WELCOME TO THE JUNGLIST MASSIVE, WE'VE GOT FUN N GAMES: 2017 Rolling Drum and Bass/Jungle/Liquid/Neurofunk/170

Getting back to 2018:

Tim Reaper , Dwarde & Gand - Globex Corp Vol. 5 B1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMSOR4VJXe8

Wow, that's sick

xp, the Coco Bryce I mean

Here he is with some 'jungle-tech' (not so different at all from old school hardcore tbh). Some jungle-tech is undoubtedly much worse, but with higher bitrates than the old stuff at least.

Tim Reaper - Sequence 2 [2020]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmpPDHIKaFw

xp also

But yes, sick...in the head. Now it's got me wondering what kind of gear they're using? I'll have to try to find an interview after I root through this one and the club thread you just bumped, and which I was also shocked, yes shocked to discover.

*I do have to note that I would like to lodge an objection to the thread title here.

The Jonny Reebok is real nice too brimstead. At first I was like 'eh' and then I was like 'yeah'!

heck yeah I love Tim reaper!

just discovered this dust-e-1 track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GxRN53k5-E

the Johnny Reebok is cool because it has all this vague 2step AND breaky electro energy going on, but it’s elegant and smooth af, it sounds really fresh to me idk

Right? It's almost a weightless feel, quite sparse.

But the late great was on to Coco Bryce back in 2017, right around the time I was thinking that all new music was sounding very much the same as what was popular ten years before, and I should mostly just listen to lots of old disco and reggae etc.

coco bryce brings sick amen revivalism

https://soundcloud.com/cocobrycebeats/coco-bryce-raid-7th-storey-projects-12014

― the late great, Saturday, April 15, 2017 4:46 PM (four years ago)

So yes I do in fact prefer revival of thirty year old music styles to ten year old music styles. There's still a lot of unexplored potential in jungle tho (compared to house at least).

There was a 2020 rolling thread too, I've fallen out of the dnb habit the past 12 months or so so I never made a 2021 thread.

I was thinking maybe we could do separate threads for the neo-techstep purists vs the rest of us? I don’t really see that there’s so much great material being released that new thread is needed every year tbh.

Anyway idk what this even is. Pretty sure it’s >160 tho.

Joy Orbison - red velve7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNDJPMT7g2A

(Sorry if it seems like I’m locked into a pattern of lazy drive-by posting lately. Busy busy.)

This is the mood today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9uyCaeiqRU

Omni Trio - The Half Cut

Basically an edit of their remix of Music Is The Key by Foul Play. Sadly absent of the little filtered drum fills that almost define that remix.

Idk if the visuals are from BBC Planet Earth 1 or 2 but not totally inappropriate. I also wouldn’t say no to a half hour megamix of the different versions of this song.

Wish I could offer a list of top releases of 2021 but it feels like I’ve been playing catch-up all year. There has been some great jungle on some of the year end lists I’ve seen, for straight d&b the only standout for me has been that one dBridge roller, which I can’t currently remember the name of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3O2u_PjZkY
Paradox - Soviet
One of the best "straight d&b" tunes of the year, if you can call it that? Scorching bassline from 2:12.

Oh and this one. Unlike anything else much - it's in 12/8 until the beat drops, and has more chord changes than typical d'n'b in the 2nd half...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8CB-kwwwOw

Grey Code - Opal

The Paradox is certainly what I’d call straight d&b, I think the style is drumstep? It’s fine, I’m sure it could fill a big room.

If you take issue with the connotations of “straight” we could call it trad drum & bass but that seems more ambiguous. It’s clear to me that jungle and d&b are diverging so it’s helpful to have some terminology to distinguish the two.

For whatever reason the drum & bass ‘scene’ is among the more toxic communities in electronic music. I’m not saying everyone involved is soiled by association but there’s something about this music that seems to attract douchebags.

There’s not a lot I find compelling about it anymore, knowing it’s a genre that has this somewhat regressive fanbase, and it’s not like there’s been a whole lot of innovation there in the past oh fifteen years. (I could mostly say the same the same of techno at this point tbh.)

Opal is a lot more compelling. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a composition in 12/8 haha. Good to see Metalheadz isn’t just phoning it in these days like a lot of the other classic labels.

Yo viborg, yeah I getcha and I'm not really that connected with "straight" d'n'b either - although over in Aus I don't perhaps get the same douchebaggery (but then I'm too old to go clubbing much either).
Definitely also enjoying the junglist stuff more these days, but I like to dip my toe in to see what's happening in (what I think of as) the more mainstream stuff I guess.

> (I could mostly say the same the same of techno at this point tbh.)
For sure.

Another great tune from Sully '5ives', not what I'd call straight d'n'b:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5eBw_HlzMM

I follow ‘straight’ drum & bass pretty closely and can highly recommend having a listen to what Imanu and Buunshin have been up to this year if you want to hear the current cutting edge.

Buunshin afaik is still studying sonology at the Royal Conservertoire in The Hague and has access to some pretty mental sound design kit as a result, and the two of them are young proteges of Noisia.

Probably not your cup of tea if you just want ‘authentic’ breaks chopped in an S1000, a tired pad sample and a sine wave sub though.

Re: the blanket statement of ‘attracting douchebags’ - the MC led nights where there are 3 DJs on the bill and 50 MC’s are far, far worse for this.

Symmetry / Headz / 1985 nights in somewhere like Trinity in Bristol are on the whole a pretty good crowd in comparison.

