Rolling US Economy Into The Shitbin Thread

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the 35th Director of the United States Mint loves coins!

Got a very nice email and follow-up from former Mint Director @PhilipNDiehl, which I reproduce here with his permission, that provides useful context on the underlying legislative intent behind 31 USC 5112(k) and reinforces the case for #MintTheCoin. pic.twitter.com/FGIhSgtaoQ

— Rohan Grey (@rohangrey) October 6, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 7 October 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link

ha i don't really understand all the context of this but it is super refreshing and pleasing to see a bureaucrat with a passion for their particular thing! have to assume this guy was a major numismatist (i admit i looked it up) before getting into it as a career

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 8 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

😘

Private quits rate πŸš€ pic.twitter.com/sJb2ZrvAX9

— Conor Sen (@conorsen) October 12, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

pardon the dumb Q but what are "quits"?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

people quitting their job

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

Jennifer Booth quit her information technology job at a national retailer in August, after months of working as many as 90 hours a week during the pandemic to help the company revamp its e-commerce system.

i mean 90 hrs a week is insane and borderline illegal in a lot of countries so it’s β€œgood” that people are fed up but i’m not sure this is a story about progress

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

2 of my friends in low-level positions put their two weeks notice in on friday so SSS but yeah quit them jobs bros!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

I quit a couple months ago myself. BS got made a supervisor over 5 people with 3 open positions in other states with no title and no raise - still having to do all had in my regular job. IT staff was down to 21 from 34 and ticket count went from like maybe a total for everyone of maybe 100 or so a day to pretty much hundreds open at all times. Literally some days I was having to update 100+ tickets in a day as there was so many device return tasks from the constant churn of people entering and exiting posts.

Had many days I would get up at 5am to get to work at 7am work 9-10 hours then have to go home and do BS billing work until like 11pm or midnight then wake up and do it again. Coup de grace was stupid offshore SCCM team had not tested shit for over a year and broke literally over 100+ devices that had never gotten updated to w10 on top of the mess. I thought I was going to have a breakdown by the end. Going through that last year at work pretty much had me wishing the f'ing sun would go supernova and wipe this grease stain of a planet out of the heavens. I'm a bit better now but have been busy as heck at home doing all the crap I never had time to do for the past year.

earlnash, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

holy shit, i feel like absolute dogshit when i work more than 6 hours a day lol

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

unless i'm doing outdoor work, then i have no problem going for longer, because there's always some time to "rest" and take a nice long toke

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

but office jobs? fuck, i think the longest i ever worked at an office-type job was the week i pulled 37 hours, and that was because my manager had the flu. most weeks in my life i've managed to do about 32 or so. any more is absolute bullshit afaic, a job can go fuck itself.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link

yeah i have no idea how people do more than 40 hours in an office job, i would just completely fall apart

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

are people in low-level jobs able to quit because of pandemic money?

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

No just stopped buying lattes

(β€’Μͺ●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link

i honestly don't know, sorry i don't pay much attention to this stuff.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

i think it's great if workers have leverage but .... it kinda seems like workers don't really have leverage you know?

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

The only workers I know with appreciable leverage are those with highly specialized technical skills/knowledge in a rapidly expanding job category. Much rarer is the worker with skills/knowledge that is exclusive to their current position in a company, making them effectively irreplaceable without their consenting to train their replacement.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link

when i had an office job i was in the office 40 hours a week but only really working for 20-30 tops

flopson, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link

I can’t speak to most industries but it’s really hard to find a paralegal right now and the ones that interview certainly seem to believe they have leverage and options.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

Doing tax prep, I see what my clients made last year on Unemployment, and I was a bit envious tbh

sarahell, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link

I have to assume the paralegal thing is partly women with kids dropping out of the workforce due to childcare impossibilities (also couldn't find an after school babysitter btw, even offering what everyone told us was "above market"). In past interview cycles, 80-90% of our candidates have been women who either outright mentioned kids or were in the age range of someone who might have kids.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link

god is dead pic.twitter.com/JuBFlGk9Iz

— π’₯π‘œπ‘’π“, 𝒢 𝒻𝓇𝒾𝑒𝓃𝒹 (@joeljohnson) October 24, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link

wow. and i thought it was bad when the chicken fingers shortage happened!

Nhex, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link

At a casino buffet that could lead to riots.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

Monthly job growth has averaged 561,000 jobs a month in 2021. It's 612,000 a month since March. The average for June-July was 1.026 million jobs a month.

