Bond #25: NO TIME TO DIE

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taking my folks today. my dad's a huge Bond fan, first time we'll have seen a movie together since after he was hospitalized.

just gonna make sure he uses the bathroom before we go!

also good because by 1 am I was starting to doze last night. can't do the laties anymore.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

Sooooo good

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 October 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

Seeing it tomorrow. How bad are we gonna regret doing it in 3D with moving seats?

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

during the opening scene u might puke

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link

Ideal timing then with all the spacing they're doing now!

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

Could/should I take an 11 year old to see this?

calstars, Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

hmm.

only one "fuck".

violence mostly not grisly or graphic, but there are young ppl in danger. lotsa car chases. one scene of Blofeld with no eye patch

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

There are approximately 90 minutes of footage of the hero firing machine guns into human beings

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 10 October 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

that describes just about every Bond film made in the last 30 years

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link

the Ana De Armas cameo might have been my favorite bit about this. going from nervous and socially awkward upon meeting Bond and transitioning into smooth, assured, confident and in-charge as the mission begins and then shit starts hitting the fan.....she makes the best use of her short screen time.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link

THIS WAS GREAT

i enjoyed myself immsenely & look forward to many rewatches in the future

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 October 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

HOWEVER: good lord I don’t ever need to see Lea Seydoux’s snotty nose on a giant movie screen ever again

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

Lol my friend said EWW SHE GOTS A BOOGER

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

Charmingly realistic I thought.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

I'm sure I'd be blowing nose bubbles all over the place. The problem I kept having was the preternaturally calm child.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

as soon as Billy Magnussen showed up I knew he was gonna be a double agent because he always plays sons of bitches

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

just about EVERYTHING in Italy was gorgeous

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

was the missile silo a real location or a build?
it looked amazing

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 October 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

that describes just about every Bond film made in the last 30 years

i) not iirc
ii) I would not show an eleven-year-old Goldeneye, but I didn't ask

(also I saw the last movie and didn't remember all the continuity stuff; someone who was five years old at the time might be even more bemused)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 11 October 2021 06:44 (two years ago) link

196 people died in You Only Live Twice. suffice it to say people dying is a staple of Bond films.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

they had a lot of guts

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link

as a kid, dad had on For Your Eyes Only once and the murder of the Havelocks did upset me a bit.

mostly cos the dad never got to read his book

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

i was def too young to watch licence to kill when i watched licence to kill, the opening is so grim

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

plus a head explodes in that movie. rated r

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

and sharks!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

License to Kill was unusually over the top violent, probably inspired by other movies of that ilk that were growing popular in the 80s.

I only saw it 5 or 6 years ago and, daaaaamn. definitely wouldn't have been ok with that as a kid.

Living Daylights not so bad.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

of the many bond movies that no time to die echoed i really enjoyed the parts that reminded me of licence to kill. felix :(

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

The Living Daylights is a top ten Bond for me, despite Dalton giving the impression that martinis suck and he'd rather be in Twelfth Night.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

for me too, prob my favorite cold open of any of them. also best suite of bond themes

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Yeah it was the first one I saw in a theater -- up to that point it was cable or network TV -- and that combined with Dalton's approach means it'll remain a sentimental favorite, though as with all the John Glen-directed films his approach can best be called 'sturdy.'

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

Alfred weren't you the one in another Bond thread that said Dalton always played Bond like he was in a production of Othello?

(it was apt, I think I've stolen that IRL)

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWrecLbn4KE

such a banger

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

Billy Magnussen‘s character being referred to as “the book of mormon” was a good quick laugh

mh, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

haha yeah.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

why do I have the suspicion that there was an internal debate on whether Blofeld would say “Hello, Clarice” when he’s moved in to have his face-to-face with Bond

mh, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

Alfred weren't you the one in another Bond thread that said Dalton always played Bond like he was in a production of Othello?

haha probably!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

I did like how they played with Bond's long-standing paranoia, particularly after Vesper. One might think his ditching of Madeline was abrupt, but the way they framed it seemed like it might be convincing. He gets bombed after she brings him to Italy, after he visits Vesper's grave, she mentions having secrets and tells him in the car she has something to tell him (which is probably that she's pregnant). but I think the big one is the bags being downstairs. He thinks she was trying to get the fuck out of town after selling out her husband, when in reality, he'd told her 'when I get back, tell us where we're going next', so she had probably just made those plans and was going to tell Bond where they were going when he got back.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

creepy as shit all the machinegunned henchmen were basically silhouettes

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

the motion chair was a pretty good time btw

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

there were not nearly enough henchmen to kill in most of the recent Bond films imo

