Did you talk about his work with Harold Budd? Would love to hear his memories of working with him.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 11 October 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link
congrats ned, that's great
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 11 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
Thanks all -- yes the focus was on his strictly solo stuff with one exception, namely the Budd work. It'll be a total of five or six albums out of the whole -- think of this piece of mine as a model for the format:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/a-guide-to-alessandro-cortinis-exploratory-electronic-music
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
I had a cocktail named "Cherry-Coloured Funk" the other day, it was fine. I'm sure it's not the first time a drink was named after that song
― Murgatroid, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/RuA760P7F9— Gabe (@gabrielszatan) February 9, 2022
― snarl self own (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link
It must be true
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:51 (two years ago) link
I recently got a copy of Blue Bell Knoll on vinyl. It sounds spectacular.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link
deciphering the lyrics to Blue Bell Knoll will lead you to a bejeweled statuette hidden in an English country field
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link
"DRINK YOUR OVALTINE"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
BE SURE TO DRINKYOUR ATHOLL BROSE
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 February 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link
So she really was saying "sip cherry coke" hih
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 February 2022 18:15 (two years ago) link
I wish I'd saved the images when they were posted up on FB some years back but someone posted a letter they got from Lizzie way back in the day where I guess the band were still small enough to write back to some fans. And she wrote down all the lyrics to the Lullabies EP for this guy, when they'd just written it. It is I think a fascinating insight into how she wrangles words and scansion:
Alas Dies LaughingFlaxen the tresses / BothFlesh and fleshings / Tongue-Tied and stuttering / WasQuick take to mummeringFlaxen the tresses AllFingers and stresses / Tongue-tied and stuttering / WasQuick take to mummering
like when you listen to this, I think what she ends up singing is slightly diff (she says "quick take to mummering fun" or tounge or similar). But yeah thats it.
Feathers Oar BladesBare in foot and hideBarefaced bareheadedBare in foot and hideBare in foot and hideCrestfallen, weepingThe cripples though crestlessAre crestfallen weepingFeathers oar bladesSplitting hair feathersSpitting out oar bladesSpitting out oar bladesCrestfallen, weepingThe cripples though crestlessAre crestfallen weepingAll in teetotumWiddershins every’s bodyIs all in teetotumIs all in teetotumSpitting out oar blades
She swaps the first 2 lines around on the record, maybe theyd done a few versions after she worked out the words.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 March 2023 05:20 (one year ago) link
Actually correction: she sings it this way on the Lullbies EP. She swaps the first 2 lines around on the Peel Session version.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 March 2023 05:22 (one year ago) link
But what a great play on words "Splitting hair feathers" is.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 March 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/kqrzyJh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Mh2r6jS.jpgholy shit - no idea these existed
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 30 March 2023 06:22 (one year ago) link
oh wow i couldn’t find the scans!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 March 2023 08:56 (one year ago) link
so cool
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 30 March 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
Thanks for this
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 March 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link
I've been a bit wary of knowing the exact lyrics apart from the fragments perceptible on the record covers, in the outside case they'd just turn out to be horrendous bullshit, but seeing that, I so want that complete-works volume that I cannot imagine we'll ever have.
barefaced bareheadedbare in foot and hide
I mean
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
A lot of the time Lullabies is my favourite of all their stuff, so forbidding and mysterious, and as you say, knowing the lyric doesn't change that a bit.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link
Need to get back to that; I love Garlands and all, but the EP stuff has fallen a bit between the cracks.
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link
the EPs are so great, endlessly rewarding timeless music
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
Lullabies def my favourite of all of their work, I think. That and the Echoes/Dynamine eps. Which I see were discussed at length upthread when Z had a Cocteaus-venture I missed! (I never read ILM much).
