modest mouse also a particularly notable absence by that standard
And not a single mention of The Dismemberment Plan. Got to talk about Puff Daddy instead.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
We canceled Pitchfork Music Festival in Chicago due to the coronavirus in 2020, and then saw it sell out upon its return last month—a sign that a genre-spanning, inclusive lineup (including three female headliners for the first time in our history) is what music fans actually want.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
Asterisks within html italicized text = bold? Formatting. I give up.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
click "Show Formatting Help", just below 'submit post" button
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
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lol at me
it's really quite simple,
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― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link
I am relatively surprised to see Tortoise pop up on that list. Always seem like one of those bands were a big deal at the time, that people would rather forget about.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
i'm more than fine with both parts of this
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
i mean it makes zero sense considering their engagement with both those acts but still! fine with it!
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
tortoise rules
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
Our staffers will also revisit album scores from the archives that they’d like to quibble with, an acknowledgment of the reality that opinions and cultural contexts shift between writers, editors, and audiences with the passing of time.
oh boy
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Thanks for trying KM, roffle. I thought I mostly had a grip on the formatting but clearly I need a refresher, I will carefully peruse the guidelines forthwith.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
for real though, just click the "show formatting help" link at the bottom, haha
i was trying to copy and paste the particulars of it but failed
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
hope they have a roundtable on whether Travistan is still a 0.0
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
revisiting scores and reviews is a wonderful idea. but i hope they properly archive (and reference) the originals
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
maybe they'll replace the graphic they used for their Partie Traumatic review with a different graphic!
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
I haven't looked yet. How close are 12 Rods to #1?
― Evan, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
important to pitchfork
jazmine sullivan is also on the list even tho they plainly ignored her work until well after reality show, the first record they acknowledged, came out. the world of rock/'pop' criticism had to basically be begged by dev hynes (i think?) to even listen to that album, + still doesn't really acknowledge that plenty of the music she put out prior to their starting to care is just as essential
― dyl, Monday, 4 October 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
I don't really care about this list, but it seems clear they're using it to redefine themselves, same as they've been doing with the retroactive Sunday reviews (many of which are the source of the pullquotes for individual artist entries, as opposed to contemporaneous write-ups, which is telling).
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
It's kind of odd to be celebrating a 25th anniversary while asking people to forget the first 10 years or so
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
Well, some of those artists are there. TBH, I think they could have leaned even harder into later stuff. I don't really think of Boredoms and YLT as acts "who released all – or at least the bulk of – their defining work within the last 25 years," but seems they were sort of grandfathered in based on a few respected late-'90s releases.
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
(or the opposite of "grandfathered" – grandchilded?)
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
justice for 12 rods
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
i don't really understand this list because i would insist trail of dead be included
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
the arc of the source tags -> worlds apart reviews/scores so perfectly crystallizes early pfork for me, idk, i guess they wanted to write about a bunch of artists they actually liked tho
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
nothing but some scant news articles before 2019 for Aaliyah one of the most important artists of the last 25 years of Pitchfork
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/artists/10601-aaliyah/
how many of the 200 artists will have text from this feature or placement onto the feature itself spammed into their wikipedia articles immediately
― dyl, Monday, 4 October 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
50 Cent, huh?
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
they have covered him since GRODT but his album reviews average out to 5.3
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 4, 2021 3:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah but the RIYL: Aaliyah reviews have gone back at least ten years
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 4 October 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
trail of dead are not on this list? bad list.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 06:38 (two years ago) link
I'm all for revisionism and trying to pass personal for authoritative and authoritative for personalThat's still a pretty big schism between the icons and the rest. When did indie die again ?Otherwise I can't comment, I've never really known what albums I was listening to because P4K had endorsed them and where I was showing fabulous independence of taste. I can imagine the "serpent-eating-its-tail" problem for current P4K staff.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link
I was initially annoyed by the idea of an alphabetical list of "important artists" with no organizing principle other than existing over the last 25 years, however, if I was 14 or 15, this would a pretty solid roadmap for exploring popular music since the 90s. I don't mind the revisionism at all and think it would be pretty silly if this was just a summary of what critics who wrote for pitchfork 20 years ago thought was good then, but maybe that's not what you all are suggesting?
― Indexed, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
i think i was confused earlier bc this is just a list of important artists and has little if anything to do with pfork's coverage of them
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
lol deej will be happy with some Chief Keef retroactive justice!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
The Grimes downgrade is lol, but the Big Boi one is not tho.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
It’s tied in with p4k’s 25th anniversary but has little to do with the kind of music coverage that made them rise to prominence.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
Aww. I was really hoping for a downgrade of the score for Tobias Jesso Jr's Goon. That or Chance's Coloring Book.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
Chairlift: Moth (2016)7.6 → 8.5
honestly unsure what score i originally pitched for this record, but fun to see, especially given how many ppl here fucking hate it
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
the grimes downgrade is stupid af but i guess she deserves it
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link
my version of this exercise:
Poppy: I Disagree (2020)6.5 → 10
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
I did not expect Chairlift to mean that much to them.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
these score revisions seem more like each writer's opinion than an official decree from on high about a record's quality
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
They do seem to follow CW in most cases though
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
It’s cool to like Prince now, and this was arguably not the case in 2004. cough
― juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link
morrisd
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
lol i still love that foxygen album. they got it right the first time
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
also who the hell that doesn't like that record is still thinking about it in 2021