lots of time for them to die in this one

mh, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

re-posting since i accidentally posted it on spectre thread

fukunaga did an amazing job, whole thing looked amazing and was super varied in terms of color lighting

rami malek was terrible. not remotely scary, idiotic accent, everything he said was so groanworthy pretentious and vacuous (even by Bond villain standards), also for some reason his skin condition improved throughout the movie? by the end it just looked like mild acne scars

léa seydoux is insanely beautiful and every moment she was on screen i was jaw agog. however daniel craig and ana de armas have the best chemistry, wish she was in it more. havana scene was so fun

plot was so dumb. when ralph fiennes is like “we didn’t mean for this bio chemical weapon capable of exterminating entire races of people to become a WMD” lol

overall i loved it. i think italy was my favourite action setpiece (i was hooting and hollering in the movie theatre when he started motorcycling up stairs and flying over bridges) but they were all very entertaining

flopson, Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

malek was less bad than i expected, maybe bc i was warned there was a possibly ineffective bond villain in this one

same thing happened with me and the world is not enough, which, i’m pretty sure i’m the only person who loves that movie

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

There was a lot of shooting up henchmen in a sort of … soulless, generic way - an empty way. And yes, these movies have probably always trafficked in that but this time it really leaped out at me

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

(I must be getting old.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

I appreciated a bunch of little Craig arc acts of symmetry they seeded in here. Poetic.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link

Agreed with everyone who said, above, that this movie was gorgeous, oh my gosh

The transition from the song/title sequence into the movie proper was just jaw dropping

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link

The SPECTRE invasion of the lab ....I want a canvas print of that

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 October 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

re-posting since i accidentally posted it on spectre thread

fukunaga did an amazing job, whole thing looked amazing and was super varied in terms of color lighting

rami malek was terrible. not remotely scary, idiotic accent, everything he said was so groanworthy pretentious and vacuous (even by Bond villain standards), also for some reason his skin condition improved throughout the movie? by the end it just looked like mild acne scars

léa seydoux is insanely beautiful and every moment she was on screen i was jaw agog. however daniel craig and ana de armas have the best chemistry, wish she was in it more. havana scene was so fun

plot was so dumb. when ralph fiennes is like “we didn’t mean for this bio chemical weapon capable of exterminating entire races of people to become a WMD” lol

overall i loved it. i think italy was my favourite action setpiece (i was hooting and hollering in the movie theatre when he started motorcycling up stairs and flying over bridges) but they were all very entertaining


Not discussing Seydoux’s « beauty » (it’s a matter of taste and I simply don’t get it) but she’s a BAD actress ! The scenes with her were a torture (yeah I suffered A LOT during this movie) but the part with De Armas was so fun and exciting that it balanced it. Agreed Craig and her have great chemistry.

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 17 October 2021 07:39 (two years ago) link

the close-quarters stairwell shootouts in the closing battle were fantastic even if they didn't feel very bond-like. overall bond seemed 'an old wreck' in this, grunting, sweating, looking winded by feats he might have once pulled off with insouciance.

craig is great, landscape photography great, but in general i didn't think this was very good. big doings are just barely acknowledged. 007 is a black woman? bond is fighting AGAINST her? the bioweapon was actually developed by MI6? bond finally gets the baddie? (several times?) any of these things could have been the organising principle for great moments of high leverage and difficult choices but they just.... happen.

the only exception to this is bond's sudden suspicion that the love of his life has betrayed him. this is based on a henchman telling him that swann's dad was in spectre. that's it. oh and somebody from spectre calls her phone. but that's enough. it sends him into a pout so deep he'd rather die in a bullet-riddled DB7 than live with the suspicions that this *checks notes* evil henchman has planted in his head. but at least it's something. at least there's some moment and gravity to it. at least he makes a choice based on his character that has consequences in the film. and really it is the sort of emotionally stunted response you'd expect from bond so it kind of works.

lashana lynch's character was deeply disappointing imo. lynch was great but she's given practically nothing to do except be jealous of bond's potency. in norway i was sure she'd show up in the woods to save bond's ass but, no? she's just tooling around? a minicab driver, essentially? poor.

everything everybody's said about malek, and his character, otm. his world domination plans are incoherent, the 'poison garden' incoherent, wtf are these workers doing in these acid baths, he's terrible, boring. the little girl is his leverage and he just lets her go? can't we at least give the little girl a neat scene where she gets the better of him, uses her smarts? the orientalization of the baddies really racist. malek's own ethnicity, the scars, but also the relentless easternizing of him, sitting cross-legged at a low table, etc - blow it into the sun

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 October 2021 11:02 (two years ago) link


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