Lol no one said anything about 'authentic' breaks, and I don't think anyone of note is using an S1000 any more. If you're concerned with the standard shape of basslines in electronic music, why not just listen to Floating Points, maybe some actual jazz, or whatever the current version of IDM is? Although trad IDM leaned pretty heavily on sine waves too iirc.

The fact is that there aren't a lot of producers making jungle now and they are mainly hewing to that classic sound so there isn't a lot of experimentation going on that I've heard. More experimentation in some of the jungle/garage crossover productions but that's also solely melange as experimentation.

MikoMcha that's a solid release from Sully. I like the b-side a little better.

I guess this would qualify as "tired pad samples"?

Tim Reaper - Lights Off, Heads Down (Sully Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2NVF1ZutiU

Ok one last post: this thread seems acceptable as the rolling jungle etc thread going forward, shall I petition the powers that be to change the title to "2017 AND BEYOND"? Any suggested revisions or alternatives? Is neurofunk a separate genre from drum & bass at all? I thought it was just one of many styles that emerged 1996-2002.

Yep that kind of pad sound was pretty much what I had in mind when I referred to ‘tired pad samples’.

Tim Reaper / Sully / Fracture are awesome and imo bring something new using the classic hardcore continuum collection of samples.

Some of the other ‘new’ jungle I have come across on Bandcamp is quite depressing in its half-assed throwing together of already caned into the ground samples / breaks / tropes. Kind of retromania at its worst and spectacularly lazy.

Agreed, I should have clarified that I meant there aren't a lot of producers making GOOD jungle right now. Haven't heard much from Fracture at ~160 bpm tho? I do like almost everything I've heard from him.

His 'Velocity EP' on 1985 is worth a listen along with virtually everything he puts out on his Astrophonica label.

Been thinking about starting a new rolling hardcore continuum thread. But for now what’s foremost in my mind and relevant is that in the past week I’ve seen two out of my all-time top 20 d&b producers posting dumb reactionary hot takes. Ffs.

I have to assume that one is Photek, but I can't see anything he's said publicly since last year...

i am strongly pro a hardcore continuum thread

No it was Dom (of & Roland fame) straight up stanning for Jordan Peterson, granted rating him in the 20 is being pretty generous. But also dBridge but that was a bit more vague, just seemingly taking a stand for the Canadian clown caravan. Photek too? Ugh.

Dog Latin I hear ya and value your thoughts friend but tbh Blu Mar Ten just posted this

I used to do a monthly podcast but stopped @ ep 30. I carried on privately making a playlist of music to be included if I ever started it again but I don't think I will, so here's that playlist for your enjoyment. Regularly updated, so shuffle & enjoy it.https://t.co/yubu0Myacj

— Blu Mar Ten (@BluMarTen) February 15, 2022

I just want bangers tho. Here are some of mine, kind of in order of early doors through tear-out: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4IKIunrynAHYh1qt0SemKW?si=279cfd568a664070

I don’t even know what a banger is anymore. Thanks for the list tho.

Dom (of & Roland fame) straight up stanning for Jordan Peterson

Yeah if you check his Twatter (don't) you'll see Photek also stanning JP. Probably not the most embarrassing thing on there tbh.
Ugh...

That's a shame about Photek. Never cared that much for Dom and Roland though.

Thanks for that Blu Mar Ten link above.

I'm liking a lot of the retro stuff that's about - Tim Reaper and Co, Rupture Records, even stuff on Omni who are hit and miss but seem to release 4 or 5 EPs every month. Even enjoying some of the Tik-toky pop jungle from Nia Archives and Pink Panthress.

If you want straight face melting bangers, Grid Recordings still putting out some fun stuff which I guess would be classed as jump up but done in a non-obvious anti-anthemic kind of way. Check out Yatuza, Muzo, Nick the Lot for example

Also good recently: Sl8r - Temptation, Need for Mirrors - Dozy, Blocks and Escher - This One (On R&S). Also liking Myth, Fluidity, Fanu and the always reliable Break.

I go to Junodownload new releases every Monday and it's 95% shite but dnb still produces a few gems so I can't let it go as a genre

Cheers to you!

From here this actually looks like a good jumping off point for a new thread…feeling a little sleep deprived, thanks neighbors. But this is what I’ve got — I feel like I’m forgetting something:

Rolling thread of the HARDCORE CONTINUUM from 2022 into the future (jungle, drum and bass, uk garage, dubstep, bass music, funky, halfstep &c)

Any suggested fixes?

Just call it Rolling Ravey Bangers

Or just add "breaks" to it. I'm really into throbby bassy breaks with a bit of a garage flex atm

Beat you to it ROLLING RAVEY BANGERS / HARDCORE 'NUUM

Aha ok. Don’t you think it’s kind of helpful to have a somewhat more descriptive title? Is the goal just to keep all discussion here safe from the prying eyes of any outsiders or maybe even newcomers?

Anyway Don I was gonna say ‘Dozy’ is tremendous! I was under the impression Need for Mirrors was just another stadium d&b act. I should pay more attention to R&S records also…I checked out Omni Music, like you said it’s a low signal to noise ratio there. The same could be said of Juno sadly, I know there is plenty of quality there if you dig for it. Too bad cause they used to have that top notch blog thing going on.

it's 95% shite

What you said. Rupture is great, all the usual suspects there…going back to 2013 tho! I’ve been so deluded for so long ;_;

Last post: if any of you are on Twitter I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter. I’m @danielviborg but mostly just shitposts tbh.

Aha ok. Don’t you think it’s kind of helpful to have a somewhat more descriptive title? Is the goal just to keep all discussion here safe from the prying eyes of any outsiders or maybe even newcomers?

― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, February 18, 2022 1:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's traditional round here to be as cryptic as possible