WHOCHURCH: The Chris Chibnall era

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Maybe I'm conflating it with the Torchwood/ABBA musical.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link

Apparently all the money went on Lydia West, which is why you can't place a bet on her any more. The words "leaked email" have been thrown around.

Entirely coincidentally, and I'm sure not a harbinger of anything, all the official Who social media went offline about two hours ago.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Friday, 8 October 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

there is now a phone number to call, ending in 3110 (ie Halloween TX), with a recorded message of Jodie saying "if you're hearing this, enemies from across the universe have blah blah etc."

fake-deleting all the social media channels means that the latest blu-ray trailer was only on youtube for a few hours. great work, Chris.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 9 October 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Five of the six episodes in the soon-come Doctor Who: Flux miniseries are by Chibnall solo, ep 4 is an Alderton co-write.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 06:54 (two years ago) link

Fuck

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 October 2021 11:52 (two years ago) link

Chibnall, the lame duck era. Deep breath and let's get over with it

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 October 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link

I saw someone saying the BBC announcing Chibs leaving was a fuck you to everyone who worked on this season. I see it as the BBC knowing it'll be shit and giving fans some positive news to tide them by.

adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 14 October 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

Don't hold your breath too long, there's still eleven months (three episodes) of Chibs after this season ends!

At least he's taken on feedback, after Timeless Child, that having the characters stand still and recite wikipedia lists is not dramatically compelling:

The Flux is Coming... pic.twitter.com/UmvY5rXJbW

— Doctor Who: Flux (@bbcdoctorwho) October 9, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

she’s not looking at the camera

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 October 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

lol flux: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flux

Leee Tigre (Leee), Thursday, 14 October 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link

she’s not looking at the camera

at least he's consistent

lol flux

at least he's consistent

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 15 October 2021 06:36 (two years ago) link

i've run out of flux to give

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 15 October 2021 07:15 (two years ago) link

at least he's consistent

oh COME ON

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVkay_8DNaX/

Even Moffat’s tossed-off Instagram dad jokes are more creative and funny than the series proper. That said obviously like a sucker I am looking forward to the new one on Saturday.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 28 October 2021 10:49 (two years ago) link

That was largely a trailer for the whole series, wasn't it? Except a trailer is supposed to make you want to watch it.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

do i bother?

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

First time in human history I have not been even a little bit excited about the new series, and forgot it was on today. Will watch, because I’ve seen every other existing episode of this damn thing and the fallacy of sunk costs, etc, but really am just waiting for Chibnall to fuck off.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 31 October 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

found a stream of bbc america, it's playing the one with the irish cop from last season, and wow those bits are bad once you know what they're supposed to mean

adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 31 October 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

Man, this is his usual first-draft, it'll do stuff still, isn't it? Like, 30 seconds of work would make stuff make sense (ie the dog aliens could be the future evolved descendants of dogs (the same way Who already has the same with cats), which is why they feel an ancestral debt to rescue the species that uplifted them or whatever ), but no, it's just chuck half-arsed stuff into the plot until you've filled 50 minutes.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 1 November 2021 08:17 (two years ago) link

ok gonna go with Not Bothering

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Monday, 1 November 2021 08:20 (two years ago) link

It's 5 (6?) Episode 1s smushed into one TV show. All the infodumps are about the 'important' ep 1, the rest are more or less trailers for the stories in the rest of the season. No indication at all they're linked by anything other than the way Chinballs has presented them.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Monday, 1 November 2021 09:42 (two years ago) link

DOCTOR: there's something weird in the space-time continuum, why are we here?
LADY: Hello, Doctor and Yaz. I come from your future, where we have fought together against the giant threat that is coming. I would like to warn you of it.
DOCTOR: uh right m8,

https://media1.giphy.com/media/XB43a39jYFT6JxjVtR/giphy.gif

at least he's consistent

oh COME ON

welcome to Commander Inston-Vee Vinder of Kasto-Winfer-Foxfell

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 1 November 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

It was essentially shit but there were still things I liked about it, enough for me to not regret having watched it.

Course you could argue that'd be a valid review of like 80% of all the Doctor Who I've ever watched.

JimD, Monday, 1 November 2021 11:39 (two years ago) link

more first draft garbage

our new companion. our first details: thinks liverpool has the best history in the world; no job but has "a trade"; single in his 50s and embarrassed to ask crush on a date; works at food bank; believes in luck; doesn't have food but has a van and a house; doesn't like adult trick or treater; alien species racist

no mention that the doctor caused the extinction of humanity last season. guess that doesn't matter -- she's nice!

