Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

that's usually how he sounds! he was similarly avuncular in Source Code

So apparently this season of What If..? was supposed to be 10 episodes long but ended up 9 because Covid and the missing episode would have explained how Gamora turns up in the finale

Yeah, definitely seemed from context that would've been an entire extra episode. Also, they ended up referencing almost every other episode in S1, except maybe the "Who Killed the Avengers?" ep - though maybe the Loki from that one showed up for a second?

Liked they all picked up after the respective ends of their episodes, like Thor fighting Ultron, Killmonger about to be apprehended, etc.

Funny how this was a better adaptation of the Age of Ultron series than the movie was (which only took the title m/l)

And - bittersweet, we got way more Chadwick Boseman in this series than I was expecting.

https://gizmodo.com/report-wandavisions-kathryn-hahn-is-getting-her-own-ag-1847817612

Really enjoyed that finale and how all the storylines dovetailed together - it was easily the best of the Disney+ finales so far. I don't watch many cartoons, but it seemed like the action sequences were really well designed and edited - a lot more involving and easy-to-follow than the movie fights.

There was a kind of joyful glibness (but with stakes!) that reminded me of Buffy, but minus the smarm

Yeah, definitely seemed from context that would've been an entire extra episode.

I wouldn't have minded seeing it, but on the other hand if they had to cut one I'm not surprised that they cut "What if this character did the thing that they'd explicitly been trying to do from their first appearance?"

I like that the last coda matched the first episode, Hayley Atwell was a gift to this show - as of course was Chris Hemsworth.

The missing episode is going to be part of Season 2 now and is set on Sakaar and will play as a comedy (like the Thor one)

That finale was good, I enjoyed it and while I know some get put off by the interconnectedness of the MCU, I do like the slow build to that without detracting from enjoying them as standalone episodes.

In other news, I <3 Kathryn Hahn and Agatha, but I'm not ready to start seeing spin-offs of spin-offs now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/q4xaj6/the_infinity_saga_50_hour_fanedit_final_update/

We got Warlock

As you guys know I often strike down false rumors, so… um…

Welcome to the Guardians family, Will Poulter. He’s an amazing actor and wonderful guy. See you in a couple weeks. #AdamWarlock #GotGVol3 https://t.co/RaNeGDIC0E

— James Gunn (@JamesGunn) October 11, 2021

Tickets for Eternals also on sale

I decided yesterday that we'll have true progress when the hero of color can take down a white villain single handedly and not have to fight a blobmonster or a villain of similar color at the end of a movie

New Hawkeye trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyXUaNhqpqE

It's me, the dude who is so unbelievably hyped for this

Me too. That looks super-fun.

have nothing but indifference/contempt for the mcu but i will see the hawkguy thing

Brad, have you ever read the Fraction/Aja Hawkeye run? It is, with no exaggeration, one of my favorite comic book storylines ever and is the only thing I've ever read that has made me care about Hawkeye as a character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN8Mh9M7lmk

It’s cool how they even use the lettering from the series (for the logo, etc.)

Also cool that Linda Cardellini is in the cast

(The “blaring Xmas music over chaos” thing still feels like a hella cliche to me, but I know it’s just a trailer)

it looks great

Brad, have you ever read the Fraction/Aja Hawkeye run? It is, with no exaggeration, one of my favorite comic book storylines ever and is the only thing I've ever read that has made me care about Hawkeye as a character.

― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:32 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i have and because of it i would do literally anything for matt fraction

including watching an mcu movie clearly referencing the run he wrote

series*

sorry i keep assuming it’s a movie

Also cool that Linda Cardellini is in the cast

Same, but I’m a little worried it’s only going to be archival footage from Endgame, since it also lists Ava Russo as Clint’s daughter and, afaict, that’s pretty much the only acting she’s done. But, hey, would also love to be surprised with more screen time for Cardellini and happy she’s getting a check from this either way.

I just grabbed the collected Hawkeye volume 1 via my public library's book-readin' app. I never really cared about the character at all, and have a strong aversion to Jeremy Renner for some reason but I'm intrigued.

Two weeks ago I went over the bars on my bike and broke two ribs; I watched Black Widow last week, and my injury made me realize the ridiculousness of people falling off buildings and hitting every awning on the way down or getting hit by cars and just walking away. So I kind of love that Hawkeye ends up hospitalized on the third page.

A big fat trade of the complete Fraction run is coming out in a couple weeks, fyi y'all.

I think I might be missing one early issue? Regardless, I will buy this

My Fraction Hawkeye run (and my Saga run!) was just destroyed in a flood so I will also buy that!

(Also my 1963 run - meh)

oh man, that sucks Chuck

OL, where did you see the announcement re: the Hawkeye trade? All I am turning up is the old omnibus.

Naturally there doesn't seem to be any official announcement on Marvel's own site, but all of the online booksellers have it up for preorder. It's subtitled 'The Saga of Barton and Bishop' (and is presumably just a softcover repackaging of the omnibus).

its weird - a lot of my usual sellers don't have it, but others do. hope this doesn't mean it got delayed or something
also gonna go for the Aja direct market cover over the Ross. Ross' cover isn't bad but I generally prefer the interior artist's cover for collections

Nhex, where are you seeing the Aja cover version?

There's one here, but it's not on Amazon.

https://www.midtowncomics.com/product/2027460

Not Alex Ross fan, although his Immortal Hulk covers have been terrific. His Hawkeye cover is kinda dull, dorky and out-of-character for the contents, though. Weird choice - feels like the Aja cover would be a lot more attractive for a new audience.

Marvel is doing a lot more DM-exclusive covers these days, I notice. Glad I ordered when it was first solicited, I guess.

I think the Ross cover is kind of cool (though it doesn't fit the material), and Aja's cover(s) kinda boring (tho his art in the book itself is great).

I like both a lot but I just preordered the Aja cover

MCU slate sliding.

2022 delays are
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness – Delayed from March 25, 2022 to May 6, 2022
Thor: Love and Thunder - Delayed from May 6, 2022 to July 8, 2022
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Delayed from July 8, 2022 to November 11, 2022

I guess "Eternals" just had its premiere, and the usual hyperbolic quotes from randos are making the rounds. "Your MIND will be BLOWN AWAY! There will only be TWO types of Eternals audiences, those who think it is AWESOME and those that KNOW it is." Etc. But I did see more than one comparison to the DC movies ... as a good thing. So ... whatevs.

I mean, if the comparison is "successfully evokes the weight and gravitas aimed for by the DC movies that the latter fail to consistently achieve" I don't see why that would be a de facto bad comparison

They better have that Kirby Krackle

The Eternals clip that went around Twitter the other day (fighting on a beach) looked like crap.

This is cute

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CVOqQXOtIvo

My friend walked in on the beachside fight scene trailer and went ' are they making another power rangers movie', lol, it does look kinda terrible, would like it to carry some weight and drama but it also could be a hammy, corny mess

didnt realise that Eternals was/is out already

just came across shirley li's review from the Atlantic, she liked it overall, 'soulful & refreshing'
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/10/chloe-zhao-eternals-marvel-review/620460/

it is out next month

Another Hawkeye trailer? Why sure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP3gEEYaf0