Was funny to learn it went "kicked all from my all from my all from my curtsies my curtsies my curtsies my" when I thtought she was singing "get offa my offa my case my case my" lol.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
all for my all for my all for my kiss my kiss my kiss myyyy as I recall
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
Yeah ha I think at one point I also thought that was it. I mean who would hear "curtsies", she really smears the word.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link
Cocteau Twins are seen as progenitors to shoegaze in their guitar sound, but I guess you could say the same about their lyrical approach. I have always appreciated Slowdive and MBV because most pop lyrics are daft, and by submerging the vocals in the mix, those bands avoided that disappointment. Liz Fraser’s avant-garde lyric writing, which was then distorted behind recognition in her singing, was the same goodness.
― Melomane, Friday, 31 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
Encountered "Pearly Dewdrops'-Drops" today, as part of a mix... what a terrific song (oddly titled though it is). I tried out some bits & pieces of their other early stuff, and wasn't feeling it as much... I'll have to keep trying, kept coming back to that one song.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 00:17 (eleven months ago) link
try sampling the EPs as opposed to album tracks
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 01:28 (eleven months ago) link
If you like “Pearly…” specifically, then I’d recommend ‘The Pink Opaque’ which is a US compilation of key tracks from that era.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 02:25 (eleven months ago) link
Thanks to both, those were good tips for finding a groove (this track "Millimillenary," dang...)
Wish I had been hip to this band in high school; they would have fit so tightly in my taste profile at the time.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 02:35 (eleven months ago) link
(this track "Millimillenary," dang...)
so great and only available via the Pink Opaque comp, not released anywhere else which is a travesty obv
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 03:20 (eleven months ago) link
“Wax and Wane” remix is decent too, in that 80s 4AD dance mix vein
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 03:26 (eleven months ago) link
It also contains my favorite Cocteau’s track - “Aikea-Guinea”
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 03:49 (eleven months ago) link
"Aikea-Guinea" is my favorite CT track too :)
I think you would probably enjoy the album Head Over Heels, which is close in sound to "Pearly..", especially the song "Sugar Hiccup".
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link
Thanks, will queue that up next (I'm almost thru The Pink Opaque this morning; "Aikea-Guinea" happens to be playing right now... great collection)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:55 (eleven months ago) link
This group sure had a way with song titles! haha
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:56 (eleven months ago) link
That's all Liz Fraser. Wait till you see the ones on Blue Bell Knoll !
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:07 (eleven months ago) link
"Sugar Hiccup" was a good call!
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:23 (eleven months ago) link
I feel like the Sugarcubes def. took some inspiration here (tho I imagine this is a bog-standard observation)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link
I remember an early Sugarcubes interview where Björk said she often got compared to Kate Bush, Siouxsie Sioux and Liz Fraser.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 17:49 (eleven months ago) link
And just that slow-tempo groove, echoing drums, and chiming gtr of some of these tracks (although I guess that would describe a lot of '80s acts!)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:13 (eleven months ago) link
morrisp, you gotta check out the Love's Easy Tears EP. Their single best release for me, has kind of a 60s-pop-beamed-through-interstellar-space vibe
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link
Thanks – just listened, and liked it a lot (perfect description, too!)
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link
I found this in a cutout bin of unsold Record Store Day stuff - Sun's Signature (Frasier and Damon Reece)
HOLY SHIT THIS IS GREAT why didn't anyone freak out about this
feels like a mix of Cocteau's and Portishead Third
https://sunssignature.bandcamp.com/album/suns-signature
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:21 (nine months ago) link
waht
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:40 (nine months ago) link
I thought this already made the rounds! Yeah it's fine stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:41 (nine months ago) link
I must have missed it, just saw the cover in the bins and googled it, was only $8 so I figured why not, super blown away by how great this is, beautiful tracks, feels a piece with CT but has its own identity
her voice has held up remarkably!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link
plus Steve Hackett!!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 17:00 (nine months ago) link
Woah. Thanks for info. Had no idea.
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 20:55 (nine months ago) link
Happy 60th to Liz!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:59 (seven months ago) link