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 1 November 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

You forgot "chompers to rival Rob Beckett"

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 1 November 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

A cultural question. Do Brits give out Halloween candy in bags rolled up like a tootsie pop? At first I thought he was giving those people drugs.

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 1 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

At first I thought he was giving those people drugs.

wow racist

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-18-2018/3xjI6q.gif

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 1 November 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

You forgot "chompers to rival Rob Beckett"

I was completely obsessed with the Rylanesque whiteness of his teeth. They need a whole backstory of how he afforded them then fell down on his luck to the point where he can afford replica football shirts but no food.

ailsa, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link

I forgot to mention that while he is poor and believes in luck, HE DOES NOT PLAY THE LOTTERY

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

I'm old and my hearing's shite but I couldn't hear almost any of Jodie Whitaker's dialogue - too low in the mix, rushed and garbled.

Everyone above is OTM but I found it marginally more bearable than usual - a few interesting story threads, and the knowledge that Chibnall only has six more episodes left, probably helped.

Otherwise the usual poverty of imagination and wit but maybe not as bad as last time. The repetition of catchphrases ("bigger on the inside", "don't blink") felt particularly desperate and [PUT BETTER DIALOGUE HERE LATER]. The actor who plays Yaz seems sharper and more interesting than she has in the past, I'm sure Chibnall will find a way to waste that.

Just a guess but Swarm is the Master, surely? Chibnall loves his Baker-era continuity porn and the makeup seems like an obvs reference to the Peter Pratt version

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

The repetition of catchphrases ("bigger on the inside", "don't blink") felt particularly desperate

Guessing Chibnall's stage direction includes saying those phrases with ICONIC reverence.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link

Just a guess but Swarm is the Master, surely? Chibnall loves his Baker-era continuity porn and the makeup seems like an obvs reference to the Peter Pratt version

Poundland Eldrad I thought.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

the knowledge that Chibnall only has six more episodes left

eight episodes across 13 months

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

Ha, I guess I'll amend that to "he is definitely leaving unless he pulls a Jay Leno" is enough reassurance

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

the brand is never letting him near doctor who again

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

Chinballs has revealed his inspiration for the Karvanista. He got the idea when...

he owned a dog.

I actually wish that was made up.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8N7Food.png

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 02:44 (two years ago) link

What a genius.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 09:36 (two years ago) link

I... liked this? A lot?

what happened, I'm confused

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

It was very much "six-year-old creates story using every toy in the toybox" but I was into it

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I thought it was fun too, for similar reasons. Plus the eunuch from Game of Thrones turns out to be quite charismatic when he's allowed to speak in his own accent. 13 is still dulllll though.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

Did hope we might have her getting a chance to shine with better material. Shame hope this doesn't haunt the rest of her career. Or totally get rid of the idea of a female doctor just cos it was done so badly by one programme runner.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

I thought she was a lot more coherent in this one; in a previous story I wouldn't have been surprised to see her say "no you see the Flux is actually good, this is all part of the process of the universe renewing itself *chucks Yaz into the vaporizing maelstrom*"

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

she did try to stop the Flux by blasting it with a special kind of energy that turns you into a god tbf

(without bothering to find out what the Flux even is)




six-year-old creates story

https://i.imgur.com/hVfzJoK.jpg

(cf. We’ve already seen that Chibnall, despite living on one, has no idea how large planets are, but here he’s blowing out his misapprehension of them pretty impressively. and Again, the writers this series seem not to know what words for big things -- billions, galaxies, etc -- actually mean.)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

Yeah. Seven billion spaceships turning up at once! Trying to think about the practicalities of that and how their civilisation could actually function has made my head hurt a bit.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

for comparison: the observable universe, based on the speed of light, is about 93 billion light years in diameter. this Sontaran ship is 645x further away than the edge of the known universe.

travelling at the speed of light, it would take (licks pencil, squints) ...thirty trillion years to arrive at the scene of the action next episode. which is 2,307x longer than the universe is currently estimated to have existed.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

It's true that up until now, the one thing that the time travel show starring an alien with two hearts always got right was the math

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

just sit quietly and watch your space stories, poindexters

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

you can't change distances! not one line!

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

Fantasy novels with inconsistent travel durations must drive you guys bonkers too.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link


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