Slept in a chair with the game on, missed Taylor's HR...I'm far from a Dodger fan, but there's literally no one on the Giants who interests me; I'd rather continue to watch Scherzer and Betts (and maybe Kershaw, not sure).
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 October 2021 04:53 (two years ago) link
300 million will do that
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 October 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link
and Bauer, oh wait
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 October 2021 04:57 (two years ago) link
I'm supposed to root against Scherzer, Kershaw, and Betts because of Trevor Bauer?
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 October 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link
that was uncalled for, Bauer is below the Belt
i have never bought into big spending team buying players with the Dodgers getting both Max and Turner at the deadline. it's the rich getting Richter and that has just never appealed to me
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 October 2021 05:08 (two years ago) link
(ha ha, Belt was a Giants reference)
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 October 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link
I'm against it in theory too, but when the Jays bought their way in at the deadline in 2015, it was the greatest thing in the world. I think you hate it until it's your own team, and then it's "Here's an organization committed to winning."
"Bauer is below the Belt"--but above the Posey.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 October 2021 05:21 (two years ago) link
Kershaw is out for the playoffs though (insert your own joke about Kershaw not being clutch in the playoffs).
Scherzer and Betts are already WS winners, what's the fun in rooting for them again?
This Giants team is like an enhanced version of the 2010-2014 teams, a couple of stars, a lot of smart veteran acquisitions, great starting pitching, a deceptively deep bullpen. Winning 107 games is no fluke. I hope they win.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 7 October 2021 08:29 (two years ago) link
i’m sure the giants would like to increase payroll, but charles johnson’s financial commitments to the most racist politicians and organizations in the country comes first
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 October 2021 08:50 (two years ago) link
what's the fun in rooting for them again?
I like watching them a lot more than the players on San Francisco? And while I realize most of the players are different now, the Giants have won three of the last 10 WS!
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 October 2021 10:36 (two years ago) link
it makes sense, but it hadn't occurred to me that the dodgers and giants have never met in the playoffs before
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 October 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
yeah it's pretty crazy that this is the first time. over/under on number of fans that kill each other during this series?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 October 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link
Seems weird. The wild card has only been around a fraction as long as each team but they’ve both been consistently good franchises over the last 20 or so years.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 October 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
Major surprise too. I tend to think of league/divisional tiebreakers as the postseason, though, in which case you've got Bobby Thomson in '51, and then another three-game tiebreaker in '62 (with the Giants again coming from behind in the 9th inning of the third game). But strictly speaking, first time.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 October 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
it should kinda count. it's like a demi-playoff.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
was there not a rule, early in the (single) wild-card era, that required the wild card to play a non-division opponent in the first round?
could be making this up, or mixing it with a similar rule that (i think) existed in the NFL long ago
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 October 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 8 October 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link
(xpost) No, I think you're right.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
The #SFGiants set their 26-man roster for the 2021 National League Division Series vs. the Los Angeles Dodgers. pic.twitter.com/6GEqlh6GmV— SFGiants (@SFGiants) October 8, 2021
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 October 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
No Jonny Cueto or Jay Jackson. Both teams will not have their first baseman with Brandon Belt being the biggest omission on this roster.
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 October 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
So ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiwA0pCKVhI
― Bee OK, Friday, 8 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 9 October 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link
BEAT LA
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link
nice, surprising results
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link
Posey
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link
that was great
― ✖, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link
Unbelievable double play
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
two errors in four innings? the giants just aren't a very good team
― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
I deserve that
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link
Good game
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
That's why you bring in someone like Kis Bryant
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link
Wow
Kis, lol
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link
Anyone watching with me?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link
A great pitching performance from Logan Webb
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
That was close
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:03 (two years ago) link
Crawford
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link
This team
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link
There is something magical this year
Crawford. There ya go Bee. A pretty nice game 1 so far
― sknybrg, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link
listening to the audio knbr audio feed on the mlb app. horizontal on the couch with jon miller murmuring in my ear
― sknybrg, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link
Sounds like heaven to me
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link
One
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:15 (two years ago) link
What a perfect day
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:17 (two years ago) link
sweet game
― that's not my post, Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link
One more time
😍 pic.twitter.com/ckI2DIuOpP— MLB (@MLB) October 9, 2021
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 October 2021 07:33 (two years ago) link
Walk didn't come back to bit him
― Bee OK, Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link
Fuck
― Bee OK, Sunday, 10 October 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link
Stressed but remarkly calm
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
Longoria
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link
sorry bee!
