2021 NLDS Los Angeles Dodgers vs San Francisco Giants

it wasn't a great call but it's not like he had runners in scoring position or something

yeah imo much worse was that Kris Bryant AB w/ one on and no one out. he took 5 straight pitches, all well out of the zone, but the ump called two of them strikes anyway, and he struck out on the next pitch

the fix was in

Doesn't really matter that they were unlikely to win, you can't end the series that way

Comparison between 2 morales calls https://streamable.com/q97s2c

Lol

christ.

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since Bee is, I assume, prostrate on his floor for the foreseeable future; i went to start a poll for the NLCS, but had no idea how to set the time to the first pitch?!

that isn’t bad, but the two worst calls coming in the same at-bat is rough

xp you can’t iirc, it’ll be at 8pm EDT (midnight GMT of the selected date) no matter what

the sox 'stros one ends in 7 hours somehow tho!

he's used his weird giants voodoo magic on the poll times!!

Doesn't really matter that they were unlikely to win, you can't end the series that way

Ditto. Don Denkinger's famous blown call didn't end a series--it didn't even end Game 6.

Posnanski has a long post on last night's game:

Wilmer Flores didn’t swing. He didn’t come close to swinging. It was a blown call.

And that was a crummy way to end a brilliant game.

It’s a weird blown call because I think we’d all agree it probably didn’t make a difference. Scherzer still would have had Flores down 1-2 in the count, and Flores had gone one-for-11 in the series, and he’d never gotten a hit in 16 at-bats against Scherzer, and so the inevitable was still inevitable.

Still, there was something about that call that summed up this whole series and maybe even these whole playoffs. The Giants and the Dodgers should not have been playing a five-game series in early October. This whole thing was upside down, These are two of the best teams of the last decade, and they deserved — we deserved — a seven-game World Series to cherish forever.

Alas, it wasn’t meant to be. Instead, the Dodgers go on, and the Giants will always be left wondering what miracles might have occurred had they been given their final strike.

since Bee is, I assume, prostrate on his floor for the foreseeable future; i went to start a poll for the NLCS, but had no idea how to set the time to the first pitch?!

thanks for taking over, yes i'm over baseball for now. anyways, just set it to close on Sunday and it will close at 5 PM Pacific on Saturday Night.

Still thinking about that last call...It's not something a manager can appeal, okay. But I thought the umpires, for anything that happens, have the option of getting together and conferring. Couldn't they ask to look at videotape themselves? Going back to that Denkinger call in 1985, the inning--the 9th--started with the bases empty, the Cardinals up 1-0 in the game and up 3-2 in the series. After Denkinger's missed call, the Royals have a man on first, but the Cardinals are still up 1-0 in the game and 3-2 in the series. And that call is infamous. This one ended the series.

i'm in the "that's baseball" camp i think

it’s just not feasible to go to the video for every borderline strike call. that this one ended a series is unfortunate, but so it goes

and unlike the denkinger play, a check-swing is a judgment call

I understand both of you, but in all honesty, a safe/out play at first seems no more or no less a judgement call to me than a checked swing--or at least in this case, where the bat is so clearly not even close to where you'd call a strike. Anyway, I won't mention it again. I do feel for Giants fans, though; I think they got screwed worse than 2003 Cubs fans or 1996 Orioles fans.

Okay, one last comment. What I think:

Managers obviously should not be allowed to appeal ball/strike calls.
Managers should not be allowed to appeal checked-swing calls.
Umpires should not be allowed to review ball/strike calls.

But: umpires should be allowed to review checked-swing calls, if someone on the crew feels one is needed. 99% of them would still not warrant a review--they would, indeed, fall under the judgement-call umbrella, or the game-situation wouldn't warrant doing so. But this is a rare and extreme case, and I think a review should have been in order.

the ump that made the call had the only angle from which to do so — no other ump on the field would ever question it. if you want the ump in the review room in NYC to be proactive, that’s feasible but also raises a ton of other issues

and just as a human nature thing, i doubt that umpires will be too interested in overruling coworkers who didn’t ask for help