xp no shame in that! I, the pollrunner haven't even picked yet, but I think it might be a coin toss between that one and Lost & Safe
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:30 (one month ago) link
Lost and Safe
― J. Sam, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:25 (one month ago) link
High five! Re-listened Way Out yesterday too and was also surprised at how it sounded way better than how I remembered.
Answer is still Lost & Safe for me though. It’s probably my favorite album of the 00’s.
Did they ever explained why they disbanded? Are they in good terms?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:36 (one month ago) link
Btw if you haven’t watched this small documentary of Nick Zammuto, it’s a great insight into his process and lifestyle. He gets life imho:
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:41 (one month ago) link
Wish they had a reissue of Way Out it’s the only LP I don’t own physically and there’s only a couple of really expensive copies on discogs.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:48 (one month ago) link
i believe they are on extremely bad terms
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:00 (one month ago) link
Yeah I think I read that somewhere, sad to hear :/ their solo stuff is great but it doesn’t reach the same heights of what they did together.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:04 (one month ago) link
This is the only article I could find right now but it doesn’t really explain what happened:
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:07 (one month ago) link
Closest clue come from Zammuto who kind of expresses some frustration at him wanting to tour and do new material to make more money and Paul not really responding to the rush of doing so.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:11 (one month ago) link
yeah sounds like paul kind of checked out while nick was under the impression they both were planning to devote a certain amount of time and effort to the group going forward.
still have a memory of hearing thought for food the first time and it just being so unique...like not really in conversation with any other music i was listening to at the time but still having a throughline of melody and structure that made it so easy and addictive to listen to.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:28 (one month ago) link
There was a small trend of “folktronica” going on at the time but noone else was doing stuff as inventive as them. They were looking at it from another angle. They were more into plunderphonics and collage than into just putting beats under acoustic instruments.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:39 (one month ago) link
I wouldn’t put their music as similar to Four Tet or Caribou per example.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:40 (one month ago) link
Not throwing shade at them, I actually love them too but for very different reasons.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:41 (one month ago) link
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:41 (one month ago) link
Maybe and that’s a big maybe the closest comparisons could be The Avalanches or Arthur Russell… not for sound but in how they approach composition.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:49 (one month ago) link
I haven’t really made a deep dive into what their inspirations are - favorite albums, songs, artists… even movies - but that could shed some light on how they approach music.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:53 (one month ago) link
i like all of them but the way out is the one i love
― ciderpress, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:29 (one month ago) link
Currently revisiting their solo work and it’s cool to me how it’s so clear what each of them contributed to the sound of The Books. Paul seems quieter, more thoughtful and less concerned for textures, Zammuto’s solo work is more “childlike” or “crazy scientist” more concerned about having fun experimenting and obsessing about the way things sound. I might be wrong but Paul gives me the impression of being more of a musician and Zammuto more as a producer.
They do sound like they both learned from one another but their solo work makes more evident what their strenghts are and how they complimented each other.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 9 October 2021 07:05 (one month ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 21 October 2021 00:01 (one month ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 22 October 2021 00:01 (one month ago) link
Totally forgot about these guys, will have to check the solo work. I wrote this as a Columbus OH show preview:The BooksThursday @ WexnerThe Books play (and sample) plucked, strummed and bowed instruments, while talking and singing with countless other sounds, also sampled (and played). Waves of fragments move calmly, and, on their first album, The Lemon of Pink, venerable voices provide “helpful” gibberish. The Books like to ricochet through such decay, although the subsequent Lost & Save risks spelling this out a little too plainly, before zigzagging through unexpected insights and comedy. Their new version of Nick Drake’s “Cello Song” even grooves with the glitches of a cheapo CD-R! Which is where I put what the publicist sent me. A lonng time ago.
― dow, Friday, 22 October 2021 03:16 (one month ago) link
sheesh after all those posts I wasn't expecting The Way Out to place last. I was one of the votes sooooo
― frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 03:22 (one month ago) link
Sorry I can’t betray my inconditional love for lost and safe
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 22 October 2021 03:56 (one month ago) link
Yup I didn't make it to Thought for Food in my relisten but ultimately ended up going with Lost and Safe. The Way Out is a little too busy and propulsive; Lemon of Pink felt a shade too subdued and calm coming after the last two in my reverse-chronological relisten, as much as I love it. Lost and Safe has the perfect balance.
Look at it this way: you may fall and break your leg
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:40 (one month ago) link
you know 16 votes seems pretty low for this. I feel like every ILX thread on The Books a decade ago must've had like 4000 posts. hell there's even an entire subforum dedicated to them. guess it's just one of those things that didn't stick, huh
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 04:29 (one week ago) link
there's also just the fact that this website's userbase has dwindled over the years... but yeah, it feels very "of its time." that's not to say its bad music -- it's great music! -- but i guess they've been somewhat forgotten about.
i would've voted Lemon of Pink, but I haven't heard their last two records so didn't think it would be fair for me to vote
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 05:59 (one week ago) link