I don't like Turkish music, or do I?

I thought I had mentioned Seyfettin Sucu, who I do like to some extent, on this thread. I only have one of his cassettes, bought without any clue as to who he was (aside from a Turkish singer), but there's a lot of music by him on youtube:
Oh, hey, there (in the video) is the cover for the cassette I have, I think: Bulbul Oter.
More. . .
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:33 (eleven years ago)

Incredibly important in the east, alongside Nuri sesigüzel, celal güzelses etc. All the folk pop sensations like Tatlises of the 70s-80s were cribbing tips off them. That region is just as much Kurdish though, so it escapes the critical gaze of most western commentators — it's all very traditional and doesn't have the gazino glamour of istanbul belly dance music. Another thing is sucu's stuff was recorded pretty badly - turkish production only really started to improve in the mid 70s and even then it was restricted to more anadolu pop and turkish classical sensations, not so much folk music. Although that bad quality adds to the charm, of course.

Interesting to see that Stewart Lee's making a deal about picking up Turkish funk in his latest show. THough I wouldn't think that Bunalim were too metal. Great lp that.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 11:24 (three years ago)

No, Binali Selman is closer to metal in terms of sheer noise, although not in terms of electrification and amplification. Very close to moroccan trance music of course. Very hard pounding davul on some of his stuff.

A lot of that Sakir Oner Gunhan album linked to upthread is good, although I still prefer the instrumental aspect over the vocal aspect. (Not that he isn't a strong vocalist--he is! But Turkish vocals tend to put me off a little. Maybe it's even Turkish itself.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 13 February 2010 01:07 (eleven years ago)

lol thats racist m8.

Onur Özer is the bloke I was talking about.
I never did get to go to Istanbul last year. :-(
― Masonic Boom, Friday, 19 February 2010 11:53 (eleven years ago)

There are quite a few. Jammin Unit and Kahn/Gizz TV from the 90s still did it the best. That Murat guy in the states. This new guy Tolga baklavacioglu isn't too shabby either if you like more abstract gear. Lot.te on the Bunker New York. Gantz if you like dubstep with old arabesk samples. Murat Tepeli for house. merve öngen (howl) is a good weirdo/industrial/hardcore dj from istanbul. I heard Pixi in Istanbul is a good club for jungle, dubstep, dnb, that kind of thing but as I don't go to that side of Turkey and don't go clubbing anymore I couldn't say.

Berlin clubbing is still a stupid racist and islamophobic affair though which probably explains why something like the hardcore continuum never developed there, despite germany having a good 3 m Turks in the 90s. Reynolds insight about germans using techno to reconnect to an disavowed patriotism is spot on, I think.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/turkish-pop-star-gulsen-arrested-religious-schools-joke

see upthread for some of Gülşen’s hits