There is nothing at all in the linked report that suggests this was a terror attack, so posting it here, now, with no further info, seems unwarranted.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
In the wake of the attack, Norwegian police have been ordered to temporarily carry firearms as a precaution.
― St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link
oh shit
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
Authorities have not ruled out the possibility of a terror attack. "From the course of events, it is natural to consider whether this is an act of terrorism," Aas said.
― calzino, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
as usual Aimless only reads his own posts
― calzino, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
somebody has to
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
the linked article was updated after I posted, and those quotes after my post were among the updates, fwiw
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link
but hey, it's fun to dunk on people regardless of chronology
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
first clue would be, idk, the fact that the article shows it's most recent version was published 35 minutes ago, when the original was quite obviously posted hours ago. very clearly indicating a recent update, but y'know...."dunks"
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link
so it was "unwarranted" to post this here? I hardly think so.
― calzino, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link
Half the threads on ILE have lately turned into races to see who can dunk on another poster the fastest, so who knows. I thought it was fine to post here, especially with the caveat provided, esp because I can't think of a better, more relevant thread and starting a whole new one might not have been worth it.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link
I hardly think so.
Knowing your expressed opinion of me, whatever I say is not likely to cause you to reconsider. But other people read these threads, so...
Basically all that was said in the article at the time it was posted to this thread was that an assault with a bow and arrow had happened in a public place in Norway and multiple people had been killed or injured. Dan Worsley in his OP said it was "too early to say if it's a terrorist attack", yet he chose to treat it as one by selecting this thread.
I think it is not a good thing when people jump to hasty conclusions about the motives of an assault and label the act as 'terrorism' and the perpetrator a 'terrorist' when nothing in the available reporting leads to that conclusion. It just heightens fear and tension, sometimes for no reason. So, the complete lack of details at the time Dan posted (and I responded) did make his choice of thread unwarranted, in my opinion.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
I have to admit I was scared to to open this thread and then I saw it was about a bow and arrow attack. So I guess that part was nice?
― DJI, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link
"yet he chose to treat it as one by selecting this thread"
I wouldn't be such a supercilious arrogant prick if I didn't have a basic understanding of how threads work on here.
― calzino, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link
Hah! I shall raise my eyebrows at you!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link
Here you go, let's not fall out over this one.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/15/counter-terrorism-police-take-over-inquiry-into-david-amess-killing
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 October 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link
"Basically all that was said in the article at the time it was posted to this thread was that an assault with a bow and arrow had happened in a public place in Norway and multiple people had been killed or injured."
So basically it was totally fine to revive the thread. If it had turned out not to have been a terror attack this would've been corrected eventually.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 October 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link
Oops https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/world/europe/norway-attack.amp.htmlIn Norway Attack, 'Sharp Object,' Not Arrows, Killed 5, Police Say
― Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
interesting headline choice when that part seems like a simple mistake and this part seems a bit more important
The police had previously contacted Mr. Brathen, a 37-year-old Danish citizen and Muslim convert, over concerns that he had been radicalized, and the Norwegian security agency, known as PST, said soon after the attack that it appeared to be an “act of terrorism.”But on Monday, Per Thomas Omholt, the chief of police in the Sor-Ost Police District, said of the motivation for the crime that “the initial hypothesis about conversion to Islam is weakened.”“He has said he converted in public, but he has not lived up to this in practice,” Mr. Omholt said.
But on Monday, Per Thomas Omholt, the chief of police in the Sor-Ost Police District, said of the motivation for the crime that “the initial hypothesis about conversion to Islam is weakened.”
“He has said he converted in public, but he has not lived up to this in practice,” Mr. Omholt said.
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link
murderer: "i'm a terrorist"police: "let's not jump to conclusions. after all, you are very white"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link
https://inews.co.uk/news/liverpool-womens-hospital-explosion-terror-police-lead-probe-blast-kills-one-injures-one-1300303
Bomb outside liverpool women's hospital at 10:59 on Remembrance sunday...
(bomber apparently took taxi to the hospital, the taxi driver noticed and locked him in)
― koogs, Monday, 15 November 2021 11:08 (two years ago) link
The taxi driver has been released from hospital already! The only person killed was the bomber. Still, what a nerve the driver had.
― suggest bainne (gyac), Monday, 15 November 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link
Shades of Smeato.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 11:15 (two years ago) link
Curious, if the taxi driver could not get far enough away before the blast to not escape injury, how would the terrorist have had any time to try to exit the vehicle themselves if they tried?
― Evan, Monday, 15 November 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link
Idk, does it matter? Who cares?
― suggest bainne (gyac), Monday, 15 November 2021 12:14 (two years ago) link
good job the fuckwit used a taxi, not that I'd imagine there would be people queueing up for a suicide mission driving job in aid of blowing up a hospital ffs!
― calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
Theory is the hospital wasn't the target but the driver drove to what I assume was the nearest car park, locked the doors and scarpered.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
ah right, in a scary af high pressure situation like that not much else he could do really
― calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
Re evans q I assumed it wasn’t a timed detonation so much as the guy triggered it when he realised he was stuck in the car, so if he hadn’t been locked in he’d have had time to go wherever and blow himself up there
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
The Torygraph sez..
The bomber, who died when his Improvised Explosive Device (IED) went off, had ordered a taxi to take him to Liverpool Women’s Hospital but well-placed sources stressed his motivation remained unclear as was his intended target.One possible theory is the bomber was intending to walk towards Liverpool’s Anglican Cathedral to detonate the device as the congregation left following a Remembrance Day service.
One possible theory is the bomber was intending to walk towards Liverpool’s Anglican Cathedral to detonate the device as the congregation left following a Remembrance Day service.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
If he hadn't locked the doors that could have been a very horrible situation
― calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
Does this mean taxi drivers are good now?
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
― suggest bainne (gyac), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
Bloody traffic, smh!
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
Who doesn’t factor in traffic?
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link
Lamentable organizational skills.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
How do you lock someone in a taxi? Can't they just get out like in a normal car?
― peace, man, Monday, 15 November 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
Central locking, all have it to stop naughty fair dodgers. and now terrorists
― Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
The story now is he didn't lock the doors and the explosion happened while he was still in the taxi.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link
yeah, if you've seen the cctv footage the explosion happens as soon as the taxi arrives at the hospital.
― Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
mans gonna need a new air freshener for his cab
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 15 November 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link
I thought I heard on the radio this morning that the device didn't explode properly, something about the detonator going off but not the complete load of explosives.
― calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link
I often overlook that in the big cities there are lots of white taxi drivers and of that ranting racist taxi driver stereotype. There are very few white ones where I live, perhaps even none at the moment. The most fascist taxi driver I ever encountered was a sikh with a brummie accent who had R4 on and was complaining that they never talk about Hitler's good policies. He was a real oddball. I bet if it had been an Asian taxi driver who was the hero of the hour, he'd have been handcuffed to the hospital bed!
Yes, I think it was only the detonator went off, hence the fact that the taxi driver is sitting at home just now with his feet up watching Escape To The Country.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
― suggest bainne (gyac), Monday, 15 November 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
here is that thin line between successfully causing terror, death, mayhem and just blowing your bollox off in the back of a taxi!
― calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, November 15, 2021 9:46 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Aha, OK. I was asking earlier because I wasn't understanding the described events.
― Evan, Monday, 15 November 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
Women's hospital? If this happened in the US, I'd figure that it was an antiabortion attack.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 15 November 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
Not the intended target.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
Though you're right that in the US it might have been!
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 15 November 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link