie filmed here not Fargo or Purple Rain (see: Jingle All the Way, Joe Somebody, That Was Then This Is Now, Feeling Minnesota)

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

Did you hear the Timberwolves Playoff rap song they had on 96.3? It is quite lame.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 April 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, man I'm late for the party...

Um...I've often gone on the record as saying Minnesota: CLASSIC!

Man I'm missing the T-Wolves right now.

(Nate, I am such a Vikings dork it's unbelievable - season ticket holder for 7 years!)

If we are going to mention the Foetus and Cheapo, then damn, let's pimp Garage D'or

I have such fond memories of Garage D'or...I went there alot when I first moved to Minneapolis from the homeland of Blue Earth, MN (home of the Jolly Green Giant)....the guys that worked there (Terry, John, and Grant) were always super nice and helpful to me the yungun aspiring cornee indie fuc. It was a super great show and they has some really great in-stores back when they were on Nicollet by the Black Forest (another Classic, btw)...Alejandro Escovedo did this really long 10 minute Iggy-by-way-of-LedZep-Kasmir version of I Wanna Be Your Dog...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

Poor Vikings. It's like they feel that winning a title would be too much like showing off.

The Vikes are like the Replacements of the NFL...they are super talented and sometimes brilliant, but they can't execute for shit and always sabotage themselves when they're on the verge of real success!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

Wolves up by 11 over Denver!!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

HELL YES

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so much happier now. The thought that this thread was going on without M@tt's participation ate me all up inside.

Oh yeah, Minnesota's CLASSIC it goes without saying. But I'll say it anyway.

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

yeah thanx for the heads up! i would have been sad...

also nu-Mpls classic: The Chatterbox - great Atari 2600 friendly pub in Southside!! (good food as well and sometimes good 80s new wave djs)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

So did any of you ever turn your knob to BOB?

Also, Ned what's up with your wierd obscure knowledge of Minneapolis trivia? Did you live here or something....you were breaking out like Toolmaster of Brainerd and Magnolias references on the Oliver Wang beef thread...you frighten me!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

Never lived there, but as I think I muttered over on that thread, when you become as dyed-in-the-wool an MST3K fan as I you end up picking up on all these references. There's one whole skit where Dr. F and Frank attempt to persuade Mike and the Bots to 'turn your crank to Frank.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

hey chatterbox all right! the curry mayo on fries they do is really good. but i draw the line at j4k3 rud3, who is not so good, sadly.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

The thought that this thread was going on without M@tt's participation ate me all up inside.

Cough

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, suffering self-conscious inferiority complex rite now. Time to down a Lienenkugel's and sob miserably to Slim Dunlap solo records.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

NO! DON'T DO IT!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

haha radioK-CLASSIC, right nate?
-- g--ff

buck up there, good buddy!

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

dud: wallet chains proliferating like it's nobody's business and/or still 1992

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

matos OTM!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

Hahaha! Don't try nothin' funny, youse! I swear, one more step and the tape of Viva & Jerry gets popped in the VCR!

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:37 (twenty years ago) link

nate I kiss you!!!

It's weird...Jerry actually works at a butcher shop near my house...I've been waiting in line and actually seen him do his infamous "thumbs up" move to a co-employee!

god they were cable access gods!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'd never heard of them until I ran across their show on New Year's 2003 flipping channels. I got some of it on tape and I just sat there completely baffled out of my skull watching it. It was a constant 10-minute long "WTF?" Then they showed some country videos and I turned the channel again.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:44 (twenty years ago) link

Ned made me realize what Woody Allen is to NYC, MST3K is to the Twin Cities.

Best thread evah, by the way. Makes me feel good to live here.

CLASSIC:
the international film festival, which just wrapped up
jucy lucys
Pepito's chili con queso to go
finally being able to tic off one of my junior-high "life goals" now that I get to write movie capsules for City Pages
"I'm a bartender and it's fun."

DUD:
the political shift
Block E
Ed Asner on Channel 5 ads
everything about Bell Auditorium except for the movies they play
The I-Beam (Moorhead's gay bar)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:11 (twenty years ago) link

classique: The Rainbow Chinese restaurant on 27th and Nicollet
also classique: Pizza Shack on Lake and 34th, when cops aren't getting shot up in it (haha that happened like 20 years ago and people STILL talk about it like it happened yesterday) (like me for example)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:46 (twenty years ago) link

you one homesick motherfucker aint ya matos? : )

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:55 (twenty years ago) link

until I remember Pawlenty and the horrible state of First Avenue, yes, I am. then I remember those things and am not anymore.+-

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

Pawlenty SUCKS, if only for the conceal-and-carry thing (and that's quite enough suckage, man makes you want Rudy Perpich back or something). One of the signs uptown said we can't believe this is now necessary in Minnesota: NO GUNS IN STORE PLEASE!

The Rainbow is pretty good but my favourite Viet used to be Trieu Chau, where Azia is now. The Lotus (Viet of choice in school) is now unspeakably bad and something about Kinhdo makes me vom, I think it's too many shredded carrots in the spring rolls, so I only eat at the Nicollet Viets anyway. There are a few new Viet/Cambodian/Laotian places I will have to try when I'm back next that looked like they were set up on the ground floor of some of the more housey-shaped retail spaces.

Someone in my immediate family has been a Vikings season-ticket holder since the beginning of the team (my sister holds now, my grandfather had 50 yard-line seats). The first owner, Max Winter, had a daughter in the same year at school as my aunt, so the dance line Max' daughter was in became the Vikings cheerleaders by osmosis. Bleurgh, Parkettes. Feathered hair, lip gloss, dirty looks, struggle to maintain B average for doing nails in class.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:15 (twenty years ago) link

Rainbow's Chinese, not Viet, though, isn't it?

I am SO craving Seb Joe's Oreo ice cream it isn't even funny. (haha I used to make cones for them!)

oh my god. I cannot even fucking believe I forgot the classic to end all classics: LITTLE TIJUANA. oh my god. I love love LOVE that place to DEATH.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:20 (twenty years ago) link

Mmm, dunno, I like Taco Morelos better than LT, but you go to LT for the chips and booze and the lateness, not the food. Oh, wait, maybe nachos.

Rainbow is Taiwanese, actuellement, if that's the place Chris and Matt took me. They have bubble drinks.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

(also I cannot remember a time when Minneapolis Alternamale *did not* wear wallet chains from about '84 onwards)

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:41 (twenty years ago) link

different place, though it's been so long since I went there it may have just changed a lot. and OTM re: booze/lateness/nachos matrix of magnificence that is Little T's. (that and the waitresses. sorry, sometimes I'm That Guy too. though I've never worn a wallet chain in my friggin' life.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

obv. Taco Morelos has better food-qua-food, but Little T has atmosphere galore, plus they let you draw on the tablecloths w/crayons!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link


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