Best Daniel Craig era Bond flick

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*having to follow CR, not CS.

kermit the grouch (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 10 October 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

QoS is great, its brevity and having to follow CR were its only issues

The brevity I don't entirely mind, but I'll say that having done the series rewatch, viewing that very soon after CR made it feel like much more of a piece. Calling it a diptych might be pretentious but the fact that one follows on immediately after the other, it develops the sense of mysterious paranoia (untrustworthy moles from the get-go), and ends the immediate arc of the Vesper Lynn repercussions is really well done. And while everyone celebrates the opera scene one of the best moments maybe of the whole damn series is one of the subtlest and quietest: that 'thank you' the Canadian agent says when she leaves the room during the final confrontation.

One thing I'm perversely impressed by is how, clearly without any real plan, the whole five-film Craig arc ended up succeeding in a kind of perfect mirror image -- two closely interrelated films each on either side of a standalone story, essentially -- and where every other film was a clear high point whatever individual flaws, and I'll take 3 out of 5 though as noted with QoS I'd say more a 3.5 if not more. And then said whole film-film arc...worked? Again, without any real plan or promise of one and certainly not in the sense of wall to wall success on all fronts! It's like just enough accidents of timing and input happened in the course of an enterprise with its own overriding logic -- there have been Bond films, there will be more Bond films, nothing else is more paramount than continuing entertainment and commercial success -- that within said commercial constraints and gambles they did something that hadn't ever happened in the series before, an actual multifilm story where the tangled plots mattered a little less than the themes and characters in the end -- and to pick up on that point again, every film essentially is about a compromised organization on the side of 'good' that's riddled with double-agents, untrustworthy allies, deep moles, where the 'good guys' are watching their back more often than not. Dench and Fiennes's Ms are left to give the heroic speeches or comments about queen and country and whatever, Craig's Bond is there to do the job, ever increasingly for his own reasons -- and that's what makes him more Fleming's original Bond in the end than all the others, even Dalton's.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 October 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

Ppl who rep for Casino Royale

Do ye mean the whole whole movie or yknow the part of it until the car crash because if the latter i can see it but everything after that point just killed the movie dead for me tbh

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 October 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

Liked Casino Royale when I saw it in theatres, but wasn't as impressed when I caught it again on TV a while back. I still expect it to win here.

I remember Skyfall having some fairly elegant action sequences, so I'll go with that.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

re: armas in 'no time to die'

her part was really fun and i spent the rest of the movie hoping she would show up again. nope!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

The most memorable thing about Quantum of Solace is this bit from Ebert's review:

In "Quantum of Solace" he will share no cozy quality time with the Bond girl (Olga Kurylenko). We fondly remember the immortal names of Pussy Galore, Xenia Onatopp and Plenty O'Toole, who I have always suspected was a drag queen. In this film, who do we get? Are you ready for this? Camille. That's it. Camille. Not even Camille Squeal. Or Cammy Miami. Or Miss O'Toole's friend Cam Shaft.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

Though I won't watch this latest film
quite enjoyed Osita Nwanevu going over Craig's time with the franchise. It was good to see a hardened political writer putting in a shift, as a break from the day job.

https://www.gawker.com/culture/hes-really-had-a-substantial-amount-of-time-to-die

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

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System, Sunday, 27 February 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link

Just watched _No Time to Die_ yesterday. Being the summation of the Craig bond, and thinking Skyfall was a slog and Spectre slightly less so, very much enjoyed this one. <h>The conclusion, with Bond's sacrifice, unwilling to chance the Six Degrees eventuality that Madeleine and his daughter would die the nanobot death, I thought was well-earned over the course of the five films.</h>

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Sunday, 27 February 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link

argh. SPOILERS. sorry.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Sunday, 27 February 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link

Casino Royale, very easily.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 27 February 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

The first one, yes, the second one, kinda, the third one for the first half, the last two: hopeless.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 27 February 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

Spectre remains my least favorite of these. The first 15-20 minutes were dope but then it becomes a joyless slog, two hours of fidgeting in your theatre seat waiting for the thing to end.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 27 February 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link

Super inert. Looks like a Guinness ad

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 27 February 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

Exactly how I feel, Chuck_Tatum

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 27 February 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 28 February 2022 00:01 (two years ago) link


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