David Goyer adapting Asimov's Foundation books for Apple+ (Previously: Jonathan Nolan adapting Asimov's Foundation books for HBO)

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Today's episode was pretty great -- love the way they're ratcheting things up. (Also are we getting a full Aliens tribute with that last shot there?)

Word went around they've renewed for a second season.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

I love the way brother day is such a consistently repeating arrogant arsehole to the point that even when he matures into brother dusk he's still going to blame his older predecessor (himself) for everything that goes wrong! And then every time he's got old enough to learn an iota of humility and wisdom they atomise the fucker into dust.

calzino, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

I do like how they're slowly setting up how 'the system' is all clearly going to screw up and fall apart on their end. One of the middle-run of original Foundation stories has a great emperor character -- not a clone per se and rules alone but definitely stands out some, and is named Cleon of course -- but I can see how some elements already in play will help to shape the portrayal of him down the road.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 October 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

cleon wears his war wound like a crown

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

maybe quite mischievously they've given a credit to Harris for every time his character's statue is in shot on Terminus.

Wait, is there some sort of X-Ray feature on Apple TV+ that I don’t know about or you just mean the opening/closing credits.

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 October 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

just the credits and how many episode he's listed in imdb as being in. I haven't a clue about Apple TV. I get it all from my usenet account.

calzino, Saturday, 9 October 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link

Ah, I see. Anyway now that Jared Harris is off of this show, mostly, I can go back to seeing what he is up to as I continue to catch up on The Expanse.

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 October 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link

unnecessary flashback, and i'm starting to worry that things are so stretched out because they don't have enough story

mookieproof, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

Yeah the first part flashback was little more than addendum -- could have done that in even a couple of minutes I think -- but excellent build of weird tension throughout. Now that we have the big reveal at the end that answers a few questions at least, more to come.

I gotta give Goyer this much, he may (may) have pulled a Lindelof in getting a good creative team together to actually do something that's more watchable than expected. Depends on how they stick the season landing but halfway through this season, I'm good with it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

Season ending but season landing works!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

lol how crap was that imperial ship, just one surface to air shot and it's completely taken out.

calzino, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

"Say Captain there's some big gun pointed our direction."

"Eh whatever."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

I want less action

Maresn3st, Friday, 15 October 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

But I thought everybody wanted a piece of the *is stifled*

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

Fight scene zzzzz, innocents in a settlement being terrorized by soldiers zzzzz, gimme more standing around in very high ceilinged rooms plz

Maresn3st, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

so [redacted] designed his own space coffin and then something happens at the end of this ep. That would be a good way of skipping a few boring decades on Terminus but not so good for his accomplice! Yeah I prefer the long boring bits to the action as well.

calzino, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

Agreed re trying to figure things out on a deserted ship.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

less 'action' is fine (and that fight scene was terrible) but this whole sequence with the offworlders -- which is really pretty straight-forward? -- is now going to leak into a fourth episode

we long ago knew which defenders were righteous and which were lame; let us move on to the next stage already

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link

But the invaders have a plan and as we know in serial TV SF when it's stated there's a plan everything is plotted out to the last desire. Anyway there must be some kind of way out of here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

of course! but let's get to it. i don't need a flashback of anacreon being devastated for 20 minutes to establish motive.

btw am i alone in wishing that hari was not being pronounced 'harry'

i'm sure we can all look forward to my similar complaints whenever dune hits the torrentz and i manage to watch it! <3 <3

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

"Say Captain there's some big gun pointed our direction."

"Eh whatever."


Wasn't the gun what they cloaked earlier in the episode?

groovypanda, Monday, 18 October 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link

Didn't seem clear it was still cloaked by the time it was just 1K away.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link

It probably makes a good point about decadent colonial powers on the wane. Just fly in there expecting an easy rout and then get taken out by one well aimed shot.

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link

Oh it wasn't clear at all,. I just assumed it must be otherwise what was the point of the whole cloaking scene in the first place xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 05:55 (two years ago) link

Getting pretty Game of Thronesy here

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link

gonna name my next cat 'empire'

mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link

A rotating trio of cat

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link

my biological father has had a series of (i think siamese) cats going back decades and named each of them 'mozart'

which is . . . fucking horrific, honestly. but would have certainly made better sense with 'empire'

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

This show needs a cat emperor.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

obviously he should have named the cats duncan idaho

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 October 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

really enjoying the show but the lingering "ok, they've set up several events that are going to happen... maybe in the next episode?" feeling continues because apparently we have more things to go through

mh, Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

Hmm at the ending of this latest one. (I'm...assuming at this point the idea is that Hari set up both the Raven and the Vault so he can chill near Helicon and deliver live updates via the Vault or something. And Gaal like...hibernates in between crises? Guess we'll see!)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link

saddened that the phrase 'what's your ask' will still be in use 10,000 years from now

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

On the other hand, good to know that Touch ID will still work after 700 years

stet, Friday, 5 November 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

oh no my first law of robotics

mookieproof, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:35 (two years ago) link

When “Foundation” Gets the Blockbuster Treatment, Isaac Asimov’s Vision Gets Lost

some points, some misses imo

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link

Two episodes in, I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing, just a lot of exposition and CGI backgrounds.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

Real 300/Zack Snyder's Owl Movie vibe.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing

well this is true to Asimov's vision

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link

haha otm

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

Lol.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:34 (two years ago) link

Burn...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:23 (two years ago) link

Martin Skidmore to thread!

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

idk man

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 November 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Mm. It's definitely heading towards a 'huh' season ender at this rate.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

i haven't been bored (except by the narration), so that's cool. just seems like we're still more or less in the same place we were six episodes ago

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Meantime we got this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5CBWy17y70

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

How does a robot have a religious belief!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link

I like this show, but I think I'm glad I never read the books.

Visually, I keep thinking of what someone could do with an Earthsea adaptation (yeah again, I know), with the right casting finally, and stuff like Ged finding the floating city in the ocean and etc.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link

I'm enjoying this as well. Sometimes some half decent sci-fi shit is just what you need and best avoiding the plethora of hottakes!

calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link


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