Shall we maybe anticipate David Gordon Green and Danny McBride's HALLOWEEN sequel/reboot?

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the reversal of jamie as killer in 5 is the worst thing about it, though 5 is also kind of like watching the mounting psychic damage of attempting to write and shoot a fifth halloween sequel, so i let it get away with a lot

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

i think the h20 continuity presses on the ambiguity of laurie having “died” in 4, as she basically assumed a completely different life

her only true death is in resurrection and it’s the worst 10 minutes of the entire franchise

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link

let me have this third death plz

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link

I have a weird fascination with horror franchsies, like, good or bad, if your series goes like 7 or 8 movies, I'll have an interest in watching them all.

except Saw. fuck Saw.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link

actually, i stand corrected, as laurie technically dies at the end of the director’s cut of rob zombie’s halloween 2

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link

which i remembered but rob zombie’s halloween movies belong to like an alternate dimension version of this franchise and i have trouble associating them

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

holy fuck, she's like Groundkeeper Willie on that Treehouse of Horrors

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

Cops Do It By the Book

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

always amazed how people in movies can fucking HEAR news reports in a crowded bar.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link

Sometimes they tell everyone to shush and ask the bartender to turn it up, and everyone respectfully quiets down so they can focus on what's happening.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 October 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

I only saw the first Saw but I was extremely shocked by how much I liked it

not enough to watch the sequels, mind you

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, 14 October 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link

first saw is a good movie. i haven’t watched any of the sequels either lol

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

First one has bad acting but a great twist and fresh premise. Sequels veer hard into torture porn and a pointlessly tangled mythology. Well, not pointless. The point is to prolong the franchise.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link

First Saw is good.

Second one is decent but eyerolly

Third one is hilarious

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

Not in a good way, mind

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

I've lost track of the number of stories and reviews that have cited the bodycount and brutality of this installment as a series high, but I find it really hard to believe this one is more "brutal" than the Zombie one(s).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

some reviews make this movie sound like it's "what if Funny Games was a Halloween movie" which um, no thank you

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

It's very brutal but not like.... anything that will shock genre aficionados

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

Reviews on this are generally scathing

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

I just don't get it. I skimmed a couple of reviews and ... sigh. All they have to do is make it scary and not stupid and it will work. Like, the Freddy movies, after the first one or maybe two, they're just FX camp, so the focus is on that. Jason, they're just dumb and mechanical, so the focus is on that. The first Halloween perfected the moody, slow and steady wins the race template, which is what made it an iconic masterpiece. Who needs more bullshit larded on? This one sounds like its predecessor, with a bunch of half-assed psychology and pointlessly convoluted plot gymnastics. But when the fulcrum of your franchise is an unstoppable, unkillable, faceless murder-machine that doesn't even speak, that ultimate blank canvas shouldn't be license to fill every corner with bullshit. Michael Myers is enough! The first Halloween was like Jaws. The sequels have pretty much all been Jaws 4. "Oh shit, the shark has followed me down to the Caribbean from New England because it has a mythical vendetta against me and my family!" Or whatever. That doesn't make the shark scarier, that makes the movie silly.

Like the twist from the last one? That was such a groaner just to get to a point where for sure these clever filmmakers could have found some other way to get. How hard can it be to just make a scary movie about a scary man doing scary things?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

BTW, how many times now has Anthony Michael Hall been brought in as a beefed up bully? "Edward Scissorhands," "Community," "Hysteria - The Def Leppard Story" ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

Fwiw I enjoyed it. It's messy and has a meandering attempt at social commentary that is pathetically on the nose and pointless, and it lasts 15 minutes. Some of the editing is also weird.

But it's also hella scuzzy like Halloween II (1981), which endeared it to me a bit. And lots of cool home invasions and practical gore.

As far as a Halloween sequel goes, I'll take it. It definitely feels like the second in a trilogy though.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Also the "personal vendetta" thing is kind of hacked apart in this one, Last Jedi style

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

Michael is a hologram force projection?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

I forgot this was also on Peacock, which it looks like we have, so I started giving it a shot, and ... I don't know, the early scene with the firemen? That's some ridiculous shit, which indicates this movie could really go either way.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

Some of the editing is also weird.

hated this about the previous one

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

I'm at the next set piece. Michael is definitely more Jason in this.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

josh save it for a long spoiler tagged post when you’re done please and thank you

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

no prob! thank you for stopping me, because otherwise I might have just kept going.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

he is a little more Jason, though he hasn't really done the 'quiet stalking, heavy breathing, strangling' thing since the OG. he 'peek a boos' a little, and gets bored and then just kills u and moves to next house.

(or at least that's what he did in Halloween II before he went to the hospital. fitting they called it Memorial Hospital ("remember when this was a hospital, and there were doctors and stuff?")

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

Spoilers, I guess.

I couldn't do it. I made it to the 40 minute mark. It was all so dull and poorly paced. I fast-forwarded a bit and it looked like it kept shifting from boring to stupid and back again. It was bad enough when he single-handedly took out the entire squad of firefighters. But then when he takes out the entire armed posse? Yeah, this is some lazy bullshit from people that should know better.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

Cureently watching this and finding it awesome. Ok, just got to to the scene that people are presumably complaining about and yes, ugh, but I don't find it too prurient

The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link

it eventually leaves and then back to the butchery

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

the entire armed posse was kind of a bit like Gomer's Pyle, tbf

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

I loved the fireman scene. it was ridiculous trash, plus those firemen were idiots. and Michael actually does like hand to hand combat, blocking punches, it was hilarious

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

in other words this film is much trashier than the previous and I guess that's why I liked it? lean into the grime, I guess.

that won't work for the finale obv.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

this film isn’t dumber than the previous imo

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 15 October 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

i actually really liked this lol go figure

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link

i loved the adorable gay couple who lived in the myers house. i love that the myers house wasn’t abandoned, great choice

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

lol my man

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

oops sorry, that was a Freudian slip, my apologies :(

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

Big John and LIttle John were great

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

<3 u neanderthal

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

<3

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

I liked them, too.

The last movie, I felt like it was potential squandered. This one was just ... pointless boring trash. Just dull, and rubbed me the wrong way for it. What I watched at least lol.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link

And the reason I brought up Jason, there's unstoppable killing machine, and then there's agro creative killer. There's the shark, and then there's an all powerful supernatural malevolent monster. Which, sure, no dumber than most of them, but that doesn't make it better, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link

the movie contends with his supernatural ability to not die btw, via exposition, but i loved it anyway, felt like what i wanted from the previous hallowgreen movie

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link

I love how the town chases around a tiny Sam Kinison looking guy and thinks he's Michael. When he's very clearly not.

Also I love how the street gang fails colossally

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

Xpost motherfucker broke a car window with his *fingertips* in the first one

He clearly didn't get that strength from a fuckin Bally's

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

Lol at doctor forgetting his fake stethoscope... AGAIN

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link


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