i don't like the la dodgers either :(
― typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link
oh man that’s a tough way to lose
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link
Ya that was a shite call to end it there.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
scherzer is a maniac lol
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
Remember when Scherzer gave up a grand slam to a relief pitcher a few months ago
― Michael F Gill, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
what an awful way for that to end
― ✖, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
don't even care if he did go around, just give it to the batter
I have died
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:39 (two years ago) link
Well that sucked
― that's not my post, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
My gut reaction
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:42 (two years ago) link
Happy for Scherzer, but the worst series-ending call I've ever seen; I don't think his bat was within a foot of that invisible it's-a-swing line.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:43 (two years ago) link
I'm ok, I wanted the NL West title, everything else would have been gravy
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:47 (two years ago) link
But fuck the umpire, five horrible calls
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link
"Huge props to Logan Webb... he shoved it up our butt twice" - Cody Bellinger pic.twitter.com/ggqQdknBxw— Internet #BlackLivesMatter (@cjzero) October 15, 2021
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:50 (two years ago) link
So, other MVP/ROY teammates: Mays/McCovey Bench/Rose Lynn/Carew Lynn/Ripken Pujols/Trout Pujols/Bellinger
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:52 (two years ago) link
Watching live, I thought he went around, IOW that's called a strike more often than not. But what the hell, don't end a playoff series that way.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:52 (two years ago) link
Ohtani/Trout
― clemenza, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:54 (two years ago) link
I see; misunderstood.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:55 (two years ago) link
Next year, most likely, yes.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 05:01 (two years ago) link
Brutal ending
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Friday, 15 October 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link
season-ending. pic.twitter.com/APRlI0UZK7— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) October 15, 2021
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 October 2021 05:15 (two years ago) link
Someone else will have to take over the thread polls, I'm out
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 05:30 (two years ago) link
check swing twitter is good as hell tonight
sorry bee! horrible call
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 15 October 2021 06:21 (two years ago) link
#Justice4Wilmer
― buzza, Friday, 15 October 2021 07:09 (two years ago) link
this was on too late for me but it looks like it was fucking epic?? game of the year?
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 October 2021 07:55 (two years ago) link
oh no i just saw the last strike
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 October 2021 07:59 (two years ago) link
it wasn't a great call but it's not like he had runners in scoring position or something
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 October 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link
yeah imo much worse was that Kris Bryant AB w/ one on and no one out. he took 5 straight pitches, all well out of the zone, but the ump called two of them strikes anyway, and he struck out on the next pitch
― frogbs, Friday, 15 October 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
the fix was in
― brimstead, Friday, 15 October 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link
Doesn't really matter that they were unlikely to win, you can't end the series that way
― ✖, Friday, 15 October 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
Comparison between 2 morales calls https://streamable.com/q97s2c
Lol
― ✖, Friday, 15 October 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link
christ.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
Umpire: Doug EddingsFinal: Giants 1, Dodgers 2#ResilientSF // #Dodgers#SFvsLAD // #LADvsSF pic.twitter.com/MX0tUmJwzs— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) October 15, 2021
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 October 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link
since Bee is, I assume, prostrate on his floor for the foreseeable future; i went to start a poll for the NLCS, but had no idea how to set the time to the first pitch?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
that isn’t bad, but the two worst calls coming in the same at-bat is rough
xp you can’t iirc, it’ll be at 8pm EDT (midnight GMT of the selected date) no matter what
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 October 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link
the sox 'stros one ends in 7 hours somehow tho!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
he's used his weird giants voodoo magic on the poll times!!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link
Ditto. Don Denkinger's famous blown call didn't end a series--it didn't even end Game 6.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 October 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
Posnanski has a long post on last night's game:
Wilmer Flores didn’t swing. He didn’t come close to swinging. It was a blown call.
And that was a crummy way to end a brilliant game.
It’s a weird blown call because I think we’d all agree it probably didn’t make a difference. Scherzer still would have had Flores down 1-2 in the count, and Flores had gone one-for-11 in the series, and he’d never gotten a hit in 16 at-bats against Scherzer, and so the inevitable was still inevitable.
Still, there was something about that call that summed up this whole series and maybe even these whole playoffs. The Giants and the Dodgers should not have been playing a five-game series in early October. This whole thing was upside down, These are two of the best teams of the last decade, and they deserved — we deserved — a seven-game World Series to cherish forever.
Alas, it wasn’t meant to be. Instead, the Dodgers go on, and the Giants will always be left wondering what miracles might have occurred had they been given their final strike.
― clemenza, Friday, 15 October 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
thanks for taking over, yes i'm over baseball for now. anyways, just set it to close on Sunday and it will close at 5 PM Pacific on Saturday Night.
― Bee OK, Friday, 15 October 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
Still thinking about that last call...It's not something a manager can appeal, okay. But I thought the umpires, for anything that happens, have the option of getting together and conferring. Couldn't they ask to look at videotape themselves? Going back to that Denkinger call in 1985, the inning--the 9th--started with the bases empty, the Cardinals up 1-0 in the game and up 3-2 in the series. After Denkinger's missed call, the Royals have a man on first, but the Cardinals are still up 1-0 in the game and 3-2 in the series. And that call is infamous. This one ended the series.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link
i'm in the "that's baseball" camp i think
― typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
it’s just not feasible to go to the video for every borderline strike call. that this one ended a series is unfortunate, but so it goes
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
and unlike the denkinger play, a check-swing is a judgment call
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
I understand both of you, but in all honesty, a safe/out play at first seems no more or no less a judgement call to me than a checked swing--or at least in this case, where the bat is so clearly not even close to where you'd call a strike. Anyway, I won't mention it again. I do feel for Giants fans, though; I think they got screwed worse than 2003 Cubs fans or 1996 Orioles fans.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
Okay, one last comment. What I think:
Managers obviously should not be allowed to appeal ball/strike calls.Managers should not be allowed to appeal checked-swing calls.Umpires should not be allowed to review ball/strike calls.
But: umpires should be allowed to review checked-swing calls, if someone on the crew feels one is needed. 99% of them would still not warrant a review--they would, indeed, fall under the judgement-call umbrella, or the game-situation wouldn't warrant doing so. But this is a rare and extreme case, and I think a review should have been in order.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 October 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
the ump that made the call had the only angle from which to do so — no other ump on the field would ever question it. if you want the ump in the review room in NYC to be proactive, that’s feasible but also raises a ton of other issues
and just as a human nature thing, i doubt that umpires will be too interested in overruling coworkers who didn’t ask for help
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link