Big upside revisions, never really covered, are part of why you aren't aware of this, but also because it's off narrative. https://t.co/4xjUZGVW8w

— Mike Konczal (@rortybomb) October 26, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link

Interesting. I probably understand less about economics than I do about epidemiology, but it does seem like the economy doing relatively well, or at least recovering pretty quickly, is what's causing at least as much of the bad stuff as good. The Great Resignation is real, but some people are taking advantage of it to get better or better paying jobs, and bigger paychecks leads to inflation. At the same time, people are spending more, too, which post ("post") pandemic is putting strains on supply and production, which is also causing prices to go up.

I find the elusive PS5 a pretty fascinating example. We get a next generation video game console launched in the middle of a pandemic, at a time of historic instability, at a pretty high price point, in the midst of a chip shortage, etc.. And yet, it continues to sell and sell out, and in fact is selling more than other consoles, iirc. So it's an illustrative conflation of lots of different economic concerns, supply and demand, discretionary spending, consumerism, supply chain issues, and all sorts of stuff that emphasizes the complexity of a global market that might be doing better than it seems.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

I’m a paralegal. If you’re hiring in the LA area I will gladly accept a mountain of money in exchange for my labor.

Legal market been white hot recently. If I don’t get a bonus or a raise this new year I’m going to be looking around. Mostly because I had to buy a new car recently and I could use the money. =|

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/10/job-seeking-advice-hiring-trend-tight-economy.html

My heart weeps for the hiring managers being ghosted left and right by prospective employees. It's all very
https://i.imgur.com/Rpq3yhp.jpeg

(a picture of a defecating pig) (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 October 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I’ve watched this 10 times and it somehow gets better each time. #fintok #stocktok pic.twitter.com/yQ0Ps0ujzF

— TikTok Investors (@TikTokInvestors) August 31, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 29 November 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

Those dudes are the best, I forgot all about their bits.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 November 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Hmm:

We took a look at the most recent earnings statements and earnings calls of the big meat processing companies, and here's what we found: they are raising prices far more than any cost increases they're facing, resulting in skyrocketing profit margins.https://t.co/NVboVeAvWT

— Bharat Ramamurti (@BharatRamamurti) December 10, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

The media's panic stories about inflation have given every corporation a green light to raise prices as fast as possible.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

tin foil hat time but I feel like there’s probably a riff on a capital strike afoot. I got this sense when Obama was elected and Wall Street ghouls would parade through cable news whining about β€œuncertainty” well after their balls had been powdered by public funds and constant reassurance (rhetorically and policy-wise) from the admin

caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link

iirc this spiel went on for years after the crash where they were made beyond Whole

caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

β€œFascism should rightly be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.”

earlnash, Sunday, 12 December 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this guy has the right idea on inflation imo

https://www.tiktok.com/@meals_by_cug/video/7040146842071518511?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 7 January 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link

that guy otmfm

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Saturday, 8 January 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link

cug is a lot of fun

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 January 2022 06:32 (two years ago) link

🧐 pic.twitter.com/XcZsNkiZxP

— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) January 7, 2022

rob, Saturday, 8 January 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link

Maybe not the right thread for that really. Do we have a thread about the ontology of "the economy"?

rob, Saturday, 8 January 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link

"rolling us economy is a shitbin thread"

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 8 January 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

i've been reading Kate Soper's "Post Growth Living" and have been thinking about this kind of thing a lot.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 January 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link

Feels like we’re rolling into the shitbin again!

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 14 January 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link

that's just the way it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adw772km7PQ

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 January 2022 07:02 (two years ago) link

Stonks

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 24 January 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

lol

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 24 January 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link

https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-reserve-inflaton-everything-bubble-economy-stock-market-debt-2022-1

The scary contours of what's coming was summed up well by a former Federal Reserve official Thomas Hoenig, who voted against the Fed's easy money policies before retiring in 2011. Back in 2016, Hoenig was warning about the very large and long-term risks that the Fed was piling up through zero-percent rates and quantitative easing.

"You had seven years of basically zero-interest rates. Now, what happens in an economic system over seven years? The entire market system develops a new equilibrium β€” around a zero rate," Hoenig told me in 2016. "An entire economic system around a zero rate. Not only in the US, but globally. It's massive. Now, think of the adjustment process to a new equilibrium at a higher rate. Do you think it's costless? Do you think that no one will suffer? Do you think there won't be winners and losers? No way."

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 24 January 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

Thomas Hoenig of the Mercatus Center. Koch funded, "engaged in campaigns involving deregulation, especially environmental deregulation. According to The Guardian in 2010, it "now fills the role once played by the economics department at Chicago University as the originator of extreme neoliberal ideas.""

bulb after bulb, Monday, 24 January 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

im not co-signing his life work to be clear! its just grist for the shitbin mill

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 24 